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[HBizzle]

heimdelight, on 17 December 2014 - 06:16 AM, said:

Very small effort large reward for the tears and hatred it's the best investment in MWO

Are you off your meds again?

[DaisuSaikoro Nagasawa]

Eglar, on 17 December 2014 - 03:32 AM, said:

It's freebirth.

Are you saying that the language of the Lords are of the freeborn?

[CyclonerM]

Daisu Saikoro, on 17 December 2014 - 01:18 PM, said:

Are you saying that the language of the Lords are of the freeborn?

Well , i am a freeborn and i do not use that language..

[DaisuSaikoro Nagasawa]

Armando, on 17 December 2014 - 08:00 AM, said:

Most of the Lords are not the ones that give the unit the nasty reputation. I know there are Lords pilots who are some of the best pilots the game has to offer, both with how they use their mechs and the respect they show for pilots outside their unit.

If Lords leadership tried half as hard to ensure their pilots have mad 'people skills' (showing respect for fellow MWO players) as they do ensuring their pilots have mad mech skills, they would be perceived by ALL as the HANDS DOWN the greatest unit in the game. As is, they are perceived by most players, at best, as nothing more that super talented trolls.

Interesting point. Personally, and this is just personal reflection, there is an under current that permiates when I speak to others which reads that the unit the Lords (in pursuit of perfection and without the guise of maturity or respect on the war floor) have possible elements of cheaters and hackers.

What is always interesting to me is how those who are deemed of having high skill but are also decent people don't get that label and while I know good people who don't care to speak in turn without appropriate facts they allow the possibility due to the overall unit's culture. Perhaps it's the perception of who the people are at their core which allow for these things as it's one thing to be good at, lets face it a niche video game, and another thing to be an exemplorary person at life (not saying that blowing up digital representations of war machines does not equal solving the riddles of cancer (or in my case trying to solve the riddles of addiction

It reminds me of steroid abuse in professional sports and how the perception of some due to their behavior taint their overall accomplishments (with many of those identified having had abused steroids). Some units are okay with that... and then there are some who are not.

Edited by Daisu Saikoro, 17 December 2014 - 01:36 PM.

[Armando]

Daisu Saikoro, on 17 December 2014 - 01:18 PM, said:

Are you saying that the language of the Lords are of the freeborn?

He is saying the Lords only know how to speak freebirth

Edited by Armando, 17 December 2014 - 05:30 PM.

[Stealth Fox]

As I have watched the responces of Clan Jade Falcon Lord supporters, I have noticed the (sarc on) gracious and humbe replies they have given us in defense of Lord and fellow Lord players and their intence "skill" and "Coordination" (Sarc off)

yeah.. because using a meta build some other guy told you to use on a mech some other guy told you to use, and rolling in a clump, Firing with no locks on what ever the other guy tells you to is "skill"

Yeah, it works, no denying that, but skill? .. Seems like the lowest common form of game play to me. Mechwarrior, a "smart mans shooter" being treated like a mass one life version (or 4 u suppose in CW) of Call of Duty.

I really don't care about that.. I've had what feels like cheper deaths my self when one guy narcs me and everyone else has LRMS in an open arse place like Caustic, But like was previously stated, it is not the tactic that bothers me mostly, (but come on.. who the hell REALLY waits for a Conquest drop, only to death ball in it? Are you freaken serious? Against a set of playes not looking to death ball? come on Lord.) It is the arrogance and the grade school bully mentality that follows with it.

If it is not a socially bad thing.. I have the name of one such player that has shown reprehencable sportsmenship and I shall post it if it is deemed approprate. How ever I shall wait for a yay or nay on it as I come from a culture in the military where if someone messes up, you blast them in public for their mistake. I understand this may not be the case in some places, SO i will leave it up to you.

Personally I think PGI should make a form of player on player policing like Riot does for League of Legends, where Trolls and other reprehencable people are temporarily banned from playing.. or forced to drop with other trolls only.. depending on the rating others give them. While this seems like it could be abused, I'm sure numbers will speak for them selves if any one tries to "counter report" the reporter. Hell even have the players them selves judge who gets punished in this system like LoL's does..

Edit: fixed some spelling errors.

Edited by Seph MacLeod, 19 December 2014 - 05:26 AM.

