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[jamesajones5]

I tried jump jetting over a tall vine/branch at 2303.9 2130.6 130.4 and got stuck. I was in a VND-1AA with 5jj

[Aiden Skye]

Really like the atmosphere on this map. The lighting and fullness would be nice to see on some other older maps. Combat wise haven't really played it enough to make a decent assessment of that aspect of the map, but from a visual / immerse viewpoint ++A!
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[Thorqemada]

Very small map...

[kingalbertII]

one of the insect carcasses has spots that do not block clan lrms

[Ashvins]

IL MECHWARRIOR, on 18 November 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

now i noticed a huuuuuge tactical error


the team that spawns in B6 has an abnormous advantage: there are 2 poits to access higher areas without jj: one in c4 d4 and the other in c4 b4:


THESE PLACES ARE ONLY AVAILABLE TO THE TEAM THAT SPAWNS IN B6, huge disadvantage for the others

th team that spawn in e2 only has the d2 Platform, and it is useless since there is not lrm cover

This is the bigest problem with this map. I'm sure once you look at the W/L ratio on the map you will find the team which has the direct access (southern I belive) wins the majority of the time.

Granted IMO people need to be a little more flexiable in their thinking on this map, I've pulled off a win starting in the north by going to the water and flanking those hill from behind but thats only once when starting in the north.

[Eric Generic]

It's pretty. It's got a lot of different levels to play on. The canopy has no affect on lrm target aquisition whatsoever and only hurts people who use skill based weapons.

[Zamiake]

Can you please Redo the C4 tile and make some major nerfs to the stairs on that hill by putting higher steps and tree trunks. Im tired of ENTIRE times including assualts standing up there and camping wait for people to come up and then team Alpha strike the poor dumb sobs that ALWAYS walk in one at a time and die there. Its the only tactic ive seen EVER used on that map and its a load of crap.

Winning a match should never be decided on what side of the map your on. The side that takes C4 tile first always wins because of camping the tile/ hill

[Uncleclint]

Now that i´ve played this map several times (can´t say exactly how often, cause for some reason this map won´t show up in my stats...) i think i can give a few + and -
Let´s start with the criticism:
- too small
- too much fog / need to use heat vision all the time
- too many small roots, trees and stuff that gets you stuck
- too one-sided (the team that has the stairs to the middle hill on their side is most likely to make a victory out of that position)
- some stuff covers you from this weapon but not from that weapon and you never know where you can shoot through and where you can´t, all in all very confusing
- again too small, because it´s too frickin´ small

+ looks really nice
+ yes i like the graphics


So thats a total of 2:6 for me. I think this map needs a lot of rework, maybe over time some other strategy than rush up the central hill or get shot while trying to will evolve but until then this is the map that i would give the lowest rating of all so far. I even like river city night a lot more than this one... and the terrible therma too

[Manafest Chaos]

perhaps this is slightly off topic, but I don't have any postings for the new map under profile>map stats

[Aiden Skye]

IL MECHWARRIOR, on 18 November 2014 - 12:46 PM, said:

very nice look, it is ok. problem: too much rush ecm ac20+srm friendly

you said in the davlog that it will be difficult to rush in this map


i wander to know why

you can not see over 300 meters and the spaces are all small: THIS MAP WILL BE PUSH SRM AC20 NOOB FEST, same as mining collective.

mining collective = pac man

you are creating too many short range maps, we need more alpine peaks, canyon network, tourmaline desert, forest colony, my four favourite maps.

AH, EXCELLENT JOB ON THE LIGHT\SHADOW EFFECT

This pretty much sums it up. The map looks visually awesome but at the end of the day it yet another brawler map. Would like to see some more long ranged maps to mix it up

[Ragnahawk]

The crab shells are lrm bugged.
Edit: also... Why the heck would you not have one of those center stairways facing the opposite way?

Edited by Beast Engine, 22 November 2014 - 10:14 PM.

[ShadowDarter]

After a few games on the map:

1.) For up close and personal combat this map is good. (by up close and personal I ment youi could open your mech hatches and use spit balls to target the enemy mechs.)

2.) Colision mapping needs serious overhauls, the locations have been said numerous times already.

[ImperialKnight]

It we could walk 5 steps without getting tripped up by terrain, that would be nice

[C E Dwyer]

I love the map, its fun, you have to think you need to be aware of snag issues, its a learning map.

Only thing I think to say on the negative, apart from a ffs move when I snag, is that it's, (like the factory map), to small, it needs expanding by 20-33% in size (both do) and that should be the bare minimum size. as alpine should be the largest, for 12v12.

The major fault with river city which is a well designed map fails in 12v12 because its to cramped, and the last two maps are borderline for size with 12v12.

Don't get me wrong I like brawl maps, but maps this size limit your tactical options, to much

[Volkodav]

Yes, it seems too closely, cramped (cluttered). May be just remove all remains of giant arthropods. Pl. consider this variation.
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I like:
This place, Coordinates: B6, C6. Really. Very nice and created feeling the lost beauty, fairy tales, etc.). And not cramped)

Spoiler

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Edited by Volkodav, 23 November 2014 - 03:01 AM.

[Chagatay]

My major issue with the map is that the east side gets a huge advantage by quicker access to the two big plateau sections in the center of the map. Regretably, this map is very small and control of this region all but ensures a win.

As to fix it, I would put access to the plateau sections on the western/southwestern sides as well.

[Troutmonkey]

Using Heat Vision drops my FPS from 30-40 down to 10-20 and makes the game basically unplayable.

As noted the carapace doesn't block missile fire, a fact which I have been abusing by firing SRMs at unsuspecting foes who thought they were in "cover". They thought wrong.

[AgentGG]

Have to agree with the map giving one side an advantage. Refering to the steps for the plateau in the middle of map facing one spawn and not the other

[All your hopes and dreams]

Ashvins, on 22 November 2014 - 02:05 AM, said:

This is the bigest problem with this map. I'm sure once you look at the W/L ratio on the map you will find the team which has the direct access (southern I belive) wins the majority of the time.

You are forgetting team composition (mechs+player skill), which affects the outcome more than the map. Globally, maps have nearly a 50/50 W/L ratio, so everything is fine. Of course, that is not true, but data does not support your claims, so count on nothing happening to improve the situation. See literally all previous maps for reference.

[warner2]

1) It's unbalanced and favours the north/east spawn

2) There is so much fog and vines and trees and other **** I can't see a thing playing on this map

I don't know whether I dislike it more than Terra Therma but it's close. Very bad map. Not fun.

Maps should be built with one goal and one goal only which is enjoyable game-play. This one much like Terra Therma is already turning out to be more of a chore.