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#1 Lucky Strongarm

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:21 AM

Well, I've been at this off and on since Friday. I'm at 3 of 20.

Now, I'm really bad at this game, so no surprise there, but I think there are many players out there that aren't 25% into that tier 2 goal yet either. I feel like this challenge has poked some real holes in my self-perceptions about my mechwarrior prowess (which was reasonably low to begin with). It is hard to kill, survive personally, and win as a team all in one match.

Also, I think a big part of my problem has been how I originally "strategized" playing this challenge. Namely, get ultra conservative once you've bagged your kill and assist. It's basically making me suck.

Bottom line: It's called a "challenge", meaning, "probably not easy to accomplish". I doubt I'm going to complete this one and get a Victor. Maybe carpal tunnel syndrome.

#2 TamCoan

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:33 AM

Kind of reminds me of a match last night, I knew we were going to lose when the pre-game conversation goes like this:

player1: "I'm new to lights"
player2: "me too!"
player1; "and I'm not good"
player2 "me either"
player3: "I'm new"

I look at the team list and see these three are all in lights in alpha lance. Four trial mechs in our group total.

me: OK, just stick together with the team, don't run out solo and die. You are fast but have no armor to initiate with.

Less than three minutes into the match Alpha lance is dead as they went running to the four corners of the map. I just had to chuckle, shake my head and move on.

#3 Andi Nagasia

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:42 AM

80+ matches in and still have no points,
its not that im a bad player its just this event doesn't work with my style of play,

i usually run a KFX- ECM, 3AMS, CAP, 4JJ, 3SPL, 2MG,...
Light- Anti-Light & Anti-Missile Support,

now ive tried other mechs SCR NVA DWF TBR and still no points,
personally i think the problem is the survival aspect of the Event,

#4 CimaGarahau

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:46 AM

Yeah, very hard one this time. Also achieved nothing so far. Mechwarrior=stay alive, two different things!

#5 Butane9000

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:48 AM

I ran in a group to start with and qualified for 3 out of the 10 matches.

I dropped solo before going to work yesterday and qualified for 4 out of 7 matches.

So far playing smart and in solo que tends to make the challenge easier.

#6 Alistair Winter

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:57 AM

They just set the bar too high. For 20 points you need at least 20 victories. In the solo queue, that's typically around 40 matches. And then you need a kill, assist and survival to get the point. So it's more like 50-60 matches.

They should have given a cheaper champion mech at 10 points. Not try to make people play 10 hours every weekend.

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 10:10 AM

Playing with good teammates helps.

However, you have to pull your own weight to even get consistency.

Inconsistency is the enemy of the great.

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 11:25 AM

I got 8 kills and 4 assists but died... no point

there is something VERY wrong with that.

#9 Shatterpoint

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 11:29 AM

Everyone taking the path of least resistance and spamming missiles, all match..every match...non stop.
Boring challenges are boring.

#10 Angel of Annihilation

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 11:37 AM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 23 November 2014 - 09:57 AM, said:

They just set the bar too high. For 20 points you need at least 20 victories. In the solo queue, that's typically around 40 matches. And then you need a kill, assist and survival to get the point. So it's more like 50-60 matches.

They should have given a cheaper champion mech at 10 points. Not try to make people play 10 hours every weekend.


Yeah took me 59 matches to knock out the challenge so this seems about right. Honestly I don't tend to enjoy these challenges well except for the Halloween event which was just amazing and actually encouraged me to play about twice as much as I usually do.

The big issue I had this challenge was that at the end of the day you had to rely on your team playing well. I honestly had some of the best game play I have every produced yet time and time again, my team failed me and by half way through the challenge it stopped being fun. By the time I finished it today, I was so thoroughly stressed out and frustrated that I couldn't wait to log off the game. Honestly I don't think this is how these challenges should go.

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 11:44 AM

Took me forever, but I just did it. In a few matches we hunted down the last guy, legged and stripped him and asked who needed a kill. So maybe you should just ask for help with this.

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 11:45 AM

View PostAndi Nagasia, on 23 November 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

80+ matches in and still have no points,
its not that im a bad player its just this event doesn't work with my style of play,

i usually run a KFX- ECM, 3AMS, CAP, 4JJ, 3SPL, 2MG,...
Light- Anti-Light & Anti-Missile Support,

now ive tried other mechs SCR NVA DWF TBR and still no points,
personally i think the problem is the survival aspect of the Event,


Your play style should always include "survive the match".

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 12:05 PM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 23 November 2014 - 09:57 AM, said:

They just set the bar too high. For 20 points you need at least 20 victories. In the solo queue, that's typically around 40 matches. And then you need a kill, assist and survival to get the point. So it's more like 50-60 matches.

They should have given a cheaper champion mech at 10 points. Not try to make people play 10 hours every weekend.


I was lucky to do it in 48, but had a pretty good group of C4s to work with on Friday that brought me 10 out of 20. Had to do the rest solo, but god it felt like I was playing Outlast not MWO. I tackeled the event with CDA-3M\2A and Embers and especially the latter is good at killing stuff lategame, so I very often had to get my kill from the last remaining enemies... I never felt so stressed out playing in my entire live, because I knew that if I can't do it within 60 matches I will run out of time.

The Victor itself is a great price and premium right from the beginning helped me get some much needed weapon modules along the way, but fun it was not.

Edited by Myke Pantera, 23 November 2014 - 12:17 PM.


#14 POWR

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 12:05 PM

Wow.. 3 points O.o I haven't even gotten to one yet.

Not sure what happened to the game, but I was gone from actual gameplay for more than just a 30 minute pop in here and there over the past 6 months or so. But I've kept up via forums. But now, nothing I do seems to be working. Everything just seems to be people piling on top of eachother, a constant retreat, death in .1 sec to stuff I didn't know and a thousand long range missiles. I don't really know what I'm supposed to anymore.

But apparently this challenge, 30 or so matches in , has yielded 0 points total for me. I can't even remember if we had much of any wins on my team. But who knows... I started quitting to get in to the next match when I die. Cause hey, it doesn't matter in the slightest who wins now.


Every single match you just seem to suddenly be hit by extreme damage hits like gauss, heavy acs and such from 4-5 mechs, stripping everything in one hit. But for some reason, my team never seems to get in to those situations. I don't know what's going on with that, but it's just a constant stomp in a few seconds for me, every single match. And if it's not, then I just seem to see every member of my team slowly retreating and dying along the way. Is there some sort of issue with the matchmaker that puts groups in to the solo queue now?

Edited by POWR, 23 November 2014 - 12:20 PM.


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Posted 23 November 2014 - 12:15 PM

devs just have problems with logic.They dont understand that their "rules" are ridiculous and contrary to gameplay.Its almost imposible to kill someone, assists, complete primary or secondary objective and stay survive and win match.Its absolutely ridiculous.Shame if they dont understand so simple things.Game still going down .

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 12:38 PM

for 30 matches 1 point.PGI wake up, open eyes and start using your brains.There is a mess happening in your game.

#17 DjPush

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 12:41 PM

I didn't pay money into a game for it to be challenging. I should win every match and all mechs should crumble once gazed upon! I demand a refund!

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 12:45 PM

View PostDjPush, on 23 November 2014 - 12:41 PM, said:

I didn't pay money into a game for it to be challenging. I should win every match and all mechs should crumble once gazed upon! I demand a refund!

clown spotted

#19 DjPush

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 12:47 PM

Also, specific times in the day are peak times for "meta" competitive teams. You just have learn what times those are for you. For instance:

I live in the USA where it is just not fun to play any time after 11PM MST. Prime times for me are between 5 and 10pm on the week days or 12pm to 6pm on the weekends. Anything outside of those time periods and the risk of running into a GOON squad or comp team is much higher.

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 12:49 PM

View PostKhobai, on 23 November 2014 - 11:25 AM, said:

I got 8 kills and 4 assists but died... no point

there is something VERY wrong with that.

Why didn't you leave some enemy mechs to your teamates? and doing so, saving your life?





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