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#10901 Odanan

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 05:26 AM

No more news about the Unseen? Is PGI wrapping a Project Phoenix II pack right now?

#10902 Speedy Plysitkos

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 05:51 AM

View PostCimarb, on 31 July 2015 - 07:35 AM, said:

What Bishop said. It is not about hardpoints; it is about adding mechs that keep people interested and bring in the money for all of the other projects that people ask for that do not.


so where is god dammit, our kodiak ?

#10903 Nathan Foxbane

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 06:00 AM

View PostOdanan, on 10 August 2015 - 05:26 AM, said:

No more news about the Unseen? Is PGI wrapping a Project Phoenix II pack right now?

Only Russ knows... maybe.

Honestly, right now I really want to know more about HBS's BattleTech. They use an inverted MechCommander logo as the A in "BattleTech" for crying out loud. Need to know if I can command vehicles and infantry right beside my 'Mechs.

I am a bit burned out on Packs right now and a Project Phoenix II or a pack including some select non IIC Clan BattleMechs is the only real way I'll buy more. I have four Overlords worth of 'Mechs in my bays or coming and I just cannot pilot them all. I never thought I'd say this, but I have too many 'Mechs. :(

#10904 Steinar Bergstol

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 06:02 AM

If it does come to pass that the Unseen shall descend unto the blighted fields of MWO and with their holy presence revitalize the ground upon which they walk...

... Then I imagine PGI would probably want to hold off on any announcement of such until some point in time where it would make sense to make an big, exciting announcement. Not just a regular mechpack announcement at whatever time. :)

Edited by Steinar Bergstol, 10 August 2015 - 06:02 AM.


#10905 Lugh

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 06:04 AM

View PostSteinar Bergstol, on 31 July 2015 - 08:09 AM, said:


Imagine lances... No... No! Imagine full teams of 12 filled with beautiful, beautiful reimagined Unseen doing battle against eachother in MWO!

Excuse me. I think I need to have a little lie-down.

I'll be in my bunk.

#10906 Nathan Foxbane

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 06:05 AM

View PostSteinar Bergstol, on 10 August 2015 - 06:02 AM, said:

If it does come to pass that the Unseen shall descend unto the blighted fields of MWO and with their holy presence revitalize the ground upon which they walk...

... Then I imagine PGI would probably want to hold off on any announcement of such until some point in time where it would make sense to make an big, exciting announcement. Not just a regular mechpack announcement at whatever time. :)

They did keep quiet on the others until the community in general had given up all hope. I would not be surprised if they did the same here.

#10907 Odanan

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 11:03 AM

Fresh from Twitter:

@Fernand0Prado: "Hey PGI, now the Macross Unseen are back, why not releasing a big Project Phoenix 2?"

@russ_bullock: "it's certainly on our minds"

The return of the Macross Unseens would be the greatest Battletech achievement of the century!

#10908 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 11:05 AM

View PostOdanan, on 10 August 2015 - 11:03 AM, said:

Fresh from Twitter:

@Fernand0Prado: "Hey PGI, now the Macross Unseen are back, why not releasing a big Project Phoenix 2?"

@russ_bullock: "it's certainly on our minds"

The return of the Macross Unseens would be the greatest Battletech achievement of the century!

Don't hang me on the nearest tree, but i'd rather get Quads and Melee combat.
But that requires coding and putting actual thought into it, so it's not going to happen. Ever.

Which is why, i'm super excited for the upcoming Turn Based Battletech game. It might have them both. Which would be nice.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 10 August 2015 - 11:06 AM.


#10909 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 11:15 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 10 August 2015 - 11:05 AM, said:

Don't hang me on the nearest tree, but i'd rather get Quads and Melee combat.
But that requires coding and putting actual thought into it, so it's not going to happen. Ever.

Which is why, i'm super excited for the upcoming Turn Based Battletech game. It might have them both. Which would be nice.


You had my attention at Melee....annnnnd lost it at quads. Lol.

In any case, that new BT game has me interested for sure.

#10910 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 11:17 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 10 August 2015 - 11:15 AM, said:

You had my attention at Melee....annnnnd lost it at quads. Lol.

In any case, that new BT game has me interested for sure.

It's strange, because i mentioned Quads first. So i didn't have your attention at first, but got it with Melee? Or did i retroactively lost the attention, because i mentioned them at all?

I AM SO CONFUSED

I do like Quads, though.
Scorpion being my favorite BT mech of all time (It's a dougram Unseen, like the Phoenix mechs, but you know)

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 10 August 2015 - 11:19 AM.


#10911 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 11:49 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 10 August 2015 - 11:17 AM, said:

It's strange, because i mentioned Quads first. So i didn't have your attention at first, but got it with Melee? Or did i retroactively lost the attention, because i mentioned them at all?

I AM SO CONFUSED

I do like Quads, though.
Scorpion being my favorite BT mech of all time (It's a dougram Unseen, like the Phoenix mechs, but you know)


Then my evil plan is working...muhahaha!

