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[Raven Starbinder]

If what you are saying is true how come the FRR is crumbling under the Clans assault. Even the FRR's competitive teams are not making a dent in the Clan controlled planets. I had no choice in joining the FRR faction, our leader choose the FRR. I am only trying to do my part for the defence of the FRR. Steiner wants nothing to do with the Clans so they ally with them what does that tell you.

[Manny Rhyde]

where exactly is the outrage from the FRR when CI had betrayed you lot? commstar irregulars were the reason why the clan wolf offensive had stopped in it's tracks. Yesterday they had the audacity of switching to ghost bear and leaving FRR to rot in hell.

[InspectorG]

Raven Starbinder, on 26 December 2014 - 07:27 PM, said:

If what you are saying is true how come the FRR is crumbling under the Clans assault. Even the FRR's competitive teams are not making a dent in the Clan controlled planets. I had no choice in joining the FRR faction, our leader choose the FRR. I am only trying to do my part for the defence of the FRR. Steiner wants nothing to do with the Clans so they ally with them what does that tell you.

Clan Ghost Bear got real coordinated really early.
Clan Wolf has a non-aggression pact with House Steiner. Smart political move for Steiner, they have 3 Clan borders and the Jade Falcons(House of Lords) unit is cutting them at will.
FRR borders 2 Clans who want to be-line though us to Terra.
Clans have a non-aggression pact.
IS is divided between IS vs Clan and IS vs IS...the 'southern' houses dont care about the Clans...yet.
Clans GB and W outnumber FRR by a decent margin. PGI said they would do something about the outnumbered factions.

When you join the FRR, you (supposedly) knew what you were getting into. Lore-wise, FRR gets reduced to 4 planets but CGB was impressed by their bravery and absorbed the FRR people and treated them pretty well.

Other Clans want to enslave or destroy all 'freebirths', I guess they didnt get enough hugs while they were growing in their vats?

All in all for a faction that is supposed to go down fast, FRR is putting up as decent fight as possible.

Its uncharacteristic for a FRR viking to complain about death and unfair fights. You fight, you go to Valhalla, you get free beer till Ragnarok.

manny082, on 26 December 2014 - 08:34 PM, said:

where exactly is the outrage from the FRR when CI had betrayed you lot? commstar irregulars were the reason why the clan wolf offensive had stopped in it's tracks. Yesterday they had the audacity of switching to ghost bear and leaving FRR to rot in hell.

FRR becomes CGB...You beat us here you get to fight us again...
I bet once Clan Wolf gets a little too close to Terra...CGB will cut you off.

Well, would make sense lore-wise.

PGI needs to find a way to keep Units in one place for a decent time. otherwise everyone will Merc it out via being a Merc unit, or only using short term contracts.

[IraqiWalker]

Abivard, on 26 December 2014 - 03:17 PM, said:

Steiner is allied with clan Wolf, which is now allied with the other Clans, Which are all fighting the same people Davion is fighting.

The Fedcom and the FRR have no border, so this fictitious Davion pressure on the FRR you speak of is really your proxy war on behalf of the clans against the rest of the IS that was helping defend against the clans, but now must defend against your forces?

The Last time a Jade falcon planet was attacked it was done by the FRR, that was going on the very day Steiner unit council betrayed the inner sphere and made alliance with Clan Wolf.

Even with Steiner's constant refusal of a cease fire with the FRR, the FRR had stopped offenses against Steiner space and focused on the clan. When Steiner came back to us and asked if the cease fire offer they had twice refused was still on the table (this would be 3rd) we not only said yes, the FRR also launched offensive attacks against Clan Jade Falcon as a show of good faith!

Then the FRR discovers it was merely a ploy for Steiner to get their Clan Wolf alliance finalized. That is what has so many FRR players outraged.

Seems Davion doesn't even have the guts to admit where they truly stand in all this.

Oh come on. That's not even true. Steiner has a CEASE-FIRE with clan wolf.

Let's get the conspiracy theories sorted out here:

1- Davion is fighting with the clans. False. Last night I was in a drop on Byesville with a Steiner 8MAN. Defending a Kurita world from CGB.

2- Steiner is working with the clans. I can't speak for them, but since they are defending planets even in Kurita and the FRR from clan invasion. I can't see how that is true.

3- Steiner isn't attacking CJF. Absolutely false, I've seen those planets' stats, and they are getting attacked. Not to mention that Steiner is defending against CJF also.


As for where we stand:

We've been saying this from day 1. We will not attack Steiner, we will help defend their planets from clan incursions, and we will help defend against the clans. We are also waging war against our neighbors who refuse to stop attacking us.

