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[MuffinTop]

If by some chance this was to even make it to MWO, what variant would it be? There are so many here on sarma!
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/BattleMaster

Edited by MuffinTop, 27 June 2012 - 08:54 AM.

[Verbrand]

Derek Icelord, on 27 June 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

Sort of. Robotech was the original name for BattleTech (essentially 1st edition). Second edition saw the name changed to BattleTech. The copyright issue comes from older anime series which is owned by the studios and distributed in the United States by Harmony Gold (who are the ones that make a big f-in deal of it all).

You have been misinformed.

1st edition of battletech was called "battle droids". Robotech was an anime series which FASA licensed the artwork for from the original japanese creators. That same company also licensed the series to Harmony Gold to show an english dubbed version of the show in the US. The exact wording of that contract meant that FASA could no longer use the artwork.

[Fl3tcher]

Rayzor, on 27 June 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

I actually liked the Re-seen BattleMaster A LOT better than the Unseen.

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I agree, the Reseen Battlemaster is a beautiful thing, lets hope I get to play the Reseen Thunderbolt . . and a few more besides?

[zer0imh]

TKG, on 27 June 2012 - 08:53 AM, said:

Duane loose

best mech artist imo.

[Nulnoil]

nope i think, because its robotek mech

[Viper69]

Makes you wonder how long before someone reskins an atlas to look like a battlemaster.

[zer0imh]

TKG, on 27 June 2012 - 08:53 AM, said:

Speaking of dougram....what mech is that in the background there (lol)
http://upload.wikime...Sun_Dougram.jpg

This kind of explains a lot

ShadowHawk!!!!! my favorite medium mech circa 3025

i love that autocannon5 on the shoulder. kicks butt @long range in mechwarrior1

Edited by zer0imh, 27 June 2012 - 09:04 AM.

[Darkstead]

zer0imh, on 27 June 2012 - 08:42 AM, said:

the...

locust (20t)
wasp/stinger (25t/30t)
phoenix lam (45t)
phoenix hawk (45t)
shadow hawk (55t)
griffin (55t)
wolverine (55t)
rifleman (60t)
thunderbolt (65t)
crusader (65t)
archer (70t)
warhammer (70t)
marauder (75t)
battlemaster (85t)

...all mech designs from robotech.

Yeah all the original mechs down the tube...someone pay for the rights!!!!

[Gorthaur]

Derek Icelord, on 27 June 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

Sort of. Robotech was the original name for BattleTech (essentially 1st edition). Second edition saw the name changed to BattleTech. The copyright issue comes from older anime series which is owned by the studios and distributed in the United States by Harmony Gold (who are the ones that make a big f-in deal of it all).

wrong, robotech is a combination of a few different mecha animes (macross and a couple others). battletech was originally called battledroids but had to change names because of George Lucas had already copyrighted the term "droid".

Edited by Gorthaur, 27 June 2012 - 09:06 AM.

[Derek Icelord]

Verbrand, on 27 June 2012 - 08:54 AM, said:

You have been misinformed.

1st edition of battletech was called "battle droids". Robotech was an anime series which FASA licensed the artwork for from the original japanese creators. That same company also licensed the series to Harmony Gold to show an english dubbed version of the show in the US. The exact wording of that contract meant that FASA could no longer use the artwork.

Aye, got my names swapped around. That'll teach me to look up things I'm fuzzy on before I post

[zer0imh]

http://www.localditc...mech/mechs.html

these mechs wer enough to make mechwarrior1 uber enjoyable

Edited by zer0imh, 27 June 2012 - 09:11 AM.

[cinco]

no it's unseen and it looks impractical with that huge glass bubble canopy. double improbable.

[Derek Icelord]

zer0imh, on 27 June 2012 - 09:10 AM, said:

http://www.localditc...mech/mechs.html

these mechs wer enough to make mechwarrior1 uber enjoyable

Unfortunately, only the Jenner hasn't been put on the unseen list. The status of the other 7 is uncertain (I'm still trying to find that official Catalyst post on the BattleTech forums).

Edited by Derek Icelord, 27 June 2012 - 09:16 AM.

[zer0imh]

Derek Icelord, on 27 June 2012 - 09:15 AM, said:

Unfortunately, only the Jenner hasn't been put on the unseen list. The status of the other 7 is uncertain (I'm still trying to find that official Catalyst post on the BattleTech forums).

i hope they include the...

1. locust
(jenner)
2. phoenix hawk
3. shadow hawk
4. rifleman
5. warhammer
6. marauder
7. battlemaster

top iconic mechs ever.

i know these are 3025 era mechs but they should include it on launch imo.

Edited by zer0imh, 27 June 2012 - 09:24 AM.

[Riin Suul]

TKG, on 27 June 2012 - 08:53 AM, said:

snip

I know this, the project phoenix rebuilds are hideous.

snip

nearly ALL of the original art is terrible(at least the art I've seen on sarna)... I am SO glad that MWO's art guy is so good at redesigns

[Elizander]

Fl3tcher, on 27 June 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

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I agree, the Reseen Battlemaster is a beautiful thing, lets hope I get to play the Reseen Thunderbolt . . and a few more besides?

This is purely my opinion, but I do not like the nipple lasers.

[zer0imh]

^stupid artist

look at the way the legs are spread trolol

Edited by zer0imh, 27 June 2012 - 09:29 AM.

[Dragon Lady]

zer0imh, on 27 June 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:

i think not.

all robotech mechs are already copyrighted if i'm not mistaken.

that includes the battlemaster (it's a robotech design)

The Battlemaster is not a Robotech design, but it was one of the designs FASA originally licensed from Japanese anime creators, and in the wake of the Harmony Gold fiasco, all designs that weren't produced in house were declared "unseen," just to be on the safe side.

And FWIW, none of the Macross designs (not Robotech, Macross. Please support the original producers and get the originals in the original Japanese, not the Macekred Robotech version) are copyrighted by Harmony Gold. FASA legally licensed those designs from original Japanese Macross producers, but Harmony Gold, who licensed the anime rights in the United States, decided to file a nuisance lawsuit, which is what caused many classic Battlemechs to become "unseen" rather than lose a lot of money fighting it in court. Harmony Gold is also the reason why we'll never see any of the other Macross series in the United States.

[zer0imh]

thanks for the clarification

robotech, i mean japanese mecha anime hehe (generalization)

Edited by zer0imh, 27 June 2012 - 09:31 AM.

[SilverKnight]

I'd love to see M$ revisit HG with a pipe wrench to their kneecaps. All HG does these day is Sue people if they even get a whiff of potential.
Then again.. M$ supposedly via rumors have intentions to bring out more Mech games or something similar, and if HG decides to show up.. M$ has the better lawyers...

I want my Rifleman. Drop the ammo dependancy and replace it with a All energy mix (Or at the very least ER PPC's in the arms) and oh baby. I'm in heaven.

(If I'm wrong, Please, Please, lemme know and I'll edit/revise this accordingly.)

Edited by SilverKnight, 27 June 2012 - 09:34 AM.