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[Aresye]

To make sure everything's clear. The Lyran/Wolf ceasefire was discussed and agreed upon at the time when the Falcons were still attacking us, and it wasn't clear if/when we would get the world back that CGB took.

Definitely not anywhere near the beginning.

[3rdworld]

Aresye, on 23 December 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Some mighty strong fighting words coming from someone who's faction can barely take a planet without the help of MercStar.

We will be back Thursday

[TKSax]

Aresye, on 23 December 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Some mighty strong fighting words coming from someone who's faction can barely take a planet without the help of MercStar.

You might wanna check the cycles this past week Aresye, Ghost Bear has had no issues taking 1 or more planet per attack round. In fact I believe we are closer than Terra the anyone else right now....

Edited by TKSax, 23 December 2014 - 08:28 PM.

[IraqiWalker]

3rdworld, on 23 December 2014 - 07:03 PM, said:

We will be back Thursday

Awww, I was hoping the Mercstar Alliance would stay with Davion for a bit longer. We enjoyed having you guys around. But I guess a mercenary's life doesn't leave room for settling down.
Good luck, and good fortune to you mighty mercenaries. Look forward to seeing you on the field of battle.

Edited by IraqiWalker, 23 December 2014 - 08:47 PM.

[Odins Fist]

So. it was DISCUSSED... but not implemented before said contact ended..

Ok. CONFIRMED..!!

[Kalendra RA]

Odins Fist, on 23 December 2014 - 04:47 PM, said:

At this point Clan Ghost Bear had (1), that's ONE I.S. front and Clan Smoke Jaguar on their Flank fighting for their lives against the FRR.

As of day three of CW Ghost Bear had two IS fronts, no longer had an attack vector on CSJ, and was curbstomping both FRR and Kurita while beating some sense into Wolf in retribution for Wolf attacks on Ghost Bear. As of day four, the ceasefire with Wolf was enacted, and the only subsequent Wolf/Ghost Bear conflict was instigated by Wolf units and a Wolf unit that switched to Ghost Bear. Since then, Ghost Bear has been easily dealing with two fronts, while Wolf has gotten beat up by one of the smallest factions in the game, and turned and run from Steiner with its tail between its legs.

[Gyrok]

SirPseudonymous, on 24 December 2014 - 12:00 AM, said:

As of day three of CW Ghost Bear had two IS fronts, no longer had an attack vector on CSJ, and was curbstomping both FRR and Kurita while beating some sense into Wolf in retribution for Wolf attacks on Ghost Bear. As of day four, the ceasefire with Wolf was enacted, and the only subsequent Wolf/Ghost Bear conflict was instigated by Wolf units and a Wolf unit that switched to Ghost Bear. Since then, Ghost Bear has been easily dealing with two fronts, while Wolf has gotten beat up by one of the smallest factions in the game, and turned and run from Steiner with its tail between its legs.

Let us be clear, no one ran from steiner. An agreement was made without consent of the rest of the group but was presented as though they had authority to do so. In order to not further stress relations, things have been held up to this point. However, make no mistake, that will not happen again. CWDG will not comply with pacts made without our consent, and all wolf galaxies are in agreement on this point. Also, the smallest faction in the game held you guys 2 rounds without a planet conquest, and it is not the house units, but the contracted mercs running 7-8 separate 12 mans that actually carried the push.

So, let us not kid ourselves, shall we?

[Kalendra RA]

Gyrok, on 24 December 2014 - 12:53 AM, said:

the smallest faction in the game held you guys 2 rounds without a planet conquest

Ghost Bear took a planet from CSJ in cycle two, and hasn't had a CSJ planet open for attack since. The third smallest, however, knocked Wolf senseless for several cycles before you worked out a ceasefire with them. Wolf has numbers and not much else.

