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#13061 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 01 May 2016 - 06:07 AM

View PostOdanan, on 30 April 2016 - 06:14 PM, said:

And I know how I want to paint mine....
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why would you paint your Night Gyr to look like an Arctic Cheetah.......?























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#13062 Odanan

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Posted 01 May 2016 - 11:56 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 01 May 2016 - 06:07 AM, said:

why would you paint your Night Gyr to look like an Arctic Cheetah.......?

OK, perhaps this is more appropriate:
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Posted 01 May 2016 - 08:35 PM

View PostHit the Deck, on 01 May 2016 - 03:46 AM, said:

I also like how our Night Gyr looks in general but to be fair, her head is a bit too big and the face looks too much like an eye. Alex should have broken the "eye outline" while preserving her unique cockpit glass look.


It'll have a head energy mount, so we might very well get a "monoeye" look.

But it's still no Zaku, boy. No Zaku.

#13064 Navid A1

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Posted 02 May 2016 - 02:00 AM

Ok... so according to Russ, we're gonna have a medium Omni and a heavy Omni after the night gyr.

Huntsman would be nice... a very powerful 50-tonner. with about 23 tons of pod sapce and 5 fixed JJs, and as fast (or slow) as a nova.

any idea about what heavy might the other be? (assuming the NovaCat is out of the picture)

Edited by Navid A1, 02 May 2016 - 02:01 AM.


#13065 Karl Streiger

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Posted 02 May 2016 - 02:11 AM

They don't have much options.... all my bets are on Black Lanner and Linebacker (not because they are great - they are not - but because majority think they will be great - but i really really wish the Clans the BattleCobra and the Crossbow Posted Image Posted Image )

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Posted 02 May 2016 - 03:33 AM

View PostKarl Streiger, on 02 May 2016 - 02:11 AM, said:

They don't have much options.... all my bets are on Black Lanner and Linebacker (not because they are great - they are not - but because majority think they will be great - but i really really wish the Clans the BattleCobra and the Crossbow Posted Image Posted Image )


Just checked the black lanner....

and OMG... it has MASC... please NO...NO..NO NO...
Not another Sh* medium with useless locked equipment

MASC is a recipe for failure on a medium.

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Posted 02 May 2016 - 04:00 AM

heh OD, Samus has abone to pick with U, Posted Image

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Posted 02 May 2016 - 05:09 AM

When will be announced the preorder and release date for the Night Gyr?

Thanks,
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Posted 02 May 2016 - 05:10 AM

View PostKarl Streiger, on 02 May 2016 - 02:11 AM, said:

They don't have much options.... all my bets are on Black Lanner and Linebacker (not because they are great - they are not - but because majority think they will be great - but i really really wish the Clans the BattleCobra and the Crossbow Posted Image Posted Image )

Anything is better than the Battle Cobra and the Crossbow.

The Linebacker is a no-brain for the next heavy, and this is simply because of the lack of real competition. It's a "cavalry" heavy mech, with speed over firepower. Because of the engine size, it doesn't have much weight to put on weapons, but at least it would be an unique heavy for the Clans.

And while the Clans have a lot of mediums, most of them have some issue.
Black Lanner is popular due to speed, ECM and hardpoints, but has small pod space. If it gets a hero with jumpjets, it will be a nice alternative for the Stormcrow.
Huntsman is a very balanced mech, but not very known out there; and somewhat similar with the Nova (worst hardpoints but more tonnage to play). Now the Nova will be resized, chances for the Huntsman will be lower.
The Pouncer is (for the good or the bad) basically a jumping Adder, 5 tons heavier.
The Coyotl is probably the best of the remaining Clan medium omnimechs, but mostly extinct and unknown.

I think they will follow the polls and add the Black Lanner. And I'm really looking forward for the concept art.

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Posted 02 May 2016 - 05:36 AM

View PostNavid A1, on 02 May 2016 - 02:00 AM, said:

Ok... so according to Russ, we're gonna have a medium Omni and a heavy Omni after the night gyr.

