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[Kuritaclan]

Repasy, on 22 December 2014 - 02:04 PM, said:

Day 1, CGB takes a wolf planet.
Day 2 CGB takes the next wolf planet, Wolf takes back the planet from Day 1.
Day 3, CGB takes the next planet, Wolf takes back the planet from Day 2.
Day 4 CGB takes next planet (now has a border with Jade Falcon), Wolf takes back planet from Day 3.
Day 5 Wolf takes a Ghost Bear planet of choice (other than one lost on Day 4).

Problem of the above presented way is, when Planet one is done and Planet 2 is done, Planet one can't be attacked anymore, you only have the right to attack planet 2. This the current state of cw. I guess you will built up a corridor - the idea is good, but with current implementation you can't attack backline planets to get them back. You only can attack a special plantet mostly the one which got last into enemy hands. So to speak nopp.

I'm not against cooridors i would like to eat Kuris alive . But Yeah there is no way to do so to have it in the current state of cw implementation.

Edited by Kuritaclan, 22 December 2014 - 10:23 PM.

[lpmagic]

No one hear can speak for all of wolf. This would need to be talked about by the leaders of the respective units, and agreed to in principal by all. We have already seen how fractious behavior can happen when a group does not have all of its members on the same page, at least to a degree. CWM is a very good example, they went off the deep end. It would be wonderful if another butt hurt war could be avoided.

remember though, corridors are tough, you rely 100% on your friends to not attack you from all sides, and to be honest, the real impetus was for the MS and lords to hook up, MS is gone from GB, so I'm not totally sure they want a corridor, unless it's to terra.

[Antonius Rex]

Repasy, on 22 December 2014 - 02:04 PM, said:

I have an ammendment. Seeing as this plan would effectively cause Jade Falcon to lose a territory and Ghost Bear to gain one, I believe a more diplomatic solution may be the following:

Day 1, CGB takes a wolf planet.
Day 2 CGB takes the next wolf planet, Wolf takes back the planet from Day 1.
Day 3, CGB takes the next planet, Wolf takes back the planet from Day 2.
Day 4 CGB takes next planet (now has a border with Jade Falcon), Wolf takes back planet from Day 3.
Day 5 Wolf takes a Ghost Bear planet of choice (other than one lost on Day 4).

I should think that would work fine. Appreciate the feedback
I like that idea as GB can give you guys Elissa, in exchange for whatever planet ends up being our staging post into Turkey territory. It would probably end up making things a little easier on both sides, especially GB.

@ Ipmagic

Mercstar is taking another contract with Ghost Bear this Thursday. Whenever we are fighting for the clans, we will be fighting for Ghost Bear. When we fight for the Sphere, we are much more flexible as to who we will fight for. In fact, we are open to any serious contract offers from the Inner Sphere powers.

The whole idea stems from Mercstar's desire to both open up another attack/defense corridor for all of Ghost Bear, as well as be able to go up against some of the stronger competitive outfits within a reasonable distance of GB territory.

At the end of the day, only having 2 attack lanes for Ghost Bear is insufficient (3 base minus 1 due to Wolf/Bear Ceasefire = 2). We find ourselves with nothing to do as our current lanes into FRR and Kurita space all end up 11-0 in our favour. At least whenever Mercstar's might is there. Mercstar's imminent return coupled with us gaining a few new allies to bolster our war fronts has left us with a strange conundrum. Too many Bears, not enough Salmon.

So, we need another attack/defense lane, wherever we can get it. We would prefer not to have to find it within the territory of our Wolf brothers. We have reports of the tastiest Salmon being in Turkey territory, so we figure that is as good a place as any to start looking. Unfortunately, if we cannot find a peaceful way to get there, the only alternative could be looting wolf camp grounds. And I don't think you guys really want that.

[TKSax]

Rex,

Not to be a party pooper and of course I am not part of the CGBI leadership, but I have no desire to attack the Falcons I would rather see what happens if we can push to Terra.