I just never really thought of quad mechs as a MechWarrior thing. I know it is in Battletech and the Tarantula was briefly in MW2, but it just feels wrong to me.

Now as for Melee. It would take us one step closer to the Axman and an Adam Steiner Hero, and that would make me happy :).

#10912 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 11:52 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 10 August 2015 - 11:49 AM, said:


I just never really thought of quad mechs as a MechWarrior thing.


That's exactly what a lot of mechwarriors in-lore think too, so i can't really blame you.

I may be a hipster, but the fact that a lot of Mechwarrior hated the very IDEA of Quad 'mechs, makes me love them even more.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 10 August 2015 - 11:56 AM.


#10913 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 12:05 PM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 10 August 2015 - 11:52 AM, said:

That's exactly what a lot of mechwarriors in-lore think too, so i can't really blame you.

I may be a hipster, but the fact that a lot of Mechwarrior hated the very IDEA of Quad 'mechs, makes me love them even more.


I completely understand. I think that might be the case for me when it comes to the Urbanmech :D. Well, that and it is awesome!

#10914 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 12:06 PM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 10 August 2015 - 12:05 PM, said:

I completely understand. I think that might be the case for me when it comes to the Urbanmech :D. Well, that and it is awesome!

I love the Urbanmech.
If they don't have it, i won't be buying the Battletech game, EVEN IF IT HAS QUADS.

Also, i really love the "Notable pilots" of the Scorpion mech, like Wednall, who literally left the Lyrans, because he learned that they planned on destroying his Family Scorpion, or Klaus Schenker who named his mech "Unbreakable" after learning that he couldn't find any replacement limbs for it anymore and he managed to get more kills than the rest of his lance COMBINED.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 10 August 2015 - 12:12 PM.


#10915 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 12:44 PM

View PostOdanan, on 10 August 2015 - 11:03 AM, said:

Fresh from Twitter:

@Fernand0Prado: "Hey PGI, now the Macross Unseen are back, why not releasing a big Project Phoenix 2?"

@russ_bullock: "it's certainly on our minds"

The return of the Macross Unseens would be the greatest Battletech achievement of the century!

No, the greatest would be masterminding the complete dissolution of HG. But this would be a close second.

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 10 August 2015 - 11:05 AM, said:

Don't hang me on the nearest tree, but i'd rather get Quads and Melee combat.
But that requires coding and putting actual thought into it, so it's not going to happen. Ever.

Which is why, i'm super excited for the upcoming Turn Based Battletech game. It might have them both. Which would be nice.

Russ said Quads would never happen a very long time ago. Because the amount of programming for such a small number of mechs doesn't make sense, and I agree. But if enough were sold, perhaps they would relent. After all, we got Urbie made, didn't we?

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 12:46 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 10 August 2015 - 12:44 PM, said:

No, the greatest would be masterminding the complete dissolution of HG. But this would be a close second.


Russ said Quads would never happen a very long time ago. Because the amount of programming for such a small number of mechs doesn't make sense, and I agree. But if enough were sold, perhaps they would relent. After all, we got Urbie made, didn't we?

Did Russ say that, or did IGP say that via Russ? :D
I'm still holding out hope for the Flea too.

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 12:46 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 10 August 2015 - 12:44 PM, said:

Russ said Quads would never happen a very long time ago. Because the amount of programming for such a small number of mechs doesn't make sense, and I agree. But if enough were sold, perhaps they would relent. After all, we got Urbie made, didn't we?

I've lost hope for them (or melee combat) in MWO looooong time ago.

Now i'm hoping for them to be in the Harebrained Schemes' Battletech. :lol:

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 12:55 PM

View Postcdlord, on 10 August 2015 - 12:46 PM, said:

Did Russ say that, or did IGP say that via Russ? :D
I'm still holding out hope for the Flea too.

well no wRuss did say the Flea was dead to him like 4 months ago, I think in the townhall

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 01:39 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 10 August 2015 - 12:55 PM, said:

well no wRuss did say the Flea was dead to him like 4 months ago, I think in the townhall

TO be fair, Russ said "absolutely not" to a lot of things, yet we still got 3PV. NEVER SAY NEVER, NEVER SAY DIE! :D

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 02:50 PM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 10 August 2015 - 11:52 AM, said:

That's exactly what a lot of mechwarriors in-lore think too, so i can't really blame you.

I may be a hipster, but the fact that a lot of Mechwarrior hated the very IDEA of Quad 'mechs, makes me love them even more.


Well, you can't really blame the Mechwarriors in the BT universe for disliking the quads, or rather more specifically the Scorpion, since that particular mech is noted in the TRO for being a massively bumpy ride, to the point where after a little while in the cockpit you're not sure if your internal organs are gonna be shaken lose and out through your mouth or... the other end. :D

The other quads like the Goliath and Tarantula were not described as having such a punishing gait however. :)





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