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#11401 TheArisen

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Posted 09 November 2015 - 07:03 PM

Odanan is correct. I was looking at possible 95 tonners because the Banshee is the only IS 95 tonner.

I'd love to get the Gunslinger as well. The only real downside to it is it's tiny engine. You'd be quite vulnerable to faster teams. The Cerberus would have no such issue as it comes with an xl 380.

It seems like the Nightstar & Cerberus are the top two for 95 tonners from the tidbits I've gleaned.

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Posted 09 November 2015 - 07:07 PM

GSlinger looks like, a Highlander with a Donut problem!

#11403 Steinar Bergstol

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 04:49 AM

View PostHollow Earth, on 09 November 2015 - 05:57 PM, said:

And it's head looks like the front deck of a boat


Aaagh! Now I can't unsee that! I'll always see a boat there when I look at a Gunslinger now! :D

#11404 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 07:41 AM

View PostTheArisen, on 09 November 2015 - 07:03 PM, said:

Odanan is correct. I was looking at possible 95 tonners because the Banshee is the only IS 95 tonner.

I'd love to get the Gunslinger as well. The only real downside to it is it's tiny engine. You'd be quite vulnerable to faster teams. The Cerberus would have no such issue as it comes with an xl 380.

It seems like the Nightstar & Cerberus are the top two for 95 tonners from the tidbits I've gleaned.


Yeah, but no JJs or ECM, and the torso lasers are a lot lower. With speed tweak and Max engine it should be able to do 63-65 kph, plenty for an 85 ton non laser vomit

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 10 November 2015 - 07:45 AM.


#11405 TheArisen

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 11:47 AM

View PostSteinar Bergstol, on 10 November 2015 - 04:49 AM, said:


Aaagh! Now I can't unsee that! I'll always see a boat there when I look at a Gunslinger now! :D


The Gunslinger is actually a transformer. It's disguise is a yacht.

View PostBishop Steiner, on 10 November 2015 - 07:41 AM, said:


Yeah, but no JJs or ECM, and the torso lasers are a lot lower. With speed tweak and Max engine it should be able to do 63-65 kph, plenty for an 85 ton non laser vomit


Fair enough, neither mech is perfect.

#11406 Odanan

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 12:34 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 10 November 2015 - 11:47 AM, said:

The Gunslinger is actually a transformer. It's disguise is a yacht.

Land-Naval-Mech?

#11407 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 12:46 PM

View PostOdanan, on 10 November 2015 - 12:34 PM, said:

Land-Naval-Mech?

Land Aqua Mech :P

Everyone else reuses acronyms and duplicates them so why not? :D

#11408 TheArisen

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 01:47 PM

You know what's a cool thing about the Cerberus? It's arm ballistics are mounted on top of the arms. So it'd look like it's actually holding a gun.
http://www.sarna.net...or_Cerberus.jpg

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 01:53 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 10 November 2015 - 01:47 PM, said:

You know what's a cool thing about the Cerberus? It's arm ballistics are mounted on top of the arms. So it'd look like it's actually holding a gun.
http://www.sarna.net...or_Cerberus.jpg

PGI probably wouldn't do that though.....

#11410 Strum Wealh

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 04:24 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 10 November 2015 - 01:47 PM, said:

You know what's a cool thing about the Cerberus? It's arm ballistics are mounted on top of the arms. So it'd look like it's actually holding a gun.
http://www.sarna.net...or_Cerberus.jpg

Much of the BT artwork for the Atlas is set up the same way (e.g. with the arm-mounted weapons being on the "top" side of the forearm), and we saw how that turned out (the MWO Atlas having the weapon mounts moved to the outside-side of the forearm)...

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#11411 TheArisen

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 06:26 PM

View PostStrum Wealh, on 10 November 2015 - 04:24 PM, said:

Much of the BT artwork for the Atlas is set up the same way (e.g. with the arm-mounted weapons being on the "top" side of the forearm), and we saw how that turned out (the MWO Atlas having the weapon mounts moved to the outside-side of the forearm)...