[Karl Streiger]

Have got the message that a unit member got a drop vs a single lance of Lords that helped a group of PUGs to win.
And of course he complained about mockery.

I asked him for screen shots and he said he didn't have some, but he will have some when this event happen again.

OK - its not a big thing - nothing to complain or whine about - in most cases you can ignore it.
As said the Lords had no problems in whinning the battle - loosing only a couple of Mechs (and I'm sure it were the pugs that payed)

The other team did use LRMs. And we all know - good teams shouldn't have a problem with LRMs - and if the Lords are as good as they are infamous they shouldn't have a problem with LRMs either.
So considering that they did win - the "mockery" to call the others "noobtubers" shouldn't have be necessary. right?

As said not a big thing - but stupid mockery is stupid - "Live and let live."

[DaisuSaikoro Nagasawa]

Seph MacLeod, on 19 December 2014 - 04:23 AM, said:

As I have watched the responces of Clan Jade Falcon Lord supporters, I have noticed the (sarc on) gracious and humbe replies they have given us in defense of Lord and fellow Lord players and their intence "skill" and "Coordination" (Sarc off)

yeah.. because using a meta build some other guy told you to use on a mech some other guy told you to use, and rolling in a clump, Firing with no locks on what ever the other guy tells you to is "skill"

Yeah, it works, no denying that, but skill? .. Seems like the lowest common form of game play to me. Mechwarrior, a "smart mans shooter" being treated like a mass one life version (or 4 u suppose in CW) of Call of Duty.

I really don't care about that.. I've had what feels like cheper deaths my self when one guy narcs me and everyone else has LRMS in an open arse place like Caustic, But like was previously stated, it is not the tactic that bothers me mostly, (but come on.. who the hell REALLY waits for a Conquest drop, only to death ball in it? Are you freaken serious? Against a set of playes not looking to death ball? come on Lord.) It is the arrogance and the grade school bully mentality that follows with it.

If it is not a socially bad thing.. I have the name of one such player that has shown reprehencable sportsmenship and I shall post it if it is deemed approprate. How ever I shall wait for a yay or nay on it as I come from a culture in the military where if someone messes up, you blast them in public for their mistake. I understand this may not be the case in some places, SO i will leave it up to you.

Personally I think PGI should make a form of player on player policing like Riot does for League of Legends, where Trolls and other reprehencable people are temporarily banned from playing.. or forced to drop with other trolls only.. depending on the rating others give them. While this seems like it could be abused, I'm sure numbers will speak for them selves if any one tries to "counter report" the reporter. Hell even have the players them selves judge who gets punished in this system like LoL's does..

Edit: fixed some spelling errors.

I know players on the Lords... and while there are some team that are people that will go with the lowest common denominator tactic (looking at some of those teams right now that are rushing lights first wave and then following it up with assaults...) the thing about good teams (or at least teams with strong and intelligent pilots) is that they don't need a simple tactic to win.

No the lords members will take long range, damaging stuff... find how to use it to it's maximum potential and do what they can to focus that fire and bring mechs down at an alarming rate (there are other strong teams like that, or clumps of players who work well within a team setting). I have members in my unit who are amazing powerhouses when it comes to kills and damage and have translated their skill not just from one range of assault but to whatever it is that is necessary to win. I'm really proud of those individuals.

The difference between my unit and the lords is that we don't have each and every player vetted for the same type of warrior competence. We accept new warriors and try to train and build them up. We focus on honour and respect and building each other up. As a commander I've been a bit rough to some of my CJF peers (and I apologize... I really do. I'm a work in progress) but I try to be respectful and point out when people do well and when my team does well... I mean really well... I mean I'm sorry but we just kind of stepped over you on our way to the sea kind of way... we'll keep our mouths shut and if the other team says something to us we'll speak respectfully back to them and if we bomb in the total opposite way... we'll speak first and tell the other team we respect their work (if they deserve our response) and will work on making sure it won't happen again... Oh and either way we rest assured that we gave a serious honorable fight that isn't one of just humping any particular "meta" or just going with the lowest common denominator tactic. Some teams just aren't better than that (regardless of individual piloting skill)... that's just not Clan Diamond Shark : Diamond Shiver.

Seyla.