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#10861 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 01:05 PM

With the incoming IIC mechs, anyone think Phelan's Wolfhound could become a Clan Hero. With the clan tech, it cannot be an IS mech, but it's almost too iconic to not have in-game.

Also bump!

Edited by cdlord, 23 July 2015 - 01:05 PM.


#10862 Odanan

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 01:11 PM

View Postcdlord, on 23 July 2015 - 01:05 PM, said:

With the incoming IIC mechs, anyone think Phelan's Wolfhound could become a Clan Hero. With the clan tech, it cannot be an IS mech, but it's almost too iconic to not have in-game.

Also bump!

I don't know.. mixed tech is a dangerous territory...

Anyway, next Clan pack:

Legacy Package

light: Piranha
medium: Conjurer/Hellhound
heavy: Grizzly (or Black Python)
assault: Bane (or Stone Rhino)

EDIT: And another IIC pack:

light: Locust IIC
medium: Shadow Hawk IIC
heavy: Rifleman IIC
assault: Warhammer IIC

Edited by Odanan, 24 June 2017 - 05:31 AM.
Kodiak was released


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Posted 23 July 2015 - 01:34 PM

View PostOdanan, on 23 July 2015 - 01:11 PM, said:

I don't know.. mixed tech is a dangerous territory...

Anyway, next Clan pack:

Legacy Package

light: Piranha
medium: Conjurer
heavy: Grizzly
assault: Kodiak

IDK, eventually we GOTTA get the Viper (Dragonfly).

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 01:50 PM

View PostOdanan, on 23 July 2015 - 01:11 PM, said:

I don't know.. mixed tech is a dangerous territory...

Anyway, next Clan pack:

Legacy Package

light: Piranha
medium: Conjurer
heavy: Grizzly
assault: Kodiak


Grinner is not mixed tech. Just an IS tech Wolfhound made into a Clan tech Wolfhound IIC.

(*gasp* They should bring out BOTH.)

#10865 Nathan Foxbane

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 02:05 PM

Conjurer is really just a Wolverine IIC. Why not a unique standard medium like the Vapor Eagle? The Corvis would be nice for reverse jointed fans, but really it is a Corvis, it is a small wonder it could spawn anything so vicious as a Stormcrow.

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 02:15 PM

View PostNathan Foxbane, on 23 July 2015 - 02:05 PM, said:

Conjurer is really just a Wolverine IIC. Why not a unique standard medium like the Vapor Eagle? The Corvis would be nice for reverse jointed fans, but really it is a Corvis, it is a small wonder it could spawn anything so vicious as a Stormcrow.


Because bringing in the Conjurer my remove the last of the bad taste in our mouths given to us from the MW4 "Conjurer".

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 02:23 PM

View PostNathan K, on 23 July 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:

Because bringing in the Conjurer my remove the last of the bad taste in our mouths given to us from the MW4 "Conjurer".

This.
The MW4's Hellhound is actually a Black Lanner, but since they couldn't make MASC work, they renamed it to Hellhound.

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 02:28 PM

I could go for a GRF-IIC and a LCT-IIC, myself.

Then again, I could go for a Firemoth, Dragonfly, (pick a heavy), Kingfisher lineup, too. I think they can tweak/quirk/remove/replace something to make the Firemoth fit the game's parameters, but other mechs are higher priority for development I suppose.

Edited by Virlutris, 23 July 2015 - 02:29 PM.


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Posted 23 July 2015 - 02:32 PM

View PostNathan K, on 23 July 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:


Because bringing in the Conjurer my remove the last of the bad taste in our mouths given to us from the MW4 "Conjurer".

I actually liked the MW4 Hellhound and saw it as a distinct design from the Conjurer. The fact that it had some omnipods, implying it was an OmniMech, also marks it as different.

View PostOdanan, on 23 July 2015 - 02:23 PM, said:

This.
The MW4's Hellhound is actually a Black Lanner, but since they couldn't make MASC work, they renamed it to Hellhound.

If it was supposed to be a Black Lanner it should have weighed five tons more, had more missiles, and been a whole lot faster stock. It is still a IIC anyways, and should be part of a IIC pack. Hopefully the next IIC pack.

View PostVirlutris, on 23 July 2015 - 02:28 PM, said:

I could go for a GRF-IIC and a LCT-IIC, myself.

Then again, I could go for a Firemoth, Dragonfly, (pick a heavy), Kingfisher lineup, too. I think they can tweak/quirk/remove/replace something to make the Firemoth fit the game's parameters, but other mechs are higher priority for development I suppose.

