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#21 Golden Vulf

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 11:57 PM

View PostApocryph0n, on 08 December 2014 - 11:22 PM, said:

Calm down, they made ALL Variants the "modern" one. See for yourself tonight, when it's released.

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That's not the preorder (I) Invasion Variant. That good looking version of the Prime is not available until next year for MC and then C-bills.

I feel compelled to say, this version of the gargoyle looks great. But the (I) version looks like a hideous after thought that no one wanted!

I really want my 30% c-bill Gargoyle to look like the good version. (with the (I) shoulder pads)

Edited by Golden Vulf, 09 December 2014 - 12:00 AM.


#22 Apocryph0n

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 02:20 AM

You're right, didn't see the lack of (I)


Guess we'll still get the unique geometry! (that's what I call ugly people from now on as well.)

#23 KuroNyra

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 03:55 AM

The Assault Queue is DOA. X')

#24 SgtMagor

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 04:01 AM

it seems the Devs wanted one that looked more like the classic MOW for the (I) variant... http://www.sarna.net.../d7/Manowar.jpg

Edited by SgtMagor, 09 December 2014 - 04:02 AM.


#25 KuroNyra

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 04:09 AM

View PostSgtMagor, on 09 December 2014 - 04:01 AM, said:

it seems the Devs wanted one that looked more like the classic MOW for the (I) variant... http://www.sarna.net.../d7/Manowar.jpg

One of the thing we liked about MWO was the fact they were able to take old design and recreate them in a new fashion while retaining the spirit of the mech.

Seriously, just look at this.
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and that.
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They made the Atlas nice looking... Before that, the Atlas was awful to watch... And the man-o-war... Urg...

Edited by KuroNyra, 09 December 2014 - 04:14 AM.


#26 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 05:02 AM

View PostNephyrisX, on 08 December 2014 - 10:01 PM, said:

Because tradition demands we must have one of these.

I second this motion. Now let me flame against it. :D

#27 Widowmaker1981

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 05:08 AM

Same speed as a timberwolf? Check
no jumpjets? check
8 less tons for guns? check

yeah, its going to be awesome.. like.. erm wait. no, its going to be a crappy huge non jumping timberwolf with the firepower of a stormcrow.

It will be useable, not DOA, but its going to be very subpar compared to what already exists.

Edited by Widowmaker1981, 09 December 2014 - 05:09 AM.


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Posted 09 December 2014 - 05:18 AM

View PostWidowmaker1981, on 09 December 2014 - 05:08 AM, said:

Same speed as a timberwolf? Check
no jumpjets? check
8 less tons for guns? check

yeah, its going to be awesome.. like.. erm wait. no, its going to be a crappy huge non jumping timberwolf with the firepower of a stormcrow.

It will be useable, not DOA, but its going to be very subpar compared to what already exists.


It will have PP alpha that only a couple IS assaults can surpass.

#29 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 05:29 AM

View PostWidowmaker1981, on 09 December 2014 - 05:08 AM, said:

Same speed as a timberwolf? Check
no jumpjets? check
8 less tons for guns? check

yeah, its going to be awesome.. like.. erm wait. no, its going to be a crappy huge non jumping timberwolf with the firepower of a stormcrow.

It will be useable, not DOA, but its going to be very subpar compared to what already exists.

Play it like its a TBR or SCR and you deserve to die in it.

#30 Apocryph0n

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 05:32 AM

View Postcdlord, on 09 December 2014 - 05:29 AM, said:

Play it like its a TBR or SCR and you deserve to die in it.



Yes, and I bet he has not noticed that the missing tonnage is basically what a LaserVOmit TBR uses for Heatsinks. Those are already hard wired. So basically you can build an energy boat with 100 more armor, twice the heat sinks AND larger lasers/more wubb/whatever floats your boat.

#31 Aggravated Assault Mech

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 05:34 AM

Have people already recieved their King Crabs and Gargoyles? I got the prompt for redeemed items but they aren't in my mechbay.

