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[Oderint dum Metuant]

RustyBolts, on 18 December 2014 - 11:57 AM, said:

I agree with this, but as an attacker, I should not have to sit in the lobby for an hour waiting to attack because one faction does not have the bodies to defend either. If that happens, CW will dry up quick as people go back to the pug matches.

And that is not what i am suggesting, if there insufficient defenders in que ie 12 then the current conditions for turret games apply.

The only reason you don't get turret games is because enough people are defending.

[Hukkama]

RustyBolts, on 18 December 2014 - 12:38 PM, said:

You are correct. I appoligize, I was doing a lot of mutliQuoting and I lumped you in as a lord. However, it does not change my post in response to your post concerning their behavior being a violation of the ToS that they are accusing others of violating. And yes, I have screen shots so its up to PGI.

And those who dont think its acceptable tactic, let me put it this way. We have 30 minutes to kill the generator. If we choose to base rush and kill it in the first 5 minutes or the last 5 minutes, it does not matter. We have 30 minutes.

We did two waves of attacks that took out their gates and were starting the 3rd when they pushed out toward our spawn. They then want to acuse us of not attacking. They then sat on our spawn to kill our last wave. However, they are conviently leaving that out. Did we milk the clock? Yes. to make sure we were organized and trying to get ready. Because lets face it, if you are not organised the beating will be worse. I also explained my actions, so I will not go into that any more.



My appoligies. I saw Lurds and misread that. But it still applies to the Lords.

are you going to complain about KFC then? and their "group spam" or is your saltyness only at certain people

[RustyBolts]

Dracol, on 18 December 2014 - 12:34 PM, said:

So. um, ya.... I think you have me confused with someone else. I'm just an outside party putting up an observation. No allegiance to anybody currently aligned with clans.

Your false claim of my allegiance/behavior could be considered an insult and against the ToS.....

lol Trying to do this on a phone. My appologies, but my point still applies.

[Alwrathandabout42ninjas]

Speerit Ward, on 18 December 2014 - 08:12 AM, said:

Thread summary

• CJF came to this thread to attempt to shame clan wolf for a tactic they found distasteful.
  
• They draw the support of freebirths and extremists with an Axe to Grind. (Not you, CGB guy)
  
• The community at large...Rejects their rage and calls it a "Viable Tactic"
  
• Lords have now earned even more community distaste. GGCLOSE.
  
• End result- Just play the damn game and stop whining when someone games YOU with an cheap tactic like you have been doing for years.

To Be Fair Section: Guys, stop acting like defending the spawn is an honorable tactic. It's called INVASION mode. If you're not INVADING in INVASION mode, you really are hurting the game for everyone.

​In this case I think the ends justified the means. (If you're going to take our planets unprovoked, we're going to do anything we can to take them back)

But I wont stand for defending the tactic like it's something that should be employed every day. Dont forget, attacker dropships now have ALL ERLL.... So now this tactic would be OP and nasty.

Goodbye sweet thread, I'll not be visiting again.

This guy gets it haha.

[M4NTiC0R3X]

[RustyBolts]

Hukkama, on 18 December 2014 - 12:39 PM, said:

are you going to complain about KFC then? and their "group spam" or is your saltyness only at certain people

Nope it applies to them to. The difference I see is that they spam that, but they do not spam insults to other players. If they do then I have not seen it.

Edited by RustyBolts, 18 December 2014 - 12:43 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Krivvan, on 18 December 2014 - 11:47 AM, said:

As they were placed into 300 vs. 300 lobbies and the rest of the Persians fought the Greek turrets.

So really, you guys should have been able to funnel all of the Wolves into a choke point (the hot gates) and take them down 12 at a time. PGI needs to implement that system ASAP.

[TKSax]

if someone says GGclose inslults you well then... you need thicker skin, hell if anything anyone says in a online game insults you you need to grow up. If it is truley offensive and breaks ToS report and move on.

Greetings Programs
FORD TKSAX
GG FOUR WHEEL DRIVE

[CyclonerM]

TKSax, on 18 December 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

if someone says GGclose inslults you well then... you need thicker skin, hell if anything anyone says in a online game insults you you need to grow up. If it is truley offensive and breaks ToS report and move on.

Greetings Programs
FORD TKSAX
GG FOUR WHEEL DRIVE

It annoys me because i am tired of ignoring trolls

Hey, reporting them does not sound a bad idea after all..

Edited by CyclonerM, 18 December 2014 - 01:20 PM.

[RustyBolts]

Need to clear up something else also. Not all of our drops were against turrets. I did 6 drops last night and attempted 2 more. 2 were aginst lords, 1 against the 22d, 1 against a pug group and 2 against turrets. We also waited 30 minutes for two drops that we canceled

[Gyrok]

meteorol, on 18 December 2014 - 12:14 AM, said:

I'm neither part of SJR nor Lords, and i give a rats ass about CW/roleplay. It's just a new gamemode. If SJR violated the ToS they deserve to be punished for it just like those CW guys if they violated it.



