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[KuroNyra]

speedy mechanic, on 18 December 2014 - 05:10 PM, said:

Understood. We'll get another one in due time

And we will gladly help you get one.... If you require our assistance.

[Dirgez]

Commander A9, on 18 December 2014 - 09:11 PM, said:

Lord, if we could get the damn unaffiliated public players to stop attacking other Clans, things might be a little more smooth.

Damn Jade Falcon PUGs are attacking Wolf territory as we speak, regardless of whatever agreement we manage to hammer out.

Yeah, that's what I was pointing out earlier. You can't underestimate the mob and this will only get worse as CW picks up steam... (pun intended)

[Ancient Demise]

Commander A9, on 18 December 2014 - 09:11 PM, said:

Lord, if we could get the damn unaffiliated public players to stop attacking other Clans, things might be a little more smooth.

Damn Jade Falcon PUGs are attacking Wolf territory as we speak, regardless of whatever agreement we manage to hammer out.

I blame the PGI funded ilKhan.

[KoshiManiac]

Gyrok, on 16 December 2014 - 11:21 AM, said:

You have cataphracts?

Hey Gyrok please post this curbstomp on youtube.

[KoshiManiac]

Kanika, on 16 December 2014 - 03:43 PM, said:

I think some units need to adapt a "No posting on the official forums" policy to prevent the troublemakers in there units from causing issues.

Or is this just signs that some units lack command and control of there own members? There is a kick button for a reason, please use without guilt.

This should be common sense. When I am in a heated moment I type it out and 90% of the time I delete it so I said what I wanted to without making things worse.

[hybrid black]

KoshiManiac, on 21 December 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

Hey Gyrok please post this curbstomp on youtube.

he cant because he wont do it

[IraqiWalker]

hybrid black, on 21 December 2014 - 05:26 PM, said:

he cant because he wont do it

Why are you flying a Davion flag now?

Also, to be honest, because YOU won't do it.

I think the suggestion that both of you jump into a trial mech and 1v1 one another is the best one. Probably the trial Nova (As suggested by Lily, I think)

[Repasy Cooper]

1v1 ToG style ***** *****. Lol.

[IraqiWalker]

Repasy, on 21 December 2014 - 09:14 PM, said:

1v1 ToG style ***** *****. Lol.

ToG?

[Repasy Cooper]

Trial of Grievance

[Mordin Ashe]

I haven't noticed any major incidents lately. Can we say the turce is working?

[Antonius Rex]

Gentlemen,

I have a proposal for both Clan Wolf and Clan Ghost Bear.

To be clear, I don't speak for all of Ghost Bear, but I do speak for The Mercstar Alliance. Though we have talked a bit about this concept with our allies and suspect they will be onboard.

Essentially, [-MS-] and much of Ghost Bear would like to be able to engage Clan Jade Falcon in honourable combat. On the flip side, we don't really want to go to war with our Wolf brothers to do it, especially seeing as we just spent a week finally building peace between our two great Clans.

One aspect, is that we are getting bored with our 98ish% win rate and want to get some "comp" games against some high tiered opponents in the CW Clan theatre. Specifically SJR and Lords. Kinda sad that Lords had around half of their top 12 Comp players break away before we got to get over there to play them but alas, here we are.

The other big thing of interest to us is opening up another set of attack/defense lanes for all of Ghost Bear. Unlike our Spheroid compatriots which have 4 or even 6 different attack lanes, we are limited in how many theatres we can fight in a time. In part, due to the Bear/Wolf ceasefire. Not only that, but we also never really get any good clan defense options, as for the most part each clan is more than capable of holding their own borders.

So, I would like to start a dialogue between Wolf and Bear on how such an arrangement could come about in peaceful terms.

One of the ideas we had here over at [-MS-] I will outline below:
Day 1, CGB takes a wolf planet.
Day 2 CGB takes the next wolf planet, Wolf takes back the planet from Day 1.
Day 3, CGB takes the next planet, Wolf takes back the planet from Day 2
Day 4 ...
Day 5 CGB pushes into Falcon Territory. Wolf takes the last CGB planet behind them.