[IraqiWalker]

SirPseudonymous, on 24 December 2014 - 01:04 AM, said:

Ghost Bear took a planet from CSJ in cycle two, and hasn't had a CSJ planet open for attack since. The third smallest, however, knocked Wolf senseless for several cycles before you worked out a ceasefire with them. Wolf has numbers and not much else.

If you're talking about Steiner, they are actually the third LARGEST faction in the game, in terms of player count.

Edited by IraqiWalker, 24 December 2014 - 01:08 AM.

[SickerthanSars]

SirPseudonymous, on 24 December 2014 - 01:04 AM, said:

Ghost Bear took a planet from CSJ in cycle two, and hasn't had a CSJ planet open for attack since. The third smallest, however, knocked Wolf senseless for several cycles before you worked out a ceasefire with them. Wolf has numbers and not much else.

this actually made me laugh, almost as much as the "Clans are OP" IS puggies nonsense

Edited by SickerthanSars, 24 December 2014 - 04:29 AM.

[IraqiWalker]

SickerthanSars, on 24 December 2014 - 04:28 AM, said:

this actually made me laugh, almost as much as the "Clans are OP" IS puggies nonsense

It shouldn't make you laugh, because it's true.

Right now clan wolf stands as the weakest of the clans, and the least feared. This is not said in aggression or as an insult, but clan wolf needs to get it's affairs in order. You guys have numbers, good for you, but that's it. Any progress you make on the FRR front is very slow, and you even managed to lose planets to the FRR. Congratulations on taking 3 days to get back to where you were, THREE DAYS AGO.

Also, don't brag about taking a planet from LORDS. The fact that you just had more chow to feed into the grinder isn't impressive. The Steiners have been holding the Falcons at bay for a lot longer than you have been flirting with them. Try and stand up to a proper offensive thrust from CJF, and then you can brag. Even the bears have been smacking you around every now and then. It's part of why the ceasefire was signed. Because if it wasn't you'd have had too many fronts, and the bears (so far, unanimously agreed upon as the most successful of the clans), would have assimilated you.

Those words might be harsh, but you have to expect that. You guys decided to fly the wolf flag, everyone expected more from you than the others, because of the legacy, and reputation you're supposed to shoulder. You guys need to stop trashtalking, and start focusing on targets properly. Either krump one clan at a time, or get your affairs, and units in order, and start functioning as part of the group. By the way, that last part goes out to ALL the clans. Some of you have been more organized than others, but seriously, friendly rivalry is nice, just don't let it get in the way of a great experience for all.


Bears, unless you find a way to do it peacefully, you're gonna have a full on war with CJG VERY soon. You're taking all their invasion corridors from them. Talk to them, or get ready to get bitten.

Now if some of the forum math is correct. If you guys can get your affairs in order, you'll reach Terra within 63-ish days.

[Yozzman]

Popcorn?

You guys have to take in account that there are just so few people reading this...

[CyclonerM]

IraqiWalker, on 24 December 2014 - 04:57 AM, said:

Right now clan wolf stands as the weakest of the clans, and the least feared. This is not said in aggression or as an insult, but clan wolf needs to get it's affairs in order. You guys have numbers, good for you, but that's it. Any progress you make on the FRR front is very slow, and you even managed to lose planets to the FRR. Congratulations on taking 3 days to get back to where you were, THREE DAYS AGO.

Well, three days ago we did not have The Edge, and today we are going to take Liezen as well.
And did you forget the Bears lost a planet to the FRR as well? It seems that everyone forgets it. Or maybe people just expect less from them?

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Also, don't brag about taking a planet from LORDS. The fact that you just had more chow to feed into the grinder isn't impressive. The Steiners have been holding the Falcons at bay for a lot longer than you have been flirting with them. Try and stand up to a proper offensive thrust from CJF, and then you can brag. Even the bears have been smacking you around every now and then. It's part of why the ceasefire was signed. Because if it wasn't you'd have had too many fronts, and the bears (so far, unanimously agreed upon as the most successful of the clans), would have assimilated you.