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#11412 SgtMagor

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 08:51 AM

saw a thread called twisted metal, and memories of old Ps1 game came to mind, any who I just thought of what the Hero Akuma (someday SOON!) should be called "Sweet Tooth" Posted Image

#11413 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 09:09 AM

View PostSgtMagor, on 11 November 2015 - 08:51 AM, said:

saw a thread called twisted metal, and memories of old Ps1 game came to mind, any who I just thought of what the Hero Akuma (someday SOON!) should be called "Sweet Tooth"

Oh, Akuma! Love Alex's artwork of it!
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#11414 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 10:46 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 11 November 2015 - 09:09 AM, said:

Oh, Akuma! Love Alex's artwork of it!
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Looks like the Green Gobblin from that first spiderman movie with Tobey McGuire. I'm half expecting William Dafoe to creepily pop out of it.



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Honestly, Im not a fan of that mech.

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#11415 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 11:14 AM

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I never said i liked the Mech, i just liked the Artwork :lol:

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 04:46 PM

Let's talk about 40 tonners. This isn't necessarily about your first choice for next IS medium, just which 40 tonner is best. Similar to the 95 tonner discussion (which broke down because ppl thought they were choosing a first pick for next IS assault)

40 tonners:
#1 The Assassin, missile boat with some lasers. This one is my preferred 40 tonner. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Assassin

#2 The Clint, ballistics & lasers, JJ. Decent engine cap for it's weight. Would probably be a 40 ton panther 10P. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Clint

#3 Hermes II, same as Clint, no JJ but bigger engine. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hermes_II

#4 The Sentinel, mixed loadtout, no JJ. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Sentinel

#5 The Vulcan, Ballistic & energy, JJ, good engine cap. http://www.sarna.net...can_(BattleMech)

#6 The Whitworth, missile & lasers, smaller engine, JJ. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Whitworth

Which of these 6 would be the best addition to MWO? As I stated I like the Assassin the best.

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 05:21 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 11 November 2015 - 04:46 PM, said:

Let's talk about 40 tonners. This isn't necessarily about your first choice for next IS medium, just which 40 tonner is best. Similar to the 95 tonner discussion (which broke down because ppl thought they were choosing a first pick for next IS assault)

40 tonners:
#1 The Assassin, missile boat with some lasers. This one is my preferred 40 tonner. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Assassin

#2 The Clint, ballistics & lasers, JJ. Decent engine cap for it's weight. Would probably be a 40 ton panther 10P. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Clint

#3 Hermes II, same as Clint, no JJ but bigger engine. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hermes_II

#4 The Sentinel, mixed loadtout, no JJ. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Sentinel

#5 The Vulcan, Ballistic & energy, JJ, good engine cap. http://www.sarna.net...can_(BattleMech)

#6 The Whitworth, missile & lasers, smaller engine, JJ. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Whitworth

Which of these 6 would be the best addition to MWO? As I stated I like the Assassin the best.

Nice list.

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While I naturally want the Vulcan in part because of my redesign, I also admit, in part, it's number 2 because I doubt my design is even close to what Alex will make, which while undoubtedly cool, will just not hit me in the feels as well.

The Assassin is number 1, because of MW2Mercs nostalgia, great speed and jump ability, and likelihood of decent hardpoint inflation, of being at least 2/2/2 with each weapon system (Arm and each ST).

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 06:36 PM

I'm inclined towards the Assassin, due to versatility.

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 06:39 PM

Put me down as a supporter for Bishop's Assassin (that could be taken way out of context).

Also, two pages back, I would also support the Legionnaire, even though I doubt we'll advance that far.

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 08:30 PM

And here I come hoping that the Assassin is last on the list. I don't have the nostalgia from the older games, and the design is the epitome of hideous for me. Blech!

And now that that's off my chest I shall return to civility. Given it's huge engine and hardpoints, I think the Assassin would fare quite well in MWO. I would prefer to see the Clint and the Vulcan next however (and in that order). I am a lover of ballistics and jumpjets. :D Clint comes first because it will be hard not to see Bishop's Vulcan in MWO. :(





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