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[MischiefSC]

We're all dealing with this. My strong recommendation is that we petition PGI for some means of official ceasefires coordinated by the biggest loyalist orgs.

For all we know these are false flag units working for Clanners trying to get us to waste resources and not coordinate.

We need an official ceasefire option between factions, decided by the biggest faction official house units. Mercs get plenty of perks, deciding a bit of house diplomacy should be in faction loyalist domain.

[pwnface]

MischiefSC, on 19 December 2014 - 01:21 PM, said:

We're all dealing with this. My strong recommendation is that we petition PGI for some means of official ceasefires coordinated by the biggest loyalist orgs.

For all we know these are false flag units working for Clanners trying to get us to waste resources and not coordinate.

We need an official ceasefire option between factions, decided by the biggest faction official house units. Mercs get plenty of perks, deciding a bit of house diplomacy should be in faction loyalist domain.

The problem I see with this is, who gets to determine when the ceasefire ends? Does the ceasefire ending need to be declared? If one faction wants to be shady and say "let's have a ceasefire" and then a week later go full bore assault against their ally, they should be allowed to. If factions are organized enough it is generally pretty easy to just defend against random pug attacks and focus concentrated attacks on enemies.

[MischiefSC]

pwnface, on 19 December 2014 - 01:32 PM, said:

The problem I see with this is, who gets to determine when the ceasefire ends? Does the ceasefire ending need to be declared? If one faction wants to be shady and say "let's have a ceasefire" and then a week later go full bore assault against their ally, they should be allowed to. If factions are organized enough it is generally pretty easy to just defend against random pug attacks and focus concentrated attacks on enemies.

My concern is further down the line. Organized false-flag groups. We could make alt accounts, go Clanner and make them pull folks from the front line to keep us from ganking between factions.

It also essentially makes it very profitable to break truces - you're not going to be fighting organzied groups so you can stack easy wins.

[P H O X]

If the vast majority plays fair? i dont mind some $_not_allowed_to_say_that_here

[pwnface]

MischiefSC, on 19 December 2014 - 01:42 PM, said:

My concern is further down the line. Organized false-flag groups. We could make alt accounts, go Clanner and make them pull folks from the front line to keep us from ganking between factions.

It also essentially makes it very profitable to break truces - you're not going to be fighting organzied groups so you can stack easy wins.

If an organized group drops against a faction they are supposed to be at peace with, the defending faction still sees who is attacking them. For example, Comstar Irregulars attacked a House Kurita planet (they missed the ceasefire memo) and we immediately had players report in our forums that CI broke the ceasefire. It is pretty easy to tell if you are being attacked by an organized force or a handful of solo players who don't know anything about the politics of CW.

[MischiefSC]

pwnface, on 19 December 2014 - 03:41 PM, said:

If an organized group drops against a faction they are supposed to be at peace with, the defending faction still sees who is attacking them. For example, Comstar Irregulars attacked a House Kurita planet (they missed the ceasefire memo) and we immediately had players report in our forums that CI broke the ceasefire. It is pretty easy to tell if you are being attacked by an organized force or a handful of solo players who don't know anything about the politics of CW.

Absolutely - but the point of ceasefires is to close borders. If you all grouped up with alt accounts, made a merc group called 'Davion Stinks' you could accept a Davion contract and set about, with great intent and determination, attacking Steiner worlds in earnest. This would effectively draw Steiner units to defend it, eliminating the whole point of the ceasefire. Clanners could do the same thing. In reverse any Clanner alliance could be hamstrung this way by IS units who have total more players to spend.

[Tunes of war]

Talono, on 19 December 2014 - 07:05 AM, said:

Ok, the COMGUARDS started their attack on the treacherous FRR. These attacks will continue over christmas.

All other Kurita samurai are requested to join in.

BANZAII !

[Talono]

As we lose on all front lines i would strongly suggest to charge into FRR via Setubal.

There are only very weak units defending the FRR like [Redacted], these can be taken out much more easily than Ghost Bears or Davion.

Edited by John Wolf, 23 December 2014 - 08:18 AM.
Don't target units or players. Be constructive

[Father Dougal]

Talono, on 21 December 2014 - 03:11 PM, said:

As we lose on all front lines i would strongly suggest to charge into FRR via Setubal.

There are only very weak units defending the FRR like the Phönix Legion, these can be taken out much more easily than Ghost Bears or Davion.