Numbers is a quality on its own. If they are a good team but very small team is not our problem. They chose to troll us taking Butte Hold and we retook it. Period.

And why everyone must be so acid about us trying to stick to the goal of the whole op. Revival while other Clans were busy trolling and attacking us like bored children? We have always been focused on Terra, the goal of our return, and this is one of the main reasons of the cease-fire.

[operatorZ]

IraqiWalker, on 24 December 2014 - 04:57 AM, said:

It shouldn't make you laugh, because it's true.

Right now clan wolf stands as the weakest of the clans, and the least feared. This is not said in aggression or as an insult, but clan wolf needs to get it's affairs in order. You guys have numbers, good for you, but that's it. Any progress you make on the FRR front is very slow, and you even managed to lose planets to the FRR. Congratulations on taking 3 days to get back to where you were, THREE DAYS AGO.

Also, don't brag about taking a planet from LORDS. The fact that you just had more chow to feed into the grinder isn't impressive. The Steiners have been holding the Falcons at bay for a lot longer than you have been flirting with them. Try and stand up to a proper offensive thrust from CJF, and then you can brag. Even the bears have been smacking you around every now and then. It's part of why the ceasefire was signed. Because if it wasn't you'd have had too many fronts, and the bears (so far, unanimously agreed upon as the most successful of the clans), would have assimilated you.

Those words might be harsh, but you have to expect that. You guys decided to fly the wolf flag, everyone expected more from you than the others, because of the legacy, and reputation you're supposed to shoulder. You guys need to stop trashtalking, and start focusing on targets properly. Either krump one clan at a time, or get your affairs, and units in order, and start functioning as part of the group. By the way, that last part goes out to ALL the clans. Some of you have been more organized than others, but seriously, friendly rivalry is nice, just don't let it get in the way of a great experience for all.


Bears, unless you find a way to do it peacefully, you're gonna have a full on war with CJG VERY soon. You're taking all their invasion corridors from them. Talk to them, or get ready to get bitten.

Now if some of the forum math is correct. If you guys can get your affairs in order, you'll reach Terra within 63-ish days.

blah blah blah blah.....

[IraqiWalker]

CyclonerM, on 24 December 2014 - 05:23 AM, said:

Well, three days ago we did not have The Edge, and today we are going to take Liezen as well.
And did you forget the Bears lost a planet to the FRR as well? It seems that everyone forgets it. Or maybe people just expect less from them?


Numbers is a quality on its own. If they are a good team but very small team is not our problem. They chose to troll us taking Butte Hold and we retook it. Period.

And why everyone must be so acid about us trying to stick to the goal of the whole op. Revival while other Clans were busy trolling and attacking us like bored children? We have always been focused on Terra, the goal of our return, and this is one of the main reasons of the cease-fire.

Notice how I said the last part was aimed at ALL the clans? That's because they also need to get their collective heads in proper order and start pushing. Some of them having been more successful than others. I needed to say this specifically to a wolf pilot, because bragging while your faction is not really doing what it should be doing, is not a good reflection on the faction or the pilot.

Yes the bears lost a planet to the FRR, but that wasn't a bear that made that post.


As for Liezen, That's where you guys were 3 days ago (or was it 4), I was defending it back then.

Numbers a Quality all it's own is something I firmly believe in, but when that pilot was bragging about taking the planet from the Lords (in a previous thread, I let it slip back then, until their post here) as if it was done through zellbriggen or fair combat, is another bad reflection. Using numbers is a smart tactic, it wins planets, and it gets the job done. Sure the elite teams might be a thorn here or there, but throw a 100 conscripts at them, and you bog them down, and choke them with your own dead, until they can't do anything but watch the planet get taken over.

It's proper strategic thinking: If you can't take the place through a fair fight, drown them in dudes until they die of it.

operatorZ, on 24 December 2014 - 06:00 AM, said:

blah blah blah blah.....