But that is just one warriors opinion.

[Naglinator]

Frankly i like it when we attack each other. The freebirths give such little challenge. Always nice to sharpen teeth against falcons and bears.

[CyclonerM]

Naglinator, on 23 December 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

Frankly i like it when we attack each other. The freebirths give such little challenge. Always nice to sharpen teeth against falcons and bears.

Strange, i thought Crusader like you would be more eager to free the Inner Sphere..

[Naglinator]

Only under the Wolf banner my friend. I'm not a share bear

[Kalendra RA]

Antonius Rex, on 23 December 2014 - 01:39 AM, said:

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That wouldn't work. You take one planet, they take one planet, and then the next cycle your available attack target is the one they just took. You'd just waffle back and forth at the border, getting nowhere.

If you want to reach Jade Falcon, the only course is to subjugate Wolf, which would present little more difficulty than would be required to take worlds in your plan anyways. Wolf has about as much resistance as wet tissue paper: they can't even take FRR planets with all the FRR's attention focused on Ghost Bear most of the time, despite having no other fronts to worry about.

If Jade Falcon pushes on their end too, you'll meet up in half the time. Get QQ and CI's cooperation, and Wolf will be reduced to nothing inside a week.

Edited by SirPseudonymous, 23 December 2014 - 03:02 PM.

[Aresye]

SirPseudonymous, on 23 December 2014 - 03:01 PM, said:

That wouldn't work. You take one planet, they take one planet, and then the next cycle your available attack target is the one they just took. You'd just waffle back and forth at the border, getting nowhere.

If you want to reach Jade Falcon, the only course is to subjugate Wolf, which would present little more difficulty than would be required to take worlds in your plan anyways. Wolf has about as much resistance as wet tissue paper: they can't even take FRR planets with all the FRR's attention focused on Ghost Bear most of the time, despite having no other fronts to worry about.

If Jade Falcon pushes on their end too, you'll meet up in half the time. Get QQ and CI's cooperation, and Wolf will be reduced to nothing inside a week.

Some mighty strong fighting words coming from someone who's faction can barely take a planet without the help of MercStar.

[Kalendra RA]

Aresye, on 23 December 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Some mighty strong fighting words coming from someone who's faction can barely take a planet without the help of MercStar.

We've consistently taken two worlds per cycle, with only a few exceptions. Wolf only occasionally manages a single planet, while fighting on a single front.

[Odins Fist]

It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic to watch one Clan that was fighting on one front, ATTEMPT to bash on a Clan that was for the same period of time fighting on 4 fronts, 4 different aggressors.

Now they have opened up a front against an enemy that has Davion up their back door and they think they are leet.

"F"ing Precious..!!

[Kalendra RA]

Odins Fist, on 23 December 2014 - 04:00 PM, said:

It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic to watch one Clan that was fighting on one front, ATTEMPT to bash on a Clan that was for the same period of time fighting on 4 fronts, 4 different aggressors.

That describes neither of the clans involved. Wolf has a ceasefire with every neighboring faction but the FRR, and Ghost Bear has two fronts open. Wolf actually fought Jade Falcon for all of one cycle, and appears to have had a ceasefire, either formal or de facto, with Steiner from the very beginning. Ghost Bear has also been steamrolling Kurita from the very first cycle that front opened up, and Kurita has had no problem stalling out the entirety of CSJ until Mercstar jumped to Davion.

[Odins Fist]

Before OUR 7 day contract was up for a couple of days Clan Wolf was fighting against Steiner, Rasalhague, Clan Ghost Bear and Clan Jade Falcon.. At this point Clan Ghost Bear had (1), that's ONE I.S. front and Clan Smoke Jaguar on their Flank fighting for their lives against the FRR.

How do I know..?? I fought on ALL 4 Fronts..