Aren't you forgetting someone?

[pwnface]

[Redacted]. He is not a threat to anyone though.

Edited by John Wolf, 23 December 2014 - 08:18 AM.
Unconstructive

[Arcainite]

Davion has a couple of [Redacted]. Mr. "Attack Anyone Whenever" it's allowed in the game so that must mean it's encouraged types...
Basically baka.

Edited by John Wolf, 23 December 2014 - 08:19 AM.
Unconstructive - Don't target users

[Darth Buddha]

We should try to hold the land we have.. FFR should also defend their section, with attacks on S if possible.

[MadC4t]

The 36th Dieron Regulars holding the ceasefire too.

[Talono]

BigBadVlad, on 19 December 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:

Looks like House Davion has made a push to take back Crossing, sitting at 8 Wins for the FedRats currently...

Hopefully someone will soon notice, that we lost around 20 planets already.

[Weird Beard]

It is my view that all DC units should focus entirely on Davion space. Honestly I find it ******** that the Davions are taking the easy route by fighting other house units since they don't have to worry about that clans on their borders (at least not now).

It should also be noted that the Davion population is probably the highest of all the IS houses since they are 'classically' the protagonists of the universe.

As a house, the DC has lost more worlds to Davion than any other faction. Kurita needs to pummel the crap out of them until they retake lost worlds and Davion stops fighting us and help against the clans.

Edited by Weird Beard, 24 December 2014 - 08:10 PM.

[ice trey]

James Griffin, on 15 December 2014 - 09:56 AM, said:

So much for samurai honour

Talono, on 15 December 2014 - 10:47 AM, said:

All Kurita Samurai : Attack & Take SETUBAL from the FRR joke republic now. Get our satelite state back into the claws of the dragon !

Prince Charming is no longer needed and can hide in exile again under the cover of his Davion friends.

Take SETUBAL !

• We have too many fronts to cover. In case you haven't noticed, we've been bleeding worlds like crazy because we don't have enough players defending maps, and when we do, we're often pug units. We are severely overstretched. Honor doesn't mean being ignorant of the situation.
  
• We had an agreement with Comstar to give those worlds their freedom after being a seditious region for hundreds of years. It gave us a buffer between us and the Steiners, and Comstar granted us a whole slew of Star League mechs in return. The last bunch that tried to retake the FRR were branded Ronin and the Coordinator sent troops to assist the FRR to eliminate those warlords who would disobey the will of the Gunji-no-Kanrei. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Ronin_War

[Tordin]

What I dont get, is who of the FRR really started taking planets from Kurita and Steiner from day 1 CW?? If there were pugs or loyal fanatics (which I see are in your ranks as well). Did you too take planets first BTW, maybe thats the reason?
Couldnt you take them when the Clans have been pushed far enough back with a good margin instead? Right now Clans should be the focus, not squabble over a few planets that you rather could grab back (or given back if there was an function) when the threat is over.

[Lord Ikka]

There is no squabble over planets. The border has been restored, we are now united in our defense of the IS against Clan aggression.

[Tordin]

Good to know, I must have misunderstood the picture.
My apologies.

Also it was mostly regarding Steiner which by judging certain threads
http://mwomercs.com/...66#entry4066666
(at least yesterday), seemed to insist taking back lost planets from us, again that may have also have changed by the moment.
I better read up on recent information..

Edited by Tordin, 03 January 2015 - 07:06 AM.

[Abivard]

Tordin, on 03 January 2015 - 07:05 AM, said:

Good to know, I must have misunderstood the picture.
My apologies.

Also it was mostly regarding Steiner which by judging certain threads
http://mwomercs.com/...66#entry4066666
(at least yesterday), seemed to insist taking back lost planets from us, again that may have also have changed by the moment.
I better read up on recent information..

Steiner is allied with Clan wolf and Davion, those 3 are fighting all their IS neighbors they can reach, which are Kurita, FRR, Marik and Liao.

In addition Clan ghost bear (largest clan faction) is attacking the FRR and Kurita, the Clan smoke jaguars are attacking Kurita as well but have no border with any other IS house.
What is left of CJF has only a single world they can attack, it belongs to steiner and is defended almost exclusively by pugs and Davion units.

The clans are not fighting each other outside of a skirmish or two.

The FRR, Kurita, Marik and Liao are not fighting among themselves in any combination or form.

This is how the lines of fighting and not fighting factions are in CW at present.