Pros:
- Avoid a conflict with Mercstar and possibly all of Ghost Bear
- Gain political favour for being willing to work with us. Could be useful in the future
- It gives the Bears another release valve (target) to send their warriors at. When Mercstar and her allies are unified on the Bear front, we pretty much just take every planet available to us. It's kinda hard not to attack Wolf just for something to do when our other 2 front lines are both 11-0 in our favour (the only thing stopping us is the Wolf/Bear ceasefire, which we helped broker).
- We would be making a record for one of the biggest planet swaps in CW history.
- Give an extra attack lane for the pesky Green Turkey pugs to attack, rather than having them continue to attack Wolf even though a ceasefire was agreed to between the major parties.
- If Wolf ever got into another war with the Falcons, Bear would be ready and able to assist their Wolf friends.
- If Wolf and Bear ever went to war in the future, Bear would have an extra attack/defense lane to worry about, weakening their general position.
- It will give Clan Ghost Bear another target other than simply pounding away at the FRR for lack of better targets, which can only help Wolf in its race to reach Terra first.
- Wolf units cleaning up planets as we go would get to put their name up on planets that would otherwise remain unclaimed by any of the major Clan Wolf factions. Examples include Paulus Prime, Drask's Den, Crellacor, Sigurd, Oberon VI, Placida, and Blackstone.
- More Salmon for nearly everyone.

Cons:
- Would avoid a possible conflict with Mercstar and possibly the rest of Clan Ghost Bear (I guess some people may want that).
- Splits the attention of the Clans over all, but only to a small degree. We know which two are mommy and daddy out of the 4 clan family. Wolf and Bear are destined for greatness, together in our quest for Terra.
- Would take minor amounts of effort to actually take the planets for both sides. But at least for Wolf, the value of getting unit names on otherwise unclaimable planets totally off sets that.
- Less Salmon for the Green Turkeys

I guess lastly, can you think of any good reasons not to let the Bears at those {Godwin's Law} loving, oddly coloured turkeys?

Hope all of this doesn't sound too crazy, but I figured I would outline Mercstar's desires/intentions before our contract shifts and we come back to Clan space on Thursday. Wouldn't want to touch off World Clan War III accidentally

Hope to hear from some of the Clan Wolf Leadership soon, with heartfelt dreams of continuing our partnership in the quest for glory and salmon.

Antonius Rex,
of the Swords of Kentares,
and the Mercstar Alliance.

Almost forgot to add the official Mercstar sign off for diplomatic communiques.



From Elissa to Crossing to Taga, the sun never sets on the Mercstar Alliance.

Edited by Antonius Rex, 22 December 2014 - 03:25 AM.

[CyclonerM]

I only speak for myself:

What about.. Neg?

If you did not notice, the FRR has got some new good merc units and they have been counterattacking heavily on the Wolf/Bear front. If you really want to do something else too (which is fine) a Trial of Possession in Skirmish to keep your claws honed sounds like a Clan-like and efficient solution..

If you mercs are actually trying to be Clansmen..

Edited by CyclonerM, 22 December 2014 - 03:44 AM.

[IraqiWalker]

Ok, why are so many Bears flying Davion colors? Was there a big transition that I missed?

[Jaroth Corbett]

They are mercs. They fly whatever sigil they want when they want. It could be because of our lack of attack avenues as they just pointed out. Davion has a lot of AOs right now so it does seem more appealing.

[IraqiWalker]

Jaroth Corbett, on 22 December 2014 - 03:52 AM, said:

They are mercs.

That's the part I wasn't sure about. I also wasn't aware that the Merc Star Alliance was the one that did the shift. I just noticed a few bear players on Davion.

Also, guys for the record, Davion has a non-aggression pact with Steiner, so please don't attack Steiner worlds while flying the Davion flag. However, feel free to krump pretty much everyone else.

Edited by IraqiWalker, 22 December 2014 - 04:54 AM.

[Kassad86]

Commander A9, on 18 December 2014 - 09:11 PM, said:

Lord, if we could get the damn unaffiliated public players to stop attacking other Clans, things might be a little more smooth.

Damn Jade Falcon PUGs are attacking Wolf territory as we speak, regardless of whatever agreement we manage to hammer out.

Jade Falcon's
not even once

[Repasy Cooper]

Antonius Rex, on 22 December 2014 - 01:39 AM, said:

Gentlemen,

I have a proposal for both Clan Wolf and Clan Ghost Bear.

To be clear, I don't speak for all of Ghost Bear, but I do speak for The Mercstar Alliance. Though we have talked a bit about this concept with our allies and suspect they will be onboard.

Essentially, [-MS-] and much of Ghost Bear would like to be able to engage Clan Jade Falcon in honourable combat. On the flip side, we don't really want to go to war with our Wolf brothers to do it, especially seeing as we just spent a week finally building peace between our two great Clans.

One aspect, is that we are getting bored with our 98ish% win rate and want to get some "comp" games against some high tiered opponents in the CW Clan theatre. Specifically SJR and Lords. Kinda sad that Lords had around half of their top 12 Comp players break away before we got to get over there to play them but alas, here we are.

The other big thing of interest to us is opening up another set of attack/defense lanes for all of Ghost Bear. Unlike our Spheroid compatriots which have 4 or even 6 different attack lanes, we are limited in how many theatres we can fight in a time. In part, due to the Bear/Wolf ceasefire. Not only that, but we also never really get any good clan defense options, as for the most part each clan is more than capable of holding their own borders.