Perhaps you forgot about the Day(s) that Jade Falcon was taking Butte Hold, a large element of Rogue and NOT rogue Ghost Bears taking a Wolf planet on the other flank.. All the while Wolf Fighting on both Steiner and FRR worlds.

That kinda slip your memory..???

SirPseudonymous, on 23 December 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

That describes neither of the clans involved. Wolf has a ceasefire ....with Steiner from the very beginning.

Ghost Bear has also been steamrolling Kurita from the very first cycle that front opened up, and Kurita has had no problem stalling out the entirety of CSJ until Mercstar jumped to Davion.

Did you say WOLF had a ceasefire with Steiner from the very begining..??
That's weird "I" helped taking Steiner holdings.. Hmmmmm..
Didn't hear about the Steiner ceasefire with WOlf, NOT ONCE.

Yep with Davion up Kurita's rear you must have a real tough time with Kurita.

Edited by Odins Fist, 23 December 2014 - 05:02 PM.

[Jaroth Corbett]

I am curious myself. To whom are you referring Odin's Fist?

[Odins Fist]

Jaroth Corbett, on 23 December 2014 - 04:49 PM, said:

I am curious myself. To whom are you referring Odin's Fist?

To Whom are you refering when you ask whom..???

[IraqiWalker]

Odins Fist, on 23 December 2014 - 04:47 PM, said:

Before OUR 7 day contract was up for a couple of days Clan Wolf was fighting against Steiner, Rasalhague, Clan Ghost Bear and Clan Jade Falcon.. At this point Clan Ghost Bear had (1), that's ONE I.S. front and Clan Smoke Jaguar on their Flank fighting for their lives against the FRR.

How do I know..?? I fought on ALL 4 Fronts..

Perhaps you forgot about the Day(s) that Jade Falcon was taking Butte Hold, a large element of Rogue and NOT rogue Ghost Bears taking a Wolf planet on the other flank.. All the while Wolf Fighting on both Steiner and FRR worlds.

That kinda slip your memory..???



Did you say WOLF had a ceasefire with Steiner from the very begining..??
That's weird "I" helped taking Steiner holdings.. Hmmmmm..
Didn't hear about the Steiner ceasefire with WOlf, NOT ONCE.

Yep with Davion up Kurita's rear you must have a real tough time with Kurita.

The Lyran/Wolf ceasefire was enacted a couple of days ago.

Jaroth Corbett, on 23 December 2014 - 04:49 PM, said:

I am curious myself. To whom are you referring Odin's Fist?

SirPseudonymous, on 23 December 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

That describes neither of the clans involved. Wolf has a ceasefire with every neighboring faction but the FRR, and Ghost Bear has two fronts open. Wolf actually fought Jade Falcon for all of one cycle, and appears to have had a ceasefire, either formal or de facto, with Steiner from the very beginning. Ghost Bear has also been steamrolling Kurita from the very first cycle that front opened up, and Kurita has had no problem stalling out the entirety of CSJ until Mercstar jumped to Davion.

[Odins Fist]

IraqiWalker, on 23 December 2014 - 05:05 PM, said:

The Lyran/Wolf ceasefire was enacted a couple of days ago.

Contract ended before that.

[Aresye]

To make sure everything's clear. The Lyran/Wolf ceasefire was discussed and agreed upon at the time when the Falcons were still attacking us, and it wasn't clear if/when we would get the world back that CGB took.

Definitely not anywhere near the beginning.

[3rdworld]

Aresye, on 23 December 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Some mighty strong fighting words coming from someone who's faction can barely take a planet without the help of MercStar.

We will be back Thursday

[TKSax]

Aresye, on 23 December 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Some mighty strong fighting words coming from someone who's faction can barely take a planet without the help of MercStar.

You might wanna check the cycles this past week Aresye, Ghost Bear has had no issues taking 1 or more planet per attack round. In fact I believe we are closer than Terra the anyone else right now....

Edited by TKSax, 23 December 2014 - 08:28 PM.