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#10201 Ovion

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 02:51 PM

View PostBrody319, on 10 February 2015 - 02:41 PM, said:

hell no it would not!

I don't want that thing anywhere near this game! its ugly as sin and would bring nothing but shame to anyone who piloted it.
That's your opinion.

And it's wrong. ;)

I can make my Locust 1M on it, but better and faster.
2CMPL, 2CSRM2 or even 2CSRM4 with enough ammo for each.

The B Config is nice too, it'll have 2-4 CMGs and 2CMPLs, also solid.

The A and C configs are a bit, meh, but the Prime and B are nice and I would enjoy them immensely.

Edited by Ovion, 10 February 2015 - 02:51 PM.


#10202 Odanan

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 03:00 PM

So, wave 3 could be of old omnimechs instead of the newer generation (Arctic Cheetah, Shadow Cat, Huntsman, Cauldron Born):

- light:
Fire Moth (replacing the MASC for 1 ton of armor) - original invader. The legs are done (Mist Lynx's)

- medium:
Viper - terrific mech and original invader. The legs are already done (Nova's) and the arms (Kit Fox's).

- heavy:
Woodsman? - Extinct? Prime config identical to the Timber Wolf Prime and needs at least 1 new "by PGI" configuration.
Lupus? - Extinct? Standard engine.
Crossbow? - Standard engine. Terrible prime configuration.

- assault:
Kingfisher? - Standard engine (not necessarily a bad thing for an assault that size)
Executioner? - (replacing the MASC for 2 tons of armor and 2 DHS) - original invader, the legs are already done (Gargoyle's)

Edited by Odanan, 10 February 2015 - 03:09 PM.


#10203 HlynkaCG

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 03:01 PM

View PostVirlutris, on 10 February 2015 - 02:41 PM, said:

Do you think they'd nerf the speed a little to keep it right around the TDK even after speed tweak?

I got the impression the server gets frenetic above 172.


The Hit reg and HSR issues are largely a function of speed. Basically they are a percentage vector error, the faster you move the larger the potential error / correction.

#10204 Odanan

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 03:10 PM

View PostBrody319, on 10 February 2015 - 02:41 PM, said:

hell no it would not!

I don't want that thing anywhere near this game! its ugly as sin and would bring nothing but shame to anyone who piloted it.

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
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I would love to pilot a Fire Moth.

#10205 Metus regem

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 03:14 PM

View PostOdanan, on 10 February 2015 - 03:00 PM, said:

So, wave 3 could be of old omnimechs instead of the newer generation (Arctic Cheetah, Shadow Cat, Huntsman, Cauldron Born):

- light:
Fire Moth (replacing the MASC for 1 ton of armor) - original invader. The legs are done (Mist Lynx's)

- medium:
Viper - terrific mech and original invader. The legs are already done (Nova's) and the arms (Kit Fox's).

- heavy:
Woodsman? - Extinct? Prime config identical to the Timber Wolf Prime and needs at least 1 new "by PGI" configuration.
Lupus? - Extinct? Standard engine.
Crossbow? - Standard engine. Terrible prime configuration.

- assault:
Kingfisher? - Standard engine (not necessarily a bad thing for an assault that size)
Executioner? - (replacing the MASC for 2 tons of armor and 2 DHS) - original invader, the legs are already done (Gargoyle's)



You forgot the Coyotl!

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http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Coyotl

#10206 Odanan

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 03:29 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 10 February 2015 - 03:14 PM, said:

You forgot the Coyotl!

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Coyotl

Ohh that's a sexy mech... but don't you think the Viper has priority?

#10207 MechWarrior5152251

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 04:25 PM

Firemoth high weapon mounts would make it king of the lights...

#10208 Metus regem

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 04:42 PM

View PostOdanan, on 10 February 2015 - 03:29 PM, said:

Ohh that's a sexy mech... but don't you think the Viper has priority?


Honestly, I'd rather have the Coyotl, if for either looks or feel...

The Prime hits like a truck with that cERPPC, and the A can dance with those 7 JJ's...

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 04:45 PM

View PostOdanan, on 10 February 2015 - 03:29 PM, said:

Ohh that's a sexy mech... but don't you think the Viper has priority?


Are you kidding? It looks like a snowbike and a jet had a baby, someone attached legs to it and glued various oversized weapon boxes on the extremities.

#10210 Odanan

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 04:47 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 10 February 2015 - 04:42 PM, said:

Honestly, I'd rather have the Coyotl, if for either looks or feel...

The Prime hits like a truck with that cERPPC, and the A can dance with those 7 JJ's...

But the Viper can be a Super Ember...

#10211 Brody319

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 04:47 PM

View PostMechWarrior5152251, on 10 February 2015 - 04:25 PM, said:

Firemoth high weapon mounts would make it king of the lights...


ppftt. more like a faster Lynx. Arms shot off and wandering around uselessly like an idiot because its arms are the first thing that gets shot off.

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 04:50 PM

View Postzagibu, on 10 February 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

Are you kidding? It looks like a snowbike and a jet had a baby, someone attached legs to it and glued various oversized weapon boxes on the extremities.

Love is beautiful, isn't it?

#10213 Metus regem

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 04:56 PM

View PostOdanan, on 10 February 2015 - 04:47 PM, said:

But the Viper can be a Super Ember...


And that is meant to be a selling feature? With PGI's track record for Clan mech hit boxes and sizing, the poor dragonfly would be the size of the Nova, with pre-hitbox fix Hellbringer hit boxes....

Thanks, but no thanks on the Dragonfly.

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 05:21 PM

View PostBrody319, on 10 February 2015 - 04:47 PM, said:


ppftt. more like a faster Lynx. Arms shot off and wandering around uselessly like an idiot because its arms are the first thing that gets shot off.


You obviously don't play lights, or you stand around waiting to be shot a lot. I have only had an arm shot off once in a Firestarter in more than 1000 matches and those arms are big....

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 05:28 PM

View PostMechWarrior5152251, on 10 February 2015 - 05:21 PM, said:


You obviously don't play lights, or you stand around waiting to be shot a lot. I have only had an arm shot off once in a Firestarter in more than 1000 matches and those arms are big....


you obviously have never played a myst Lynx.

I Love lights. I have played Ravens, Adders, Kit Fox, Firestarter, Locust, Lynx, and Spiders.

the Lynx's arms are massive, and you want to take those low hanging ones, and dangle them over your head for the heavier mechs? fantastic idea.

#10216 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 06:10 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 10 February 2015 - 03:14 PM, said:



You forgot the Coyotl!

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http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Coyotl


Cool mech! It looks like the Cougar's older brother. Seems like it should be a chicken walker though.



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Posted 10 February 2015 - 07:24 PM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 10 February 2015 - 06:10 PM, said:


Cool mech! It looks like the Cougar's older brother. Seems like it should be a chicken walker though.



Well more like grand father to the cougar... I mean the Coyotle was The first omni-mech after all...

#10218 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 15 February 2015 - 10:22 PM

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Posted 15 February 2015 - 10:38 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 15 February 2015 - 10:22 PM, said:

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Sure looks like a Hellstar.... That'd be a mean machine, but I think it might be a bit lacking in MWO, with cERPPC's...

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Posted 15 February 2015 - 10:48 PM

A Mech we might want to add to the Medium Mech list. A Whitworth. It's a light LRM solution for the Inner Sphere.

Timeline relevant Variants WTH-1 WTH-0 WTH-1S WTH-2
At 40 tons It would probably be more popular in CW than in normal Pub matches.





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