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Posted 11 April 2016 - 10:34 AM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 11 April 2016 - 04:39 AM, said:



It still burns me up that the Shadow Cat is an absolutely ideal 45 ton platform in the physical design, pod space, mobility, and utility aspect, but because PGI refuses to give it any sort of hardpoint inflation or invent an energy based left torso omnipod the mech is pigeonholed so strongly into the role of "long range tickle stick," because if you try and brawl with it you're better off with an Ice Ferret. :\


Eh, if they just made the STs skinnier I think I'd consider it fine. The MASC change is pretty big, and I brawl all day in mine with a UAC10 and 2xERML.

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 10:35 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 11 April 2016 - 10:34 AM, said:


Eh, if they just made the STs skinnier I think I'd consider it fine. The MASC change is pretty big, and I brawl all day in mine with a UAC10 and 2xERML.


It isn't a bad build, but if you brawl with it it might be a better option for you to stick that UAC10 in the ST and ditch the ECM. Then you can do 3 ERMLas and a UAC10. Mean little Shadow Cat like that. The mech doesn't quite have the energy flexibility to pack a mid range energy punch, and its long range firepower is relegated to 2 LPLas, 3 ERLLas, or 2 ERPPC. The first of which is OK damage, but can't trade at all against IS LPlas BJs, the second which is OK, but has a stupidly long burn duration, and the third which would be fine if it wasn't for how bloody hot the ERPPC are. :\

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 11 April 2016 - 10:37 AM.


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Posted 11 April 2016 - 11:09 AM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 11 April 2016 - 10:35 AM, said:


It isn't a bad build, but if you brawl with it it might be a better option for you to stick that UAC10 in the ST and ditch the ECM. Then you can do 3 ERMLas and a UAC10. Mean little Shadow Cat like that. The mech doesn't quite have the energy flexibility to pack a mid range energy punch, and its long range firepower is relegated to 2 LPLas, 3 ERLLas, or 2 ERPPC. The first of which is OK damage, but can't trade at all against IS LPlas BJs, the second which is OK, but has a stupidly long burn duration, and the third which would be fine if it wasn't for how bloody hot the ERPPC are. :\


I do run the uac in the st. Prefer the lasers in the arms. Don't like the heat from the 3rd laser.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 11 April 2016 - 11:10 AM.


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Posted 14 April 2016 - 11:20 AM

Hey Odanan, the link under the Assignement Table spoiler button in the OP is busted, or at least it's busted for me.

It's the one crediting Sennin and pointing to where the info is compiled from:
"Info compiled from here. (thanks to Sennin for finding the link)."

Feel free to disregard, if this is a known problem.

Edited by Virlutris, 14 April 2016 - 11:20 AM.


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Posted 14 April 2016 - 12:58 PM

View PostVirlutris, on 14 April 2016 - 11:20 AM, said:

Hey Odanan, the link under the Assignement Table spoiler button in the OP is busted, or at least it's busted for me.

It's the one crediting Sennin and pointing to where the info is compiled from:
"Info compiled from here. (thanks to Sennin for finding the link)."

Feel free to disregard, if this is a known problem.

Yeah, broken link is broken.
I will upload the files in my own Google Drive. ;)

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 01:12 PM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 11 April 2016 - 10:35 AM, said:


It isn't a bad build, but if you brawl with it it might be a better option for you to stick that UAC10 in the ST and ditch the ECM. Then you can do 3 ERMLas and a UAC10. Mean little Shadow Cat like that. The mech doesn't quite have the energy flexibility to pack a mid range energy punch, and its long range firepower is relegated to 2 LPLas, 3 ERLLas, or 2 ERPPC. The first of which is OK damage, but can't trade at all against IS LPlas BJs, the second which is OK, but has a stupidly long burn duration, and the third which would be fine if it wasn't for how bloody hot the ERPPC are. :\



I'm toying with the idea of picking up a SadCat and giving this build a spin, I think it has a decent punch at mid to short range...

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 02:03 PM

From Russ Twitter:

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So Wednesday the 20th we will put up the new IS mech for sale.

IS mech! Many people thought it was a Clan mech...

So, which mech it will be? My guesses are:
- Wasp, or
- Stinger, or
- Longbow, or
- Crusader, or
- Ostroc.

BTW, early May they will announce another Clan mech. ;)

One IS and 1 Clan mech each month? Now that's what I'm talking about!!

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 04:21 PM

View PostOdanan, on 14 April 2016 - 02:03 PM, said:

From Russ Twitter:

IS mech! Many people thought it was a Clan mech...

So, which mech it will be? My guesses are:
- Wasp, or
- Stinger, or
- Longbow, or
- Crusader, or
- Ostroc.

BTW, early May they will announce another Clan mech. ;)

One IS and 1 Clan mech each month? Now that's what I'm talking about!!


InB4 Cyclops. They've had the art for it since before the Res1 pack assault poll, and Russ said it was one they already had.