Do not portray the FRR as the victims and martyrs here. Day 1 of CW you guys attacked every faction around you. Starting with Kurita and Steiner. In fact, you have taken planets from Kurita that you still have not returned. Same with Steiner. Don't make it seem like you were stabbed in the back, when you were one of the first to start stabbing.


No faction is innocent here. So don't try to make it seem like we're the ones fighting, when literally ALL OF YOU, are doing the same thing.


Also, need I remind you that the current peace in the Inner Sphere from this Holiday truce was thanks to a proposition by Davion?

Raven Starbinder, on 26 December 2014 - 07:27 PM, said:

If what you are saying is true how come the FRR is crumbling under the Clans assault. Even the FRR's competitive teams are not making a dent in the Clan controlled planets. I had no choice in joining the FRR faction, our leader choose the FRR. I am only trying to do my part for the defence of the FRR. Steiner wants nothing to do with the Clans so they ally with them what does that tell you.

Steiner wants their planets back (the FRR took some planets from Steiner, and they want them back).

Steiner also did not ally with the clans. They have a Cease-Fire with Clan Wolf. That means that for a short time they are not attacking each other.

Edited by IraqiWalker, 26 December 2014 - 08:58 PM.

[MischiefSC]

InspectorG, on 26 December 2014 - 08:38 PM, said:

Clan Ghost Bear got real coordinated really early.
Clan Wolf has a non-aggression pact with House Steiner. Smart political move for Steiner, they have 3 Clan borders and the Jade Falcons(House of Lords) unit is cutting them at will.
FRR borders 2 Clans who want to be-line though us to Terra.
Clans have a non-aggression pact.
IS is divided between IS vs Clan and IS vs IS...the 'southern' houses dont care about the Clans...yet.
Clans GB and W outnumber FRR by a decent margin. PGI said they would do something about the outnumbered factions.

When you join the FRR, you (supposedly) knew what you were getting into. Lore-wise, FRR gets reduced to 4 planets but CGB was impressed by their bravery and absorbed the FRR people and treated them pretty well.

Other Clans want to enslave or destroy all 'freebirths', I guess they didnt get enough hugs while they were growing in their vats?

All in all for a faction that is supposed to go down fast, FRR is putting up as decent fight as possible.

Its uncharacteristic for a FRR viking to complain about death and unfair fights. You fight, you go to Valhalla, you get free beer till Ragnarok.



FRR becomes CGB...You beat us here you get to fight us again...
I bet once Clan Wolf gets a little too close to Terra...CGB will cut you off.

Well, would make sense lore-wise.

PGI needs to find a way to keep Units in one place for a decent time. otherwise everyone will Merc it out via being a Merc unit, or only using short term contracts.

A glorious death worth remembering, a seat in Valhalla near the fire, strong mead and a lap worthy of warming a Valkyries bottom.

[Albatroz]

Ok, I know i´m just a lone player and all. But I can handle a fight pretty well for the FRR. Although I don´t know much about the CW.

But shouldn´t we be making a REAL counter-offensive against the clans? I mean, they´re not even worried about defending their planets, only about attacking. How about some of us just try to attack to divide their forces while we´re having a massive invasion on a planet? Yesterday House Kurita took a planet in the middle of clan territory. I don´t know how was the fighting, but I bet they didn´t see that coming.

Maybe we should at least consider a change on tactics, since what we´re doing is evidently not working. I mean, I want to go to Valhalla and all, but just not THAT soon.

Skol, shield brothers!

[Albatroz]

Now, just to say something about this game: If you choose the FRR, you know what you´re getting into. It´s hardcore mode on. I dont´t know you guys in person, but I already like your spirit.

In the other hand, if you choose clans... Meh... you´re just that little boy that chooses easy mode so you can feel you´re good at something. I used to play with clan mechs and sold them so I could be full FRR. I can say that they´re much better than any IS quirked mech. I used to play with a freaking Nova just for fun and it was devastating. So... go pull the legs from some insect, hang cats and play with op mechs away from me.

For my shield brothers: SKOL!

[Ductus Hase]

Abivard, on 24 December 2014 - 12:10 AM, said:

Most FRR pilots are Attacking clan held planets, that is why you rarely see them on defense planets.
Steiner are NOT attacking any clan planets, they only defend vs clans, they reserve their attacks for IS targets.

Before Steiner and wolf allied :
The FRR was devoting a major effort at invading Clan Jade falcon, as well as fighting CW and CGB.
Clan wolf was fighting CJF and CGB, as well as Steiner and FRR.
CGB was fighting CW, CSJ, FRR and DCMS
CJF was Fighting Steiner,FRR,CW.
DCMS was fighting Steiner,Davion,CGB and CSJ

Steiner was Fighting, CSJ, CW, Marik, DCMS.