#32 Apocryph0n

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 05:35 AM

View Postvnlk65n, on 09 December 2014 - 05:34 AM, said:

Have people already recieved their King Crabs and Gargoyles? I got the prompt for redeemed items but they aren't in my mechbay.


Not until after the (HUGE) patch later. (In like 4 hours.)

You probably redeemed something else ;)

#33 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 05:35 AM

View Postvnlk65n, on 09 December 2014 - 05:34 AM, said:

Have people already recieved their King Crabs and Gargoyles? I got the prompt for redeemed items but they aren't in my mechbay.

Today's patch ~10am PST. The redeeming items thing I believe is a bug.

#34 Widowmaker1981

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 05:40 AM

View PostApocryph0n, on 09 December 2014 - 05:32 AM, said:



Yes, and I bet he has not noticed that the missing tonnage is basically what a LaserVOmit TBR uses for Heatsinks. Those are already hard wired. So basically you can build an energy boat with 100 more armor, twice the heat sinks AND larger lasers/more wubb/whatever floats your boat.


TBR comes with 15 heatsinks, GAR comes with 16. (ONE WHOLE HS MORE)
TBR comes with 27.5 tons of podspace at 460 armour, GAR comes with 19.5 tons of podspace at 466 armour.
The only build the GAR can run is laservomit, which the TBR can also run

Please stop being idiotic

#35 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 05:42 AM

View PostWidowmaker1981, on 09 December 2014 - 05:40 AM, said:


TBR comes with 15 heatsinks, GAR comes with 16. (ONE WHOLE HS MORE)
TBR comes with 27.5 tons of podspace at 460 armour, GAR comes with 19.5 tons of podspace at 466 armour.
The only build the GAR can run is laservomit, which the TBR can also run

Please stop being idiotic

That's one whole DHS more.

Oh, and you are still comparing it to a TBR.... Just because a fish cannot climb a tree like a squirrel doesn't mean the fish is useless. Gimme some time in the lab when it comes out. I'll give you a build and show you how to play it.

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 05:43 AM

View PostApocryph0n, on 09 December 2014 - 05:35 AM, said:


Not until after the (HUGE) patch later. (In like 4 hours.)

You probably redeemed something else ;)


You're right- I didn't notice the Wave 2 medallions!

#37 Vassago Rain

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 05:45 AM

View PostWidowmaker1981, on 09 December 2014 - 05:40 AM, said:


TBR comes with 15 heatsinks, GAR comes with 16. (ONE WHOLE HS MORE)
TBR comes with 27.5 tons of podspace at 460 armour, GAR comes with 19.5 tons of podspace at 466 armour.
The only build the GAR can run is laservomit, which the TBR can also run

Please stop being idiotic


They gotta defend their 120 dollar package that so far has contained all of one worthwhile gundam.

#38 Widowmaker1981

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 05:48 AM

View Postcdlord, on 09 December 2014 - 05:42 AM, said:

That's one whole DHS more.

Oh, and you are still comparing it to a TBR.... Just because a fish cannot climb a tree like a squirrel doesn't mean the fish is useless. Gimme some time in the lab when it comes out. I'll give you a build and show you how to play it.


I simply don't see how people are so dense..

Im comparing it because its the obvious comparison (only 5 tons difference in weight, same speed) on clan side

Its worse in literally every single way except having slightly more armour, which is massively offset by the Huge movement profile and larger frame

Any build you can come up with on the GAR can be replicated on the TBR with more heatsinks and Jumpjets at the same speed for 5 less tons.

It will still be useable, i never said it wouldn't be, but it will be sub par

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 05:50 AM

I already called it as being DOA due to it being to ugly for words.

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 06:02 AM

View PostVassago Rain, on 09 December 2014 - 05:45 AM, said:


They gotta defend their 120 dollar package that so far has contained all of one worthwhile gundam.


I bought that package too, because $120 was cheaper than $80 + $55 and i wanted the King Crab and Hellbringer. I knew the Lynx, Ferret and Gargle would be rubbish, but i didnt want the resistance pack mechs anyway.

The next clan pack should be a winner (plus the assault will be the fail one so you can skip the top tier)





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