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[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

PGI has already explained that the various powers use Aerodyne dropships exclusively for the Invasion missions becase they allow for much faster hot drops, while Spherical dropships are less able to do the kind of fly-by low-altitude drops that Invasion requires.

[Brody319]

I would love if when the defenders counter-attacked, instead of killing a generator they had to destroy an Union class dropship's engines before it powered up, because once it powered up all its weapons would shred their team in seconds.

[Alexander Garden]

Putting this here just because

[FupDup]

Alexander Garden, on 18 December 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

Putting this here just because

[Lyoto Machida]

Mao of DC, on 18 December 2014 - 01:24 PM, said:

According to the weapons chart I found, the total amount of heat is 111. So 120 will cover that and allow for heat generated by movement. This chart is also based of MWO not the TT game.
http://s883.photobuc...nStats.png.html

Ghost heat for the lulz.

[ShadowWolf Kell]

I wonder what happens if you jump on top of a dropship while it's unloading it's cargo. Anyone tried it in a Spider yet?

[Mao of DC]

Lyoto Machida, on 18 December 2014 - 01:59 PM, said:

Ghost heat for the lulz.

Chain fire?

[Brody319]

Alexander Garden, on 18 December 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

Putting this here just because

Thanks Obama.


I am curious to see if these LL boating dropships will have the needed effect of stopping defense spawn camping.

Edited by Brody319, 18 December 2014 - 02:24 PM.

[BarHaid]

ShadowWolf Kell, on 18 December 2014 - 02:06 PM, said:

I wonder what happens if you jump on top of a dropship while it's unloading it's cargo. Anyone tried it in a Spider yet?

Well, I know what MY mission is now... Sorry whoever I drop with.

[ShadowWolf Kell]

BarHaid, on 18 December 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

Well, I know what MY mission is now... Sorry whoever I drop with.

[Lyoto Machida]

Mao of DC, on 18 December 2014 - 02:06 PM, said:

Chain fire?

That's ridiculous...maybe in some other MW game.

[Lexx]

How much MC would it cost to upgrade my dropship to one of these?

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Conquistador

[Mao of DC]

Lyoto Machida, on 18 December 2014 - 02:44 PM, said:

That's ridiculous...maybe in some other MW game.

So I just broke out the Areotech rule books and did a little more research and this is what I found out. Dropships operate differently than mech with regards to heat. They have a zero net heat system meaning if firing a weapon would create excess heat that weapon doesn't fire. None of the weapons have a 360 degree firing arc so unless the drop ship is completely surrounded it wouldn't be firing all of its weapons at the same time. You can see in the picture the Dev posted that the weapons are not all firing at the same mech but at multiple ones.

Is this a prefect answer no but it will suffice.

[Mao of DC]

Lexx, on 18 December 2014 - 03:06 PM, said:

How much MC would it cost to upgrade my dropship to one of these?

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Conquistador

5,000,000,000 MC and 14 years they were first produced in 3063.

[Kalendra RA]

Screech, on 18 December 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

Anyone else concerned about that dropship in the air? I don't think someone read the manual.

If there's no atmosphere, you have to kill the orbital velocity with a lateral burn, as aerobreaking isn't an option. It's presumably on a suicide burn to minimize the landing window and the time it's moving at a slower velocity, so it wouldn't be canceling the velocity and then slowly descending, but falling until near the point where its engines couldn't slow it down in time to land, and then canceling almost all the velocity in one long burn close to the surface.

And if you're thinking about everything inside falling sideways, two things: first, everyone and everything would be strapped down at that point anyways, and second, it would probably be decelerating at multiple Gs, so there would be the appearance of heavy gravity pulling downwards along the local Z axis of the craft (although that's not actually gravity, but the result of changing velocities).

Edited by SirPseudonymous, 18 December 2014 - 03:34 PM.

[ShadowWolf Kell]

SirPseudonymous, on 18 December 2014 - 03:29 PM, said:

If there's no atmosphere, you have to kill the orbital velocity with a lateral burn, as aerobreaking isn't an option. It's presumably on a suicide burn to minimize the landing window and the time it's moving at a slower velocity, so it wouldn't be canceling the velocity and then slowly descending, but falling until near the point where its engines couldn't slow it down in time to land, and then canceling almost all the velocity in one long burn close to the surface.

And if you're thinking about everything inside falling sideways, two things: a) everyone and everything would be strapped down at that point anyways, and it would probably be decelerating at multiple Gs, so there would be the appearance of heavy gravity pulling downwards along the local Z axis of the craft (although that's not actually gravity, but the result of changing velocities).

It looks like the GDL (Grey Death Legion) on a low-g moon without an atmosphere. In BTech, mechs actually went into vacuum and underwater environements and there were special rules for doing so. Apparently people are too hung up looking at it's AoA and completely ignoring the RCS thrusters to notice that nothing is out of the ordinary.

Edit - To clarify a little further, most IS merc units lacked their own transportation and that was often a part of their contractual agreements. House owned transportation usually didn't stick around in the system. For those that had DropShips, they had to make a choice on whether to risk keeping them on world or not. Keeping them meant they had to defend them.

Edited by ShadowWolf Kell, 18 December 2014 - 03:39 PM.

[Rhaythe]

Screech, on 18 December 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

Anyone else concerned about that dropship in the air? I don't think someone read the manual.

It works in Kerbal Space Program. Probably just fine.

[Alistair Winter]

If you don't remember this type of dropship, you're simply not old school enough

[TripleEhBeef]

Alexander Garden, on 18 December 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

Putting this here just because

PEW PEW PEW!

[Belorion]

Russ mentioned in the last THM, that he thought a mode where a union class drop ship landed would be cool.