After the massive Clan-Steiner accords:

FRR is Fighting, CW,CGB, and being attacked by Steiner.
CW is fighting the FRR
CGB is fighting the FRR and DCMS
CSJ is fighting the DCMS
Davion is fighting the DCMS,MARIK and Liao.
CJF is fighting Steiner
DCMS is attacking CGB,CSJ, it is defending versus Steiner and Davion.

Steiner is attacking FRR,DCMS,Marik and liao, it is defending only versus CJF.

You are always telling the truth honorable Viking we shall adhere your wisdom, grant you all the planets you have taken from us - come take some more, we love to give and are going to defend your borders so you can plunder the Commonwealth without worries.

Sry for joking... i am going to be serious now:

Would you guys let us keep our planets and give back what you have taken from us, if we stop attacking Liao?

Gosh... SRY I can´t take you serious - your Propaganda is way to hilarious. Maybe I should attack Butler some more, seeing FRR and Kuritans dc after taking an attackslot is going to calm my laughing.

[luxebo]

So... been away for a bit. Seems like we are losing more ground yet again. The Steiners and Kuritans keep attacking us for whatever reason. Clan Wolf and Ghost Bear is also quickly advancing.

As lore has said, the FRR won't be very much at the end... but Ghost Bear becomes partly with us. The Davions have been helping a lot (seen quite a bit on our side to defend against Clanners). Liao and Marik I've never ever seen defending (well like one person that's liao, that's it really.) Kuritans and Steiners are still attacking us from what I see, and I rarely see them defending against Clanners.

So basically it's us with Davion, with Kurita as some sort of ceasefire, but at this point I don't know if that ceasefire is still active. I know the IS ceasefire break was going on, but now we gotta get back on track. This won't work if every time I walk onto a defending planet attackers win by 100%. I won't stand for losing this much ground and I won't stand for losing any more ground. Pushing back is mandatory.

[Podex]

Hey, I've been fighting. Marik is there, just not in organized drops -- yet. I've been trying to work my magic, and will continue to do so. People see what's going on up there and are not happy about it. Currently, members of Davion are willing to combine forces with Marik to push them back. While this is not large scale reinforcements, it is a start. I am confident that we can and will push them back.

You have friends down here, so don't give up hope. You may want your command echelon to post a request for assistance in both the Marik and Davion MWO forums.

Also, you may see random Davion and Marik pilots on your TS in the coming days. Don't freak out. This is the coordinated forces.

Here you go, just so you know that I'm not yanking your chain: http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__4047423

Edited by Podex, 27 December 2014 - 12:28 PM.

[aelfkins]

IraqiWalker, on 26 December 2014 - 08:50 PM, said:

Oh come on. That's not even true. Steiner has a CEASE-FIRE with clan wolf.

Let's get the conspiracy theories sorted out here:

1- Davion is fighting with the clans. False. Last night I was in a drop on Byesville with a Steiner 8MAN. Defending a Kurita world from CGB.

IraqiWalker, on 21 December 2014 - 04:19 AM, said:

1- You (clan Wolf) came to negotiate.
2- You are STILL biting at each other
3- Those quarreling siblings seem to have better coordination than your test tube back-stabbing khans

[bobF]

Just a small correction, Kurita has never taken a clan world. For some reason, Nykvarn wasn't an option for the Bear or SJ to attack, so it remains an island of Kuritaness in a sea of Clan, for now. Only two Clan worlds have ever been lost to an IS counter attack that I'm aware of, one by us (New Bergen) and one by Wolf (Liezen iirc) to the FRR. So good job FRR, out of all the epeening factions, you guys can actually walk the walk.

When I see a mixed pug of IS rabble, I prepare to farm. When I see an FRR pug or unit, it's time to put on my gameface. Looking forward to more good fights with the space vikings.

(on an unrelated note, there's an actual ooooooooooold school game called Space Vikings, it was a starship combat and planet invasion simulator. Good times)

[Tordin]

The last 4 matches I have won this day have ONLY been mixed IS fellas, even if it were pugs. It isnt as black and white as most want it to be. All were against you orange wolves, mostly pug but you were putting up a good fight.
I have indeed noticed davion, marik, kuritas and some steiner and liao helping us, again even if just pugs, doing a pretty darn good job.

I've even tried to help both Kurita and Steiner forces when needed. Its thanks to both along with our stubborness and pride that the FRR are still standing.

Edited by Tordin, 27 December 2014 - 01:23 PM.

[IraqiWalker]

aelfkins, on 27 December 2014 - 12:32 PM, said:

quoting 2 separate, unrelated posts

Your point?
The comment about clan wolf coming to negotiate was aimed at a wolf pilot bashing Steiner, and the IS. So I called him out on that lie, since I heard that CW was the one that approached Steiner.

