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[Bishop Steiner]

KrazedOmega, on 22 November 2014 - 05:12 PM, said:

I've played 26 matches, I'm 11-15 with 4 qualified rounds.

4 rounds I failed to get a kill.

3 rounds I got a kill but didn't survive. 2 of those rounds we were up by a lot but I refused to sit back and hide.

I've been TK'd once through my rear CT. I've been blocked by two teammates from returning to cover and killed by the enemy. I was watched by two teammates, who seemingly refused to return fire, while I was hit and destroyed by LRMs from the second last heavily damaged enemy mech, while returning to cover.

I've seen nothing but selfishness and cowardice during my matches. The requirement to "Survive" is terrible when combined with a kill and a win.

This is by far the worst challenge that I've taken part in. Many time worse than the 50 Wins challenge, and I thought nothing would top that.

Agreed. Though last weekend "Avoid a Kill at all costs" (because they are worth HALF of an assist) was top 5 in bad ideas, lol.

[Sandpit]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 November 2014 - 05:14 PM, said:

Unless you are in a well run 8-12 man, groups are not that much better IMO, this weekend. Sadly, I hate drop command, and the few good ones I have dropped with only last a few hours before the rampant idiocy burns them out.

And tempted to buy DA:I to play on tourny weekends if this type of scoring becomes the norm again. Lance Challenge was fun. A couple around it were OK. The last two? Just largely bad.

no offense but people who suicide EXACTLY what has created a need for the "survive" clause. Should I go back and post your tweets of "i'm just going ot run in with my locust and suicide early and repeat the process until I win to "show PGI" the flaw in their system"?

Edited by Sandpit, 22 November 2014 - 05:46 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Sandpit, on 22 November 2014 - 05:15 PM, said:

sorry for your luck in teammates?
There's plenty of others who are having a completely different experience with their teams and play and enjoying the event.

Requiring people to survive has prevented those who exploited every other event by just running in to die early and leave their team shorthanded. Now they can't do that.

Yes, instead, as noted by mos tof the other posts on here, it seems the majority of people are so afraid of dying, and missing their precious Point that they try for their one kill, and then cower, hoping everyone else will do the heavy lifting so they don't possibly die..... which when half or more of the team is doing that, usually mean you ALL die.

SMART Players, realize that they are going to die some matches, but a willingness to be aggressive means a better chance of a Win, and thus, if all players approach it that way, teams will trade off who lives, who qualifies each round, and get there, in a decent span.

But, as noted, if you are not bringing 7 or more trustworthy friends, that is the exception, not the rule, for MOST players I have spoken with.

Not everyone has a readymade 12 made on speed dial at all times, sorry to tell you, small groups and PUGs are involved in this Tourney, too, especially since there is no "Opt In" or separate queues for it.

Sandpit, on 22 November 2014 - 05:16 PM, said:

no offense but you and people like you are EXACTLY what has created a need for the "survive" clause. Should I go back and post your tweets of "i'm just going ot run in with my locust and suicide early and repeat the process until I win to "show PGI" the flaw in their system"?

Me and people like me? You mean the guy who fights to his last bitter breath every match?


Lol. Piss off dude. You don't know me, and have no clue what you are talking about. But thanks for reminding me why I twitter blocked you and added you to my ignore list.

[Sandpit]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 November 2014 - 05:21 PM, said:

Me and people like me? You mean the guy who fights to his last bitter breath every match?


Lol. Piss off dude. You don't know me, and have no clue what you are talking about. But thanks for reminding me why I twitter blocked you and added you to my ignore list.

again, should I post your tweets where you announce that you're going to suicide in your locust?

oh, almost forgot, you used a locust to "be nice" to your team so you wouldn't be "handicapping them" and taking an assault or heavy away from them

if really needed I THINK you may have even posted on the forums about it as well. But not positive on that one.

Edited by Sandpit, 22 November 2014 - 05:27 PM.

[Mystere]

MarsAtlas, on 22 November 2014 - 10:58 AM, said:

Yep. Like I said, the survival criteria encourages a "**** you, got mine" mentality, even taken to the extreme. Honestly if not for my restraint, I'd be out there team-killing constantly, usually since the people who already get a kill are shoving teammates out of the way so that they can get one more.

... getting four "Most Damage Assists" in a match, surviving, winning and still not qualifying has really made me bitter about this whole weekend.

But yeah, you being killed by a teammate will disqualify you from the point.

Almost everything wrong with this challenge can be traced back to the survival requirement. Kill-stealing would still exist and be annoying, but at least the challenge wouldn't actively be discouraging nearly every playstyle if the survival requirement.

I just have two points to share:

• My first few matches, and team mates, were abysmal. But, things got progressively better for the most part.
  
• I like the survival requirement. It makes surviving finally mean something.