Huntsman would be nice... a very powerful 50-tonner. with about 23 tons of pod sapce and 5 fixed JJs, and as fast (or slow) as a nova.

any idea about what heavy might the other be? (assuming the NovaCat is out of the picture)


24 actually. Posted Image

And the Pouncer is another not-terrible medium option. It looks like an oversized Adder, one of its configurations looks like an Adder, but since it can take up to 11 energy hardpoints and jumps, it's more like a 40-ton, 100 KPH Nova, with about 15 tons of pod space. Even has 2 extra DHS baked in. As far as overall capabilities go, that is. Hell, it is even similar to a 5-ton lighter Blackjack.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 02 May 2016 - 05:37 AM.


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Posted 02 May 2016 - 05:58 AM

I kinda want the Night Gyr as my place holder nova cat... I just got so much fun alpha striking in those and over heating for hours in MW4 mercs... and killing the ai's with just a flea as they always alpha strike first thing from powering back up even on expert mode... makes you feel like a bad arse for defeating a lance of those in a light mech against ai's or defeating players in 2-3 alphas in MW4...

but even with much less glamer and more balance i would love it in MW: O too.... but if the next heavy is a line backer my moneys on that... I like the looks more.

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Edited by Nightshade24, 02 May 2016 - 06:00 AM.


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Posted 02 May 2016 - 06:02 AM

View PostNightshade24, on 02 May 2016 - 05:58 AM, said:

I kinda want the Night Gyr as my place holder nova cat... I just got so much fun alpha striking in those and over heating for hours in MW4 mercs... and killing the ai's with just a flea as they always alpha strike first thing from powering back up even on expert mode... makes you feel like a bad arse for defeating a lance of those in a light mech against ai's or defeating players in 2-3 alphas in MW4...

but even with much less glamer and more balance i would love it in MW: O too.... but if the next heavy is a line backer my moneys on that... I like the looks more.


It's just a shame the Night Gyr is so critical space starved that it could never effectively run a Nova Cat Prime's configuration.

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Maybe 9 extra DHS with 2x ERPPC and 3x ERLLas, putting it to 21 DHS.

Edit: Image from MegaMekLab.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 02 May 2016 - 06:04 AM.


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Posted 02 May 2016 - 06:15 AM

View Postinvernomuto, on 02 May 2016 - 05:09 AM, said:

When will be announced the preorder and release date for the Night Gyr?

Thanks,
D.

"Hopefully up for sale next [meaning this] week" - Townhall, around 42 minutes. ;)

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Posted 02 May 2016 - 06:36 AM

View PostNightshade24, on 02 May 2016 - 05:58 AM, said:

but even with much less glamer and more balance i would love it in MW: O too.... but if the next heavy is a line backer my moneys on that... I like the looks more.

It looks good, at least:
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Posted 02 May 2016 - 06:41 AM

View PostOdanan, on 02 May 2016 - 06:36 AM, said:

It looks good, at least:


I'm still waiting for the "looks good" pics.......

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 02 May 2016 - 06:41 AM.


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Posted 02 May 2016 - 07:05 AM

Those pictures look good indeed, which is a testament to the artist's skill. The 'Mech itself on the other hand....

But PGI have another great artist who is able to turn **** into gold. So there's hope!

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Posted 02 May 2016 - 08:10 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 02 May 2016 - 06:41 AM, said:

I'm still waiting for the "looks good" pics.......

OK, arms, legs and that thing below the head (chin?) are ugly, but I really like the shape of the torsos and the head/cockpit.

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Posted 02 May 2016 - 08:12 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 02 May 2016 - 06:41 AM, said:

I'm still waiting for the "looks good" pics.......


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WELL DONE GHOST BEAR. BUT THIS IS WHERE YOU DIE.

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Posted 02 May 2016 - 08:22 AM

View PostOdanan, on 02 May 2016 - 06:36 AM, said:

It looks good, at least:
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It looks like a guinea pig wearing power armor or something.

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Posted 02 May 2016 - 08:24 AM

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IDK, I'm kinda partial to the stance. At least it looks sorta like its namesake.





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