CW has not negotiated with Davion at all. So please put context in there, instead of trying to mislead others.

[luxebo]

We need to take offense or die. The FRR lost a lot of planets super quickly thus far. If we don't do severe group striking on Ghost Bear and Wolf, we are gonna die. It will end as the lore if we don't act, there isn't much more choice but to strike!

Edited by luxebo, 27 December 2014 - 09:24 PM.

[Tuann]

luxebo, on 27 December 2014 - 09:24 PM, said:

We need to take offense or die. The FRR lost a lot of planets super quickly thus far. If we don't do severe group striking on Ghost Bear and Wolf, we are gonna die. It will end as the lore if we don't act, there isn't much more choice but to strike!

Well, why don't you just all join the Ghost Bear Dominion ? 😄
Nordic Space Vikings,... Nordic Ghost Bears,...
Its a great match !

You're great fighters,.. Think of the things we can accomplish together !

Sometimes the lore isn't so bad, Quiaff ?

luxebo, on 27 December 2014 - 09:24 PM, said:

We need to take offense or die. The FRR lost a lot of planets super quickly thus far. If we don't do severe group striking on Ghost Bear and Wolf, we are gonna die. It will end as the lore if we don't act, there isn't much more choice but to strike!

Well, why don't you just all join the Ghost Bear Dominion ? 😄
Nordic Space Vikings,... Nordic Ghost Bears,...
Its a great match !

You're great fighters,.. Think of the things we can accomplish together !

Sometimes the lore isn't so bad, Quiaff ?

[TheAstroPub]

Tuann, on 28 December 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Well, why don't you just all join the Ghost Bear Dominion ? ������
Nordic Space Vikings,... Nordic Ghost Bears,...
Its a great match !

You're great fighters,.. Think of the things we can accomplish together !

Sometimes the lore isn't so bad, Quiaff ?



Well, why don't you just all join the Ghost Bear Dominion ? ������
Nordic Space Vikings,... Nordic Ghost Bears,...
Its a great match !

You're great fighters,.. Think of the things we can accomplish together !

Sometimes the lore isn't so bad, Quiaff ?

As a former Mercenary for the FRR I can say if y'all formed the dominion this early you would stomp the rest of the galaxy. At this point the only good players fight for CGB or the FRR. Since facing the other elite groups in the south I can say they wouldn't last a day under the kind of on sought the FRR or CGB could do.

The problem the FRR has is that they don't have an in with the large mercenary groups, no reason to fight for them. Especially when the largest and most noted group turns coat, I wouldn't trust the word of a CI member if they swore on penalty of death at this point. Unless PGI gets off their butt and did what they did for liao, falcon, and panther the FRR will be one planet in a month.

Edited by Bzerker01, 28 December 2014 - 05:48 AM.

[IraqiWalker]

Bzerker01, on 28 December 2014 - 05:46 AM, said:

As a former Mercenary for the FRR I can say if y'all formed the dominion this early you would stomp the rest of the galaxy. At this point the only good players fight for CGB or the FRR. Since facing the other elite groups in the south I can say they wouldn't last a day under the kind of on sought the FRR or CGB could do.

The problem the FRR has is that they don't have an in with the large mercenary groups, no reason to fight for them. Especially when the largest and most noted group turns coat, I wouldn't trust the word of a CI member if they swore on penalty of death at this point. Unless PGI gets off their butt and did what they did for liao, falcon, and panther the FRR will be one planet in a month.

Weird, when doing regular drops with Marik/Davion mixes we have no problem dealing with the clans. CGB can get scary sometimes, but if the other houses stopped their bickering, Davion/Marik/Steiner can REALLY turn the dial on the clans.

[TheAstroPub]

IraqiWalker, on 28 December 2014 - 05:59 AM, said:

Weird, when doing regular drops with Marik/Davion mixes we have no problem dealing with the clans. CGB can get scary sometimes, but if the other houses stopped their bickering, Davion/Marik/Steiner can REALLY turn the dial on the clans.

Clan PUGS aren't scary, but you never faced the 1 of like 10 big groups they have. I know because you southern IS don't fight in numbers on the clan front and when I have fought them they weren't as difficult to beat.

[IraqiWalker]

Bzerker01, on 28 December 2014 - 06:42 AM, said:

Clan PUGS aren't scary, but you never faced the 1 of like 10 big groups they have. I know because you southern IS don't fight in numbers on the clan front and when I have fought them they weren't as difficult to beat.

I've been dealing with their 12 mans (including MS, and CGS), for a while now. Also, Davion boasts more defenders on the clan fronts than almost any other factions. Neither of those statements is true.

Edited by IraqiWalker, 28 December 2014 - 06:49 AM.