[Mothykins]

Sandpit, on 22 November 2014 - 05:26 PM, said:

again, should I post your tweets where you announce that you're going to suicide in your locust?

oh, almost forgot, you used a locust to "be nice" to your team so you wouldn't be "handicapping them" and taking an assault or heavy away from them

if really needed I THINK you may have even posted on the forums about it as well. But not positive on that one.

Yo, dude?

Attacking ones character as opposed to their argument is not winning the argument. I know you ain't the face of politeness, but generally you have a more level head than this. Personal vendetta BS like this ain't flattering you.

[Bishop Steiner]

Sandpit, on 22 November 2014 - 05:26 PM, said:

again, should I post your tweets where you announce that you're going to suicide in your locust?

oh, almost forgot, you used a locust to "be nice" to your team so you wouldn't be "handicapping them" and taking an assault or heavy away from them

if really needed I THINK you may have even posted on the forums about it as well. But not positive on that one.

Go ahead and post away. Just Be sure you post the full threads for context, princess.

1) I don't drive locusts, and 2) I don't suicide. Ever.

GG, close.

Cavale, on 22 November 2014 - 05:31 PM, said:

Yo, dude?

Attacking ones character as opposed to their argument is not winning the argument. I know you ain't the face of politeness, but generally you have a more level head than this. Personal vendetta BS like this ain't flattering you.

When a person has no actual point, it's what they are reduced to. I expect little more from him sadly.

[Sandpit]

Cavale, on 22 November 2014 - 05:31 PM, said:

Yo, dude?

Attacking ones character as opposed to their argument is not winning the argument. I know you ain't the face of politeness, but generally you have a more level head than this. Personal vendetta BS like this ain't flattering you.

no, i'm pointing out that people who openly exploited the system of previous events and such are the reason a stipulation like "survive" is needed. If you didn't have to worry about people exploiting systems like that then "survive" wouldn't be needed to prevent it.

As he and others have openly admitted and pointed out publicly (by their own admission and statements THEY stated it, not me) any event that doesn't require a player to stick around until the end of the match will jsut be exploited in the exact manner that he and others have stated they use.

It's not an attack on his character, he has openly admitted (on twitter to Russ no less) that he did it. Then turns around and says "survive" is bad.

I'm pointing out that if people wouldn't exploit the system, there would be no need for something like a "survive" stipulation. I don't know him personally, I don't have anything personally against him. Everything I stated HE stated publicly of his own volition.

[Bishop Steiner]

Sandpit, on 22 November 2014 - 05:38 PM, said:

no, i'm pointing out that people who openly exploited the system of previous events and such are the reason a stipulation like "survive" is needed. If you didn't have to worry about people exploiting systems like that then "survive" wouldn't be needed to prevent it.

As he and others have openly admitted and pointed out publicly (by their own admission and statements THEY stated it, not me) any event that doesn't require a player to stick around until the end of the match will jsut be exploited in the exact manner that he and others have stated they use.

It's not an attack on his character, he has openly admitted (on twitter to Russ no less) that he did it. Then turns around and says "survive" is bad.

I'm pointing out that if people wouldn't exploit the system, there would be no need for something like a "survive" stipulation. I don't know him personally, I don't have anything personally against him. Everything I stated HE stated publicly of his own volition.

Show me where I said I suicide. I eagerly await for that.

[Sandpit]

Now, I'll also say this. IF, and that's a big IF because I AM going to look, I'm mistaken I publicly and wholeheartedly apologize IF I got him mixed up with someone else because I can admit if and when I'm wrong.

Bishop Steiner, on 22 November 2014 - 05:40 PM, said:

Show me where I said I suicide. I eagerly await for that.

It's take a bit, this would have been months ago so it'll take a bit to dig back

[Bishop Steiner]

Sandpit, on 22 November 2014 - 05:41 PM, said:

Now, I'll also say this. IF, and that's a big IF because I AM going to look, I'm mistaken I publicly and wholeheartedly apologize IF I got him mixed up with someone else because I can admit if and when I'm wrong.


It's take a bit, this would have been months ago so it'll take a bit to dig back

You know, a wise person would do so,BEFORE making accusations.

Sounds to me like a smear campaign.

[Mothykins]

Sandpit, on 22 November 2014 - 05:41 PM, said:

Now, I'll also say this. IF, and that's a big IF because I AM going to look, I'm mistaken I publicly and wholeheartedly apologize IF I got him mixed up with someone else because I can admit if and when I'm wrong.


It's take a bit, this would have been months ago so it'll take a bit to dig back

Is it possible that you have him somehow confused for me? I'll occasionally take the Trial Spider on blitz runs and see how long I can last trying to take on the entire opposing force. Krafty enjoyed brining that up for a while.

[Sandpit]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 November 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

You know, a wise person would do so,BEFORE making accusations.

Sounds to me like a smear campaign.