"Clan base rushers" are playing the objective, while guys who don't "participite in combat" are avoiding to play the objective, just like CW did in this match.

Actually, there is some serious misdirection here, we opened a gate and engaged, then they drew out, and once they came to us we dropped quite a few of them, when they came back at us with most of wave 2, our guys who were back at spawn went and hit the back side gate on sulfur and were going to sneak in the back way, but when they were outnumbered there, I had them return to the main fight at the first gate.

Rather than base rush, we were engaging targets and holding position trying to kill as many as possible. The side effect of the attack taking longer than 3 minutes was much to the lament of the Lords, however, we were far from anything near a ToS violation. We were playing to win, or try our hardest to kill as many as possible before we went down.

Our strategy was no less valid than base rushing, just a different approach against a tough team, and we had many new recruits in group.

EDIT: stupid phone adding letters...

Edited by Gyrok, 18 December 2014 - 03:21 PM.

[HBizzle]

Krivvan, on 18 December 2014 - 01:35 AM, said:

Lords are also very individualistic in their opinions and actions. I personally don't like singling out and belittling opponents or doing 'psyops.'


I can't stop what other Falcons decide to do.

Unfortunately for you Krivvan the people you associate yourself with color other folks perception of who you are.

[Hukkama]

HBizzle, on 18 December 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

Unfortunately for you Krivvan the people you associate yourself with color other folks perception of who you are.

so you hate them all cause of a few bad apples? isnt there a term used for that when its applied to people in the real world?

[3rdworld]

Hukkama, on 18 December 2014 - 01:58 PM, said:

so you hate them all cause of a few bad apples? isnt there a term used for that when its applied to people in the real world?

Profiling, our airlines and police forces do it all the time. It would likely get me banned from the MWO forums to discuss its merits/shortfalls, so I am going to leave it at that.

[HBizzle]

Hukkama, on 18 December 2014 - 01:58 PM, said:

so you hate them all cause of a few bad apples? isnt there a term used for that when its applied to people in the real world?

Hate is a bit extreme. Dislike them as a unit? Of course. They represent everything wrong in this game and world. Their name alone reeks of pretentiousness and inequality, things I despise.

Everyone in Lords chose to be there, and knowing this I can safely say that them being a part of it is a direct reflection on who they are. How can you blame people for judging them based on only who they associate with when Lords are only the victims of their own horrible behavior?

[Hukkama]

HBizzle, on 18 December 2014 - 02:09 PM, said:

Hate is a bit extreme. Dislike them as a unit? Of course. They represent everything wrong in this game and world. Their name alone reeks of pretentiousness and inequality, things I despise.

Everyone in Lords chose to be there, and knowing this I can safely say that them being a part of it is a direct reflection on who they are. How can you blame people for judging them based on only who they associate with when Lords are only the victims of their own horrible behavior?

you mean the behavior of a few of the Lords not all of them. disliking a group people of a actions of a few of that group and not on the actions of each individual is pretty ****** thing to do seeing as some of the Lords are some of the most helpful in helping new players in their streams and on this forums. stereotyping is wrong for a unit just like the race of people in the real world

[HBizzle]

Hukkama, on 18 December 2014 - 02:13 PM, said:

you mean the behavior of a few of the Lords not all of them. disliking a group people of a actions of a few of that group and not on the actions of each individual is pretty ****** thing to do seeing as some of the Lords are some of the most helpful in helping new players in their streams and on this forums. stereotyping is wrong for a unit just like the race of people in the real world

That horrible behavior is condoned by the rest of them. That is tacit approval by the others in the unit who do not do it. That is direct culpability.

[Hukkama]

HBizzle, on 18 December 2014 - 02:16 PM, said:

That horrible behavior is condoned by the rest of them. That is tacit approval by the others in the unit who do not do it. That is direct culpability.

do you dislike muslims because of the actions of a few members who go out and kill children? they choose to be muslim when they do no have to be. even though they personally dont kill kids they are associating themselves with the same group who does right?

[CyclonerM]

Hukkama, on 18 December 2014 - 02:21 PM, said:

do you dislike muslims because of the actions of a few members who go out and kill children? they choose to be muslim when they do no have to be. even though they personally dont kill kids they are associating themselves with the same group who does right?

There are some muslims that actually disapprove these actions , there was an online campaign on this topic a while ago.

[HBizzle]

Hukkama, on 18 December 2014 - 02:21 PM, said:

do you dislike muslims because of the actions of a few members who go out and kill children? they choose to be muslim when they do no have to be. even though they personally dont kill kids they are associating themselves with the same group who does right?

If you cannot see the difference between a religion of billions of people compared to a unit of under 70 people then there is no hope for you on this.