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#11861 Metus regem

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Posted 13 January 2016 - 12:59 PM

View Postwanderer, on 13 January 2016 - 12:54 PM, said:

Considering PGI already ghostheats UAC/20s, firing a RAC/20 on six-shot mode would likely explode the firing 'Mech. Heck, even RAC/2 or RAC/5's are going to have...interesting issues right now.



treat them like an Ultra, with just a shorter recycle time....

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 13 January 2016 - 11:25 AM, said:

Yeah, I think a Bushwacker might be in order Posted Image


I'm odly okay with the Bushwacker, I think she would suffer a case of Stalker syndrome, needing to be a standard engine, as she will have long, long ST's....

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Posted 13 January 2016 - 01:42 PM

View PostOdanan, on 13 January 2016 - 11:23 AM, said:

The medium weight is not badly represented.

IS has
8 light mechs,
11 medium mechs,
9 heavy mechs (12 counting Warhammer, Rifleman and Archer), and
9 assault mechs.

But yes, it's been a long time there is no new IS medium mech. Don´t worry, the Phoenix Hawk it's almost here (but considering the later Russ' tweets, it will be after the Clan Wave IV).

Reminds me... I need to rebuild my stuff from when I lost my HDD....

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Posted 13 January 2016 - 01:44 PM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 13 January 2016 - 11:25 AM, said:

Yeah, I think a Bushwacker might be in order Posted Image

shame my old dual AC10 model form MW3 will only be about half as effective in MWO....

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Posted 13 January 2016 - 02:34 PM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 13 January 2016 - 11:25 AM, said:


Yeah, I think the Assassin might be in order :)


FTFY

#11865 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 02:51 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 13 January 2016 - 11:25 AM, said:

Yeah, I think a Bushwacker might be in order Posted Image


View PostTheArisen, on 13 January 2016 - 02:34 PM, said:

+1


FTFY

Thank's by the way, glad you agree Posted Image

#11866 Steinar Bergstol

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 03:41 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 13 January 2016 - 11:25 AM, said:


Yeah, I think a Phoenix Hawk might be in order :)


View PostTheArisen, on 13 January 2016 - 02:34 PM, said:


Yeah, I think the Phoenix Hawk might be in order :)


FTF Both Of You. :D

#11867 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 03:52 AM

Phoenix Hawk is great and all, but it is time for the IS to get a nice ballistic mounting/chicken-walker/aircraft torso medium mech. It has enough humanoid mediums right now. The Phoenix Hawk can come after :).

P.S. We have the Crab (although I'm not sure what to consider those funky legs as).

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 03:57 AM

Well... If they wanna give us a Phoenix Hawk LAM in AirMech mode then I'm okay With that. There. You have Your Aircraft torso mech. Okay, it doesn't have chickenlegs, but... :D

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 04:36 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 14 January 2016 - 03:52 AM, said:

The Phoenix Hawk can come after Posted Image.

Heresy!

#11870 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 04:48 AM

View PostOdanan, on 14 January 2016 - 04:36 AM, said:

Heresy!


Lol.

Fine! :)

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 14 January 2016 - 04:48 AM.


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Posted 14 January 2016 - 04:55 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 14 January 2016 - 03:52 AM, said:

Phoenix Hawk is great and all, but it is time for the IS to get a nice ballistic mounting/chicken-walker/aircraft torso medium mech. It has enough humanoid mediums right now. The Phoenix Hawk can come after Posted Image.

P.S. We have the Crab (although I'm not sure what to consider those funky legs as).


That'd be the Bushwacker then. Both that and the Phoenix Hawk look like very good mediums. but i know people on here are dying to get their hands on the Phoenix Hawk.

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 05:31 AM

View PostHollow Earth, on 14 January 2016 - 04:55 AM, said:


That'd be the Bushwacker then. Both that and the Phoenix Hawk look like very good mediums. but i know people on here are dying to get their hands on the Phoenix Hawk.


Sadly the Bushwhacker would be mediocre at best in MWO.

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 05:35 AM

View PostOdanan, on 13 January 2016 - 11:23 AM, said:

The medium weight is not badly represented.

IS has
8 light mechs,
11 medium mechs,
9 heavy mechs (12 counting Warhammer, Rifleman and Archer), and
9 assault mechs.