Wish I could remember some of the others Russ has mentioned. He's mentioned a few more that Alex has concept art already done for, possibly in the Town Halls.

Edit: I could go for a 40-tonner or an Unseen light, myself.

Edited by Virlutris, 14 April 2016 - 04:23 PM.


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Posted 14 April 2016 - 04:23 PM

I hope Alex makes wonders with the Cyclops art, because the ones on Sarna looks ugly as all underworld...

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 04:39 PM

View PostVirlutris, on 14 April 2016 - 04:21 PM, said:


InB4 Cyclops. They've had the art for it since before the Res1 pack assault poll, and Russ said it was one they already had.

Wish I could remember some of the others Russ has mentioned. He's mentioned a few more that Alex has concept art already done for, possibly in the Town Halls.

Edit: I could go for a 40-tonner or an Unseen light, myself.


Ohh what if it's the Assassin? :D

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 06:01 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 14 April 2016 - 04:39 PM, said:

Ohh what if it's the Assassin? Posted Image


That'd be okay by me.

Another one I forgot to mention, that was mentioned in another thread: The Longbow.

85 tons, Unseen, not-a-heavy. I'd be totally okay with that. I'd probably be happier with it than the Cyclops, honestly.

What I don't remember is whether it's one of the mechs Russ has metioned as having art. There are several more in addition to the Cyclops, and I'm restraining myself from picking through the Townhalls to find it. Posted Image

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 07:19 PM

View PostVirlutris, on 14 April 2016 - 06:01 PM, said:


That'd be okay by me.

Another one I forgot to mention, that was mentioned in another thread: The Longbow.

85 tons, Unseen, not-a-heavy. I'd be totally okay with that. I'd probably be happier with it than the Cyclops, honestly.

What I don't remember is whether it's one of the mechs Russ has metioned as having art. There are several more in addition to the Cyclops, and I'm restraining myself from picking through the Townhalls to find it. Posted Image


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Posted 15 April 2016 - 04:17 AM

We know they have the Cyclops and Flea and I do want to see these two mechs in game.

I would also like to see one more of the Classics too.

I'm also not opposed to being pleasantly surprised either.

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 06:18 AM

View PostCD LoreHammer Lord, on 15 April 2016 - 04:17 AM, said:

We know they have the Cyclops and Flea and I do want to see these two mechs in game.

I would also like to see one more of the Classics too.

I'm also not opposed to being pleasantly surprised either.

They probably have the Charger, since it was in the assault poll with the Zeus and Cyclops.

I suppose it will be another "Classic" (Macross Unseen), but the Charger or Assassin or Javelin would make me really happy.

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 06:32 AM

There is one interesting piece of information (on Townhall+Twitter): Russ said there would be 2 mediums (one of them is the Viper) and 2 heavies next. Was he talking about only the Clans? Or will we see 1 of each class for both Clan and IS?

PS: Russ said in the Twitter the next IS mech won't be the Flea. (thanks God)

Edited by Odanan, 15 April 2016 - 09:25 AM.


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Posted 15 April 2016 - 06:34 AM

View PostOdanan, on 15 April 2016 - 06:18 AM, said:

They probably have the Charger, since it was in the assault poll with the Zeus and Cyclops.

I suppose it will be another "Classic" (Macross Unseen), but the Charger or Assassin or Javelin would make me really happy.


With out true collisions or melee, I think the Charger will be really lacking... But I'd be on-board with the Assassin.

View PostOdanan, on 15 April 2016 - 06:32 AM, said:

There is one interesting piece of information (on Townhall+Twitter): Russ said there would be next 2 mediums (one of them is the Viper) and 2 heavies next. Was he talking about only the Clans? Or will we see 1 of each class for both Clan and IS?

PS: Russ said in the Twitter the next IS mech won't be the Flea. (thanks God)


Yes, that's why it wasn't a four pack of Clan Omni-mechs, he couldn't find any Assualt class Omni-Mechs he was happy with in the current time frame requirements.

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 07:30 AM

He said Clans will get a run now simular to what the Unseen fans gots. IMO it's better to do every other because "droughts" for your factions mechs suck and keeping people interested. I am own mainly only clans, only IS mech I own is a Black Knight 6 set up as pure meta for OPFOR.

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 08:26 AM

View PostOdanan, on 15 April 2016 - 06:32 AM, said:

PS: Russ said in the Twitter the next IS mech won't be the Flea. (thanks God)

Boooooo!

I want Fleas!

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Posted 15 April 2016 - 08:32 AM

View PostCD LoreHammer Lord, on 15 April 2016 - 08:26 AM, said:

Boooooo!

I want Fleas!


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Posted 15 April 2016 - 09:23 AM

View PostCD LoreHammer Lord, on 15 April 2016 - 08:26 AM, said:

Boooooo!

I want Fleas!

The things people want... :P





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