This is what I'm to expect of the "pups" that fly the red wolf flag? Glad to see you're not paying attention.

[CyclonerM]

IraqiWalker, on 24 December 2014 - 06:08 AM, said:

Numbers a Quality all it's own is something I firmly believe in, but when that pilot was bragging about taking the planet from the Lords (in a previous thread, I let it slip back then, until their post here) as if it was done through zellbriggen or fair combat, is another bad reflection. Using numbers is a smart tactic, it wins planets, and it gets the job done. Sure the elite teams might be a thorn here or there, but throw a 100 conscripts at them, and you bog them down, and choke them with your own dead, until they can't do anything but watch the planet get taken over.

It's proper strategic thinking: If you can't take the place through a fair fight, drown them in dudes until they die of it.

The Lords are not known for fair tactics. I heard more than a few units are quite familiar with the JJ esploit. And i am sure you are not so naive to believe the Lords would ever fight honorably, following Zellbrigen. They are not even Clansmen, they are just merc trolls, even if good

[operatorZ]

IraqiWalker, on 24 December 2014 - 06:08 AM, said:

Notice how I said the last part was aimed at ALL the clans? That's because they also need to get their collective heads in proper order and start pushing. Some of them having been more successful than others. I needed to say this specifically to a wolf pilot, because bragging while your faction is not really doing what it should be doing, is not a good reflection on the faction or the pilot.

Yes the bears lost a planet to the FRR, but that wasn't a bear that made that post.


As for Liezen, That's where you guys were 3 days ago (or was it 4), I was defending it back then.

Numbers a Quality all it's own is something I firmly believe in, but when that pilot was bragging about taking the planet from the Lords (in a previous thread, I let it slip back then, until their post here) as if it was done through zellbriggen or fair combat, is another bad reflection. Using numbers is a smart tactic, it wins planets, and it gets the job done. Sure the elite teams might be a thorn here or there, but throw a 100 conscripts at them, and you bog them down, and choke them with your own dead, until they can't do anything but watch the planet get taken over.

It's proper strategic thinking: If you can't take the place through a fair fight, drown them in dudes until they die of it.



This is what I'm to expect of the "pups" that fly the red wolf flag? Glad to see you're not paying attention.

dude...you are trying waaaaaaaaay to hard right now....

[IraqiWalker]

CyclonerM, on 24 December 2014 - 06:14 AM, said:

The Lords are not known for fair tactics. I heard more than a few units are quite familiar with the JJ esploit. And i am sure you are not so naive to believe the Lords would ever fight honorably, following Zellbrigen. They are not even Clansmen, they are just merc trolls, even if good

We can agree on most of that. I do know however that they routinely shoot their opponents in the face really well, so they are a strong force. One that can turn defensive engagements into a full on route where they are having a turkey shoot at the enemy's spawn point. So they're good.

Bragging about taking a planet from them when the braggart didn't have to face them at their best (in this case single drops, not multiples), is in poor taste. Now if they had fought and taken the planet by full on assaults against lords, and nothing but lords, that's a different matter. Hell, I'd help them throw the party. Get you some good wine from the FWL, and the FRR will probably have some good Kegs of beer to supply as well.

operatorZ, on 24 December 2014 - 06:19 AM, said:

dude...you are trying waaaaaaaaay to hard right now....

Dude...you are contributing waaaaaaaaay too little right now.... (it's "too" not "to" very different meanings)

[operatorZ]

and this isn't grammar police online....but if you insist...

Do you even look at the map? you know the time lapse one pinned?

Do you even read the updates on the Stiener "news from the front" post?

It looks like you don't....because you are seriously misinformed on the state of the clans and clan wolf in particular...

we are kicking all your inner sphere asses....and those are facts jack...

you show up in our forum and start telling us how we are not kicking your ass? when the proof is literally right there in front of your face....

as I said ...you are trying way to hard to start something.

[Yozzman]

Bringing some more popcorn...