The Linebacker? I'd use the Fire Falcon as the Light for that package, though, there is a good reason there are only two canon 20 ton Omni's in the entirety of BT.

Edited by Nathan Foxbane, 23 July 2015 - 02:43 PM.


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Posted 23 July 2015 - 04:56 PM

View PostNathan K, on 23 July 2015 - 01:50 PM, said:

Grinner is not mixed tech. Just an IS tech Wolfhound made into a Clan tech Wolfhound IIC.

(*gasp* They should bring out BOTH.)

True, but yet another Wolfhound only with lasers? God, no!
And how would players would master this mech? With more 3 invented (Clan) variants with only energy hardpoints?

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 05:15 PM

View PostOdanan, on 23 July 2015 - 04:56 PM, said:

True, but yet another Wolfhound only with lasers? God, no!
And how would players would master this mech? With more 3 invented (Clan) variants with only energy hardpoints?

A Wolfhound with an SSRM-2 and MG in each arm would be pretty cool. Defeats the purpose of an ammo independent 'Mech, which is unacceptable.

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 05:26 PM

View PostOdanan, on 23 July 2015 - 02:23 PM, said:

This.
The MW4's Hellhound is actually a Black Lanner, but since they couldn't make MASC work, they renamed it to Hellhound.


No no no the mw4 hellhound is a work of beautiful art. I say it should be incorporated into the bit lore as the war hound. Make it a super rare mech to explain it never showing up in major conflicts. I loved that mech LOVED IT. Light cause rifle and some medium lasers that was a mean mean harasser

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 05:40 PM

View PostArmorine, on 23 July 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:

No no no the mw4 hellhound is a work of beautiful art. I say it should be incorporated into the bit lore as the war hound. Make it a super rare mech to explain it never showing up in major conflicts. I loved that mech LOVED IT. Light cause rifle and some medium lasers that was a mean mean harasser


Yes, and Zilla Jr. is a great giant monster. But he is still not Godzilla. (Zilla on the other hand is crap no matter what you call it and lives only to die by said other two.)

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 08:58 PM

View PostNathan K, on 23 July 2015 - 05:40 PM, said:

Yes, and Zilla Jr. is a great giant monster. But he is still not Godzilla. (Zilla on the other hand is crap no matter what you call it and lives only to die by said other two.)

"I knew that tuna-eating monster was useless!" :lol:

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 09:42 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 07 July 2015 - 10:29 AM, said:

Bigger engine cap and a couple less MGs would have made the Arrow perfect, actually.


Alternatively, if you are like me and have an aversion to XL engines, current engine cap and the availability of LAC/2 would have made it perfect, too.

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 10:02 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 23 July 2015 - 09:42 PM, said:


Alternatively, if you are like me and have an aversion to XL engines, current engine cap and the availability of LAC/2 would have made it perfect, too.

never understood your aversion to XLs on these....but it is what it is.

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 11:16 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 23 July 2015 - 10:02 PM, said:

never understood your aversion to XLs on these....but it is what it is.


On anything but a BJ-3 with an ERPPC+PPC combo, I just feel it's not necessary. You get little meaningful firepower or cooling advantage with any payload outside of those aforementioned PPCs by equipping an XL, yet you triple the number of critical components by making those un-shielded sides contain the engine. Since I lose sides before dying almost every time, XL is simply no bueno. Also, for a close-quarters face-roller like the Arrow, having a Standard is extra goodies for obvious reasons.

That said, even the XL-equipped BJ-3 toaster strudel will get wrecked by a Vindicator pastry, all because the Vindicator can soak with its arms.

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 09:15 PM

So.... In the grand style that is the ULTIMATE MECH DISCUSSION THREAD....

How about that Warhammer?? :D

I read in another thread someone already calling it DOA. LMAO!!!!

Bring on the Unseens, my wallet yearns to vomit greenbacks at them. :P

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 09:20 PM

View Postcdlord, on 26 July 2015 - 09:15 PM, said:

So.... In the grand style that is the ULTIMATE MECH DISCUSSION THREAD....

How about that Warhammer?? :D

I read in another thread someone already calling it DOA. LMAO!!!!

Bring on the Unseens, my wallet yearns to vomit greenbacks at them. :P

cuz it aint got 12 energy mounted super high, so course it's DOA silly!

Do you even Meta? ;)

but on a serious note?

Warhammer, Marauder, Crusader, Rifleman, Phoenix Hawk and Longbow, now please.

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 09:44 PM

Ahem Bishop plz don't forget the Archer!






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