But yes, it's been a long time there is no new IS medium mech. Don´t worry, the Phoenix Hawk it's almost here (but considering the later Russ' tweets, it will be after the Clan Wave IV).


Perhaps we should be thinking about light mechs, they're the least represented.

Aside from the unseen, the Javelin and Hussar (with inflation/buffs) look like they'd be solid.

#11874 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 05:43 AM

View PostTheArisen, on 14 January 2016 - 05:31 AM, said:


Sadly the Bushwhacker would be mediocre at best in MWO.


Like it or not, with quirks, anything can be good. Just depends how it would be treated by PGI.

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 05:43 AM

View PostTheArisen, on 14 January 2016 - 05:31 AM, said:


Sadly the Bushwhacker would be mediocre at best in MWO.


Yea, a lot of "iconic" mechs to some of the younger or rather newer introduced to MechWarrior pilots, is that a lot of the time their iconic mechs would either be average or worse in MWO. I got lucky, in that two iconic mechs for me, translated well, and a few others have not. The verdict is still out on the Warhammer, I hope she is graced with good hit boxes... Either way I'll still be using it.

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 06:46 AM

View PostTheArisen, on 14 January 2016 - 05:35 AM, said:

Perhaps we should be thinking about light mechs, they're the least represented.

Aside from the unseen, the Javelin and Hussar (with inflation/buffs) look like they'd be solid.

Wasp is certain, but will PGI also release the Stinger and the Valkyrie? If yes, the light weight will be well represented.

PS: Hussar is bad.

PPS: Valkyrie can replace the Javelin.

View PostMetus regem, on 14 January 2016 - 05:43 AM, said:

Yea, a lot of "iconic" mechs to some of the younger or rather newer introduced to MechWarrior pilots, is that a lot of the time their iconic mechs would either be average or worse in MWO. I got lucky, in that two iconic mechs for me, translated well, and a few others have not. The verdict is still out on the Warhammer, I hope she is graced with good hit boxes... Either way I'll still be using it.

Everything can change with a 20+% quirk...
Now I wish the Trebuchets got some love - it must be a year or more I don´t see one in the field.

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 07:00 AM

View PostOdanan, on 14 January 2016 - 06:46 AM, said:

Wasp is certain, but will PGI also release the Stinger and the Valkyrie? If yes, the light weight will be well represented.

PS: Hussar is bad.

PPS: Valkyrie can replace the Javelin.


Everything can change with a 20+% quirk...
Now I wish the Trebuchets got some love - it must be a year or more I don´t see one in the field.


If the Hussar got a little HP inflation it'd be a good mech. Giving it 2-3 more HP would even be enough.

The Javelin would be slightly better than the Valkyrie because it'd be able to use a bigger engine, it comes with a 180 versus the Val's 150.

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 07:16 AM

View PostTheArisen, on 14 January 2016 - 07:00 AM, said:

If the Hussar got a little HP inflation it'd be a good mech. Giving it 2-3 more HP would even be enough.

Only if the mech's single weapon wasn´t in the CT.

View PostTheArisen, on 14 January 2016 - 07:00 AM, said:

The Javelin would be slightly better than the Valkyrie because it'd be able to use a bigger engine, it comes with a 180 versus the Val's 150.

That's true.

Edited by Odanan, 14 January 2016 - 07:16 AM.


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Posted 14 January 2016 - 07:38 AM

View PostTheArisen, on 14 January 2016 - 05:31 AM, said:

Sadly the Bushwhacker would be mediocre at best in MWO.


Folks said the same thing about the Shadowhawk once.

The crab does well for what it is, the problem a lot of folks have with it is it is VERY boring to skill up since all the variants are basically copy/paste.

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 07:47 AM

View PostOdanan, on 14 January 2016 - 06:46 AM, said:




Everything can change with a 20+% quirk...
Now I wish the Trebuchets got some love - it must be a year or more I don´t see one in the field.


Quirks can't fix bad geometry.... Look at the Awesome, TT a Death dealing monster, here its a walking barn door, I love mine by the way.... The Firestarter in TT is kind of meh, here it's nearly broken due to lag sheilds, and questionable hit boxes as well as questionable hit registration....





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