I'm not smearing anything, I stand by what I said, I'm working back through twitter now.
Regardless how about this UNTIL I find it
People like THAT

As such, I'll redact you personally UNTIL I find the tweets

Cavale, on 22 November 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Is it possible that you have him somehow confused for me? I'll occasionally take the Trial Spider on blitz runs and see how long I can last trying to take on the entire opposing force. Krafty enjoyed brining that up for a while.

and no, it wasn't you,

[Bishop Steiner]

Cavale, on 22 November 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Is it possible that you have him somehow confused for me? I'll occasionally take the Trial Spider on blitz runs and see how long I can last trying to take on the entire opposing force. Krafty enjoyed brining that up for a while.

Dunno. I ran my locusts for a bit after the PHX pack dropped. Can't recall ever claiming I intentionally suicide in anything, though I have said it was pretty suicidal for me to do so at times. Perhaps he is being "captain literal".

*shrugs* whatever.

I don't, and never have suicided, unless one counts a kamikaze charge after all the derps on my team have got themselves killed. Plenty of CTDs due to wonderfully reliably Internet Service, yes. Suicide, no.

Defeats the purpose of even playing a game.

Sandpit, on 22 November 2014 - 05:47 PM, said:

I'm not smearing anything, I stand by what I said, I'm working back through twitter now.
Regardless how about this UNTIL I find it
People like THAT

As such, I'll redact you personally UNTIL I find the tweets


and no, it wasn't you,

take your time. Just avoid post the FULL conversations for whatever you post, and oh, no photoshop.

But nice way to CYA to avoid being reported, I suppose, in the meantime. Except I don't find your accusation worth the time to report.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 22 November 2014 - 05:49 PM.

[Sandpit]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 November 2014 - 05:48 PM, said:

Dunno. I ran my locusts for a bit after the PHX pack dropped. Can't recall ever claiming I intentionally suicide in anything, though I have said it was pretty suicidal for me to do so at times. Perhaps he is being "captain literal".

*shrugs* whatever.

I don't, and never have suicided, unless one counts a kamikaze charge after all the derps on my team have got themselves killed. Plenty of CTDs due to wonderfully reliably Internet Service, yes. Suicide, no.

Defeats the purpose of even playing a game.


take your time. Just avoid post the FULL conversations for whatever you post, and oh, no photoshop.

But nice way to CYA to avoid being reported, I suppose, in the meantime. Except I don't find your accusation worth the time to report.

It was only during the event and it was to "show PGI" the hole in that whole pesky clause and problem with the event. Hit report, please, like I'm going to go to the effort to photshop something to "prove" something to you and others I don't know for a video game. You're not THAT important, although I AM digging through to find the convos

[Bishop Steiner]

Sandpit, on 22 November 2014 - 05:51 PM, said:

It was only during the event and it was to "show PGI" the hole in that whole pesky clause and problem with the event. Hit report, please, like I'm going to go to the effort to photshop something to "prove" something to you and others I don't know for a video game. You're not THAT important, although I AM digging through to find the convos

Have fun with that.

If I ever would have posted a comment like that, I can pretty well assure you it would be prefaced with "I should" do this, or that.

But by all means, continue your "Unimportant to you" witchhunt.

Your inability to let anything go, and cling to every perceived comment like a pitbull is why I twitter blocked you in the first place.

And which event was it during, pray tell?

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 22 November 2014 - 05:54 PM.

[Sandpit]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 November 2014 - 05:54 PM, said:

Have fun with that.

If I ever would have posted a comment like that, I can pretty well assure you it would be prefaced with "I should" do this, or that.

But by all means, continue your "Unimportant to you" witchhunt.

Your inability to let anything go, and cling to every perceived comment like a pitbull is why I twitter blocked you in the first place.

you're the one clinging dude, see where I said I'd redact UNTIL I found it?
See the part where I said I'd apologize if I couldn't find it?
See the part where I'm doing my due diligence because you're right I SHOULD have found it BEFORE saying it.
See the part where I admit where I was wrong?
Yea, that's clinging
smh

[Bishop Steiner]

Sandpit, on 22 November 2014 - 05:55 PM, said:

you're the one clinging dude, see where I said I'd redact UNTIL I found it?
See the part where I said I'd apologize if I couldn't find it?
See the part where I'm doing my due diligence because you're right I SHOULD have found it BEFORE saying it.
See the part where I admit where I was wrong?
Yea, that's clinging
smh

See the part where you keep replying....see the part where you came up with all that...AFTER making accusations?

And nope, don't see any part admitting where you admitted you were wrong, unless you just edited them in.

But of course, it's highly irrational for me to reply when someone attacks me.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 22 November 2014 - 05:58 PM.

[Sandpit]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 November 2014 - 05:57 PM, said:

See the part where you keep replying....see the part where you came up with all that...AFTER making accusations?

And nope, don't see nay part admitting where you were wrong, unless you just edited them in.

maybe you missed the part (again) where I said Yes, I SHOULD have found BEFORE making the statement?
smh
but yea, ok
rofl

[Mothykins]

Could both of you stop before we're forced to either marry you, or you both end up forum banned again? Off topic, back and forth bickering is less than useful. I: