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[Brody319]

MATRAKA14, on 03 December 2014 - 12:39 PM, said:

Will this mech make the atlas obsolete?
I love my atlas but I see the crab as a really strong brawler and a really good long/mid range mech.

Atlas has more energy and missile hardpoints. AC20s are decent, but are pretty close ranged. Still it comes down to hit boxes. The atlas is good because it can twist to spread damage, if the Crab has a big CT it won't be a good twister.

cdlord, on 03 December 2014 - 12:42 PM, said:

I can see the KC doing one thing and doing it very well. I have yet to see an Atlas boat be better than a mixed range loadout. I'd be slightly more concerned about the Stalker being outclassed (and no ballistic boat Stalker anyways). Just really depends on the number and placement of the KC's hardpoints....

Stalker is 85 tons, and boats missiles and Lasers better than the KC ever will. The KC has a heavy reliance on Ammo weapons, 2 Energy slots isnt a lot (assuming it does have 2 at all). Plus the Stalker could just make it rain to shell the crab, then cook those delicious insides with lasers

Edited by Brody319, 03 December 2014 - 12:45 PM.

[Wieland]

KhanCipher, on 02 December 2014 - 04:19 PM, said:

Davion: Davion Heavy Gaurds
Steiner: (idk the unit name that uses that coloring) stereotypical Steiner colors
other 4: Doesn't look like any (well known) [faction name] coloring i know of.

The Steiner camo is Lyran Guards.

[Shredhead]

Lancer Deistler, on 03 December 2014 - 03:22 AM, said:

Well i see a grammer mistake on the Steiner claws. It looks like it actually says "Schnappe Schnappe" wich is wrong. "Schnapp Schnapp" translates to "snap snap", "schnappe schnappe" translates to "snapping snapping"

I've already tweeted Russ about it, hopefully they can get it fixed.

"Will the KC obsolete the Atlas?"
Most definitely not, you will have to trade more speed for firepower in the KC than in the Atlas, and they are at the same effective range. And it will definitely lose a head on engagement against a Dire Whale.

Edited by Shredhead, 03 December 2014 - 01:05 PM.

[Ph30nix]

MATRAKA14, on 03 December 2014 - 12:39 PM, said:

Will this mech make the atlas obsolete?
I love my atlas but I see the crab as a really strong brawler and a really good long/mid range mech.

no variants of the crab have ECM so the DDC will always have a place, the other Atlas are already sidelined for the DDC so the atlas's current position overall will stay the same but any version but the DDC will be even less worthwhile.

[Sigilum Sanctum]

"The Clamps" on House Davion?

Is....is that a futurama reference!?

[Greenjulius]

Shredhead, on 03 December 2014 - 01:01 PM, said:

I've already tweeted Russ about it, hopefully they can get it fixed.

"Will the KC obsolete the Atlas?"
Most definitely not, you will have to trade more speed for firepower in the KC than in the Atlas, and they are at the same effective range. And it will definitely lose a head on engagement against a Dire Whale.

I think within 600 meters, the Dire will have the advantage if we are talking straight up UAC5 or UAC10 spam. Past that, IS UAC5 has the advantage of being easier to put all rounds on target while twisting. It will be interesting to see if it will be enough to counter 6x Clan ballistic hardpoints.

The King Crab appears to be able to do a 2xGauss with 5 tons of ammo and 2xPPC build as well, and also upgrade to a STD325. That's 58kph for a heavy sniper, 528/614 armor.

The crab can do 2xAC5, 2xLB10x as well which should help quite a bit and will give it an advantage over the Dire LBx boats in regards to long range, but still keep a close range punch. I'm looking forward to trying all these configs!

[Brody319]

Greenjulius, on 03 December 2014 - 01:25 PM, said:

I think within 600 meters, the Dire will have the advantage if we are talking straight up UAC5 or UAC10 spam. Past that, IS UAC5 has the advantage of being easier to put all rounds on target while twisting. It will be interesting to see if it will be enough to counter 6x Clan ballistic hardpoints.

The King Crab appears to be able to do a 2xGauss with 5 tons of ammo and 2xPPC build as well, and also upgrade to a STD325. That's 58kph for a heavy sniper, 528/614 armor.

The crab can do 2xAC5, 2xLB10x as well which should help quite a bit and will give it an advantage over the Dire LBx boats in regards to long range, but still keep a close range punch. I'm looking forward to trying all these configs!

I think with those giant crab hands mounting gauss is a risk, because if that pops you will probably lose your STs which hold your 2 PPCs. so while it can mount a sniper build its in more danger of losing weapons.

[Project_Mercy]

I like the looks. I don't get the white & green for Kurita. Even during the house-flavored sales, you sold black & red for Kurita. Black & Red makes sense. White and Green is.. something else.

[KharnZor]

Joseph Mallan, on 03 December 2014 - 06:21 AM, said:

2nd Free Worlds Legionnaires

But I get your meaning.

That paint job.....i just vomited in my mouth a little..
I'm going to cruise ebay and buy some minis to paint

[Brody319]

KharnZor, on 03 December 2014 - 01:44 PM, said:

That paint job.....i just vomited in my mouth a little..
I'm going to cruise ebay and buy some minis to paint

coat them in Chia seeds and cha cha cha chia

[Greenjulius]

Brody319, on 03 December 2014 - 01:27 PM, said:

I think with those giant crab hands mounting gauss is a risk, because if that pops you will probably lose your STs which hold your 2 PPCs. so while it can mount a sniper build its in more danger of losing weapons.

Agreed. We'll see what kind of hitboxes it gets stuck with. I can see the arms being a liability.

A very common build will likely just be 4xAC5, kind of like a big CTF-4X. You can throw in 4xAC5, 10 tons of ammo (300 rounds) and a STD350 to propel it to 62.4 after speed tweak.

Just treat the LRM15+A as a AC5... They have the same weight and crit space.

King Crab 4xAC5, STD350

[Brody319]

Greenjulius, on 03 December 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

Agreed. We'll see what kind of hitboxes it gets stuck with. I can see the arms being a liability.

A very common build will likely just be 4xAC5, kind of like a big CTF-4X. You can throw in 4xAC5, 10 tons of ammo (300 rounds) and a STD350 to propel it to 62.4 after speed tweak.

Just treat the LRM15+A as a AC5... They have the same weight and crit space.

King Crab 4xAC5, STD350

if we are lucky we might be able to squeeze 2 AC10s in there. that would be fun. I wonder if the crab will get quirks now or later.

[Greenjulius]

Brody319, on 03 December 2014 - 01:48 PM, said:

if we are lucky we might be able to squeeze 2 AC10s in there. that would be fun. I wonder if the crab will get quirks now or later.

Unless the arm specs are different from all other mechs, we will only get 10 slots to work with, and an AC10 uses 7 of them. You could pair them with AC2s and MGs only unfortunately, although 2xAC10, 2xAC2 might not be a bad combo.

LB10x and UAC5 only use 6 and 5, so they could both be paired with AC5s which only take up 4.

Weapon / Slots / Tons
MG / 1 / .5
AC2 / 1 / 6
AC5 / 4 / 8
UAC5 / 5 / 9
LB10x / 6 / 11
AC10 / 7 / 12
Gauss / 7 / 15
AC20 / 10 / 14

Mix and match slots... if it's 10 or under, I'll give it a try! Maybe not MGs though...

[Brody319]

Greenjulius, on 03 December 2014 - 01:55 PM, said:

Unless the arm specs are different from all other mechs, we will only get 10 slots to work with, and an AC10 uses 7 of them. You could pair them with AC2s and MGs only unfortunately, although 2xAC10, 2xAC2 might not be a bad combo.

LB10x and UAC5 only use 6 and 5, so they could both be paired with AC5s which only take up 4.

Weapon / Slots / Tons
MG / 1 / .5
AC2 / 1 / 6
AC5 / 4 / 8
UAC5 / 5 / 9
LB10x / 6 / 11
AC10 / 7 / 12
Gauss / 7 / 15
AC20 / 10 / 14

Mix and match slots... if it's 10 or under, I'll give it a try! Maybe not MGs though...

I won't be getting one so I'll have to pretend with smurfy.

[SilentSooYun]

Wraeththix Constantine, on 03 December 2014 - 01:27 PM, said:

I like the looks. I don't get the white & green for Kurita. Even during the house-flavored sales, you sold black & red for Kurita. Black & Red makes sense. White and Green is.. something else.

It's 1st Ghost Regiment paint... or close enough. Example

[Soul Tribunal]

I saw the King Crab.

I saw my Davion Colours.

The possibility exists that I wet my pants.

-ST

[Saobh]

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Minoxen Commentaries ‏@Minoxen 6h6 hours ago
@russ_bullock KC skins determined by Resistance Pack picks? Otherwise it comes "plain"? All 6 available Dec 16 for Wrath pack buyers? #mwo

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@Minoxen king crab comes with the loyalty skin like the Atlas S and Cent AH - it was just demoing the faction skins

So for those receiving it on the 16th there is no pattern changing, only the ones being bought later on will be capable of such.

Edited by Saobh, 03 December 2014 - 02:43 PM.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Saobh, on 03 December 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

So for those receiving it on the 16th there is no pattern changing, only the ones being bought later on will be capable of such.

That was what I thought.

Sadness.

Thank you.

[Greenjulius]

Saobh, on 03 December 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

So for those receiving it on the 16th there is no pattern changing, only the ones being bought later on will be capable of such.

Yeah, that's too bad. I hope the skin for the Loyalty reward KGC is great, because I want that Davion pattern bad. I guess I can always equip it on the others.

I would even be happy with the green shark face one they've used for the promo art.

Thanks for the info!

Edited by Greenjulius, 03 December 2014 - 03:38 PM.

[Saobh]

I would suppose that the green shark face that we've seen is indeed the pattern for the loyalty one that people will be receivig that day, so shear up