So, I would like to start a dialogue between Wolf and Bear on how such an arrangement could come about in peaceful terms.

One of the ideas we had here over at [-MS-] I will outline below:
Day 1, CGB takes a wolf planet.
Day 2 CGB takes the next wolf planet, Wolf takes back the planet from Day 1.
Day 3, CGB takes the next planet, Wolf takes back the planet from Day 2
Day 4 ...
Day 5 CGB pushes into Falcon Territory. Wolf takes the last CGB planet behind them.

Pros:
- Avoid a conflict with Mercstar and possibly all of Ghost Bear
- Gain political favour for being willing to work with us. Could be useful in the future
- It gives the Bears another release valve (target) to send their warriors at. When Mercstar and her allies are unified on the Bear front, we pretty much just take every planet available to us. It's kinda hard not to attack Wolf just for something to do when our other 2 front lines are both 11-0 in our favour (the only thing stopping us is the Wolf/Bear ceasefire, which we helped broker).
- We would be making a record for one of the biggest planet swaps in CW history.
- Give an extra attack lane for the pesky Green Turkey pugs to attack, rather than having them continue to attack Wolf even though a ceasefire was agreed to between the major parties.
- If Wolf ever got into another war with the Falcons, Bear would be ready and able to assist their Wolf friends.
- If Wolf and Bear ever went to war in the future, Bear would have an extra attack/defense lane to worry about, weakening their general position.
- It will give Clan Ghost Bear another target other than simply pounding away at the FRR for lack of better targets, which can only help Wolf in its race to reach Terra first.
- Wolf units cleaning up planets as we go would get to put their name up on planets that would otherwise remain unclaimed by any of the major Clan Wolf factions. Examples include Paulus Prime, Drask's Den, Crellacor, Sigurd, Oberon VI, Placida, and Blackstone.
- More Salmon for nearly everyone.

Cons:
- Would avoid a possible conflict with Mercstar and possibly the rest of Clan Ghost Bear (I guess some people may want that).
- Splits the attention of the Clans over all, but only to a small degree. We know which two are mommy and daddy out of the 4 clan family. Wolf and Bear are destined for greatness, together in our quest for Terra.
- Would take minor amounts of effort to actually take the planets for both sides. But at least for Wolf, the value of getting unit names on otherwise unclaimable planets totally off sets that.
- Less Salmon for the Green Turkeys

I guess lastly, can you think of any good reasons not to let the Bears at those {Godwin's Law} loving, oddly coloured turkeys?

Hope all of this doesn't sound too crazy, but I figured I would outline Mercstar's desires/intentions before our contract shifts and we come back to Clan space on Thursday. Wouldn't want to touch off World Clan War III accidentally

Hope to hear from some of the Clan Wolf Leadership soon, with heartfelt dreams of continuing our partnership in the quest for glory and salmon.

Antonius Rex,
of the Swords of Kentares,
and the Mercstar Alliance.

Almost forgot to add the official Mercstar sign off for diplomatic communiques.



From Elissa to Crossing to Taga, the sun never sets on the Mercstar Alliance.

I have an ammendment. Seeing as this plan would effectively cause Jade Falcon to lose a territory and Ghost Bear to gain one, I believe a more diplomatic solution may be the following:

Day 1, CGB takes a wolf planet.
Day 2 CGB takes the next wolf planet, Wolf takes back the planet from Day 1.
Day 3, CGB takes the next planet, Wolf takes back the planet from Day 2.
Day 4 CGB takes next planet (now has a border with Jade Falcon), Wolf takes back planet from Day 3.
Day 5 Wolf takes a Ghost Bear planet of choice (other than one lost on Day 4).

This solution essentially calls for Ghost Bear and Wolf to swap a planet each. Ghost Bear would then have it's requested border with Jade Falcon, and both the Falcons and Wolves would retain a balance in territory. I suggest this amendment for 2 reasons:

1: If the arrangement requires Jade Falcon to lose a territory on Day 5, their consent is required. This would effectively make it an arrangement between Ghost Bear and Wolf AND Jade Falcon.
2: If Jade Falcon and Ghost Bear want to joust, this proposal leaves Ghost Bear with a single isolated system. If Jade Falcon fought and won the system, we'd have to spend another 5 days organizing this. So I assume this means that Jade Falcon will initially lose a system anyways, and this system would be the contested system that the two clans fight on, with occupation swapping back and forth possibly each day. But the contesting between Falcons and Bears is a separate matter, so I believe the amendment keeps THIS matter a matter for Bears and Wolves.

I don't speak for Ghost Bear at all, I consider myself of Snow Raven. But I believe that if Ghost Bear and Wolf decide to implement this arrangement, this is the most diplomatic way to swap territory as is currently possible. I say so respectfully, of course.

[Gyrok]

Antonius Rex, on 22 December 2014 - 01:39 AM, said:

Gentlemen,

I have a proposal for both Clan Wolf and Clan Ghost Bear.

To be clear, I don't speak for all of Ghost Bear, but I do speak for The Mercstar Alliance. Though we have talked a bit about this concept with our allies and suspect they will be onboard.

Essentially, [-MS-] and much of Ghost Bear would like to be able to engage Clan Jade Falcon in honourable combat. On the flip side, we don't really want to go to war with our Wolf brothers to do it, especially seeing as we just spent a week finally building peace between our two great Clans.

One aspect, is that we are getting bored with our 98ish% win rate and want to get some "comp" games against some high tiered opponents in the CW Clan theatre. Specifically SJR and Lords. Kinda sad that Lords had around half of their top 12 Comp players break away before we got to get over there to play them but alas, here we are.

The other big thing of interest to us is opening up another set of attack/defense lanes for all of Ghost Bear. Unlike our Spheroid compatriots which have 4 or even 6 different attack lanes, we are limited in how many theatres we can fight in a time. In part, due to the Bear/Wolf ceasefire. Not only that, but we also never really get any good clan defense options, as for the most part each clan is more than capable of holding their own borders.

So, I would like to start a dialogue between Wolf and Bear on how such an arrangement could come about in peaceful terms.

One of the ideas we had here over at [-MS-] I will outline below:
Day 1, CGB takes a wolf planet.
Day 2 CGB takes the next wolf planet, Wolf takes back the planet from Day 1.
Day 3, CGB takes the next planet, Wolf takes back the planet from Day 2
Day 4 ...
Day 5 CGB pushes into Falcon Territory. Wolf takes the last CGB planet behind them.

Pros:
- Avoid a conflict with Mercstar and possibly all of Ghost Bear
- Gain political favour for being willing to work with us. Could be useful in the future
- It gives the Bears another release valve (target) to send their warriors at. When Mercstar and her allies are unified on the Bear front, we pretty much just take every planet available to us. It's kinda hard not to attack Wolf just for something to do when our other 2 front lines are both 11-0 in our favour (the only thing stopping us is the Wolf/Bear ceasefire, which we helped broker).
- We would be making a record for one of the biggest planet swaps in CW history.
- Give an extra attack lane for the pesky Green Turkey pugs to attack, rather than having them continue to attack Wolf even though a ceasefire was agreed to between the major parties.
- If Wolf ever got into another war with the Falcons, Bear would be ready and able to assist their Wolf friends.
- If Wolf and Bear ever went to war in the future, Bear would have an extra attack/defense lane to worry about, weakening their general position.
- It will give Clan Ghost Bear another target other than simply pounding away at the FRR for lack of better targets, which can only help Wolf in its race to reach Terra first.
- Wolf units cleaning up planets as we go would get to put their name up on planets that would otherwise remain unclaimed by any of the major Clan Wolf factions. Examples include Paulus Prime, Drask's Den, Crellacor, Sigurd, Oberon VI, Placida, and Blackstone.
- More Salmon for nearly everyone.

Cons:
- Would avoid a possible conflict with Mercstar and possibly the rest of Clan Ghost Bear (I guess some people may want that).
- Splits the attention of the Clans over all, but only to a small degree. We know which two are mommy and daddy out of the 4 clan family. Wolf and Bear are destined for greatness, together in our quest for Terra.
- Would take minor amounts of effort to actually take the planets for both sides. But at least for Wolf, the value of getting unit names on otherwise unclaimable planets totally off sets that.
- Less Salmon for the Green Turkeys

I guess lastly, can you think of any good reasons not to let the Bears at those {Godwin's Law} loving, oddly coloured turkeys?

Hope all of this doesn't sound too crazy, but I figured I would outline Mercstar's desires/intentions before our contract shifts and we come back to Clan space on Thursday. Wouldn't want to touch off World Clan War III accidentally

Hope to hear from some of the Clan Wolf Leadership soon, with heartfelt dreams of continuing our partnership in the quest for glory and salmon.

Antonius Rex,
of the Swords of Kentares,
and the Mercstar Alliance.

Almost forgot to add the official Mercstar sign off for diplomatic communiques.



From Elissa to Crossing to Taga, the sun never sets on the Mercstar Alliance.

I would be willing to entertain discussion about said matter...though details would need to be hammered out...

[gcmdr chris]

+1 to the idea, just allow us in the end to take elissa, as you guys stay on one of ours, possibly 2 plantets. 1-1 is fair quiaff?