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#14901 TheArisen

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 05:47 PM

View PostOdanan, on 04 November 2016 - 05:34 PM, said:

The larger window.

I like how this concept art makes people scratch their heads about that subject, just like the original one.

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That'd be terrible placement, you couldn't look down at all with that.

#14902 Odanan

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 05:56 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 04 November 2016 - 05:47 PM, said:

That'd be terrible placement, you couldn't look down at all with that.

Yeah, some mechs barely have a "working" glass cockpit. That's because in the TT (and novels), mechwarriors rely more more on cameras fed directly in their neurohelmets, instead of actual eye visuals.

See the original Marauder, or Stinger.

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 07:43 PM

View PostOdanan, on 04 November 2016 - 05:56 PM, said:

Yeah, some mechs barely have a "working" glass cockpit. That's because in the TT (and novels), mechwarriors rely more more on cameras fed directly in their neurohelmets, instead of actual eye visuals.

See the original Marauder, or Stinger.


Fair enough but the Assassin is known for having a cramped cockpit so that thing on top would clash with that IMO.

#14904 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 11:06 PM

I wanted a Vulcan. Posted Image

I'm not sure if i'll buy the pack.
Might end up waiting for it to come out for c-bills instead.

I'm also not entirely a fan of the digitigrade legs on this new Assassin, i would've preferred the more vanilla humanoid bipedal legs.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 04 November 2016 - 11:13 PM.


#14905 xVLFBERHxT

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 11:12 PM

View PostUncle Totty, on 04 November 2016 - 04:35 PM, said:


Ah, beat me to it.

So where is the cockpit on this thing any way? Posted Image


I think the smal window is the cockpit...

Edited by TrapJaw80, 04 November 2016 - 11:12 PM.


#14906 Odanan

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 02:08 PM

So... Assassin. Good! (need to update my signature)

I'm curious to know which Clan mech you guys think will be the next.

Here are some candidates:

- Hellhound/Conjurer (with the risk of one crowd or the other to say "this doesn't look like a Hellhound")
- Black Lanner
- Fire Moth (despite the policy of no light mech pack and the troubled speed limit)
- Rifleman IIC
- Black Python
- Bane (heck, I love this mech - but it can wait)
- Warhammer IIC (another Clan assault battlemech so soon?)
- Stone Rhino (yet another Clan assault battlemech)

I want the Firemoth, but would be very happy with anything in the list, except the last two (at least for now).

#14907 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 02:25 PM

View PostOdanan, on 05 November 2016 - 02:08 PM, said:

So... Assassin. Good! (need to update my signature)

I'm curious to know which Clan mech you guys think will be the next.

Here are some candidates:

- Hellhound/Conjurer (with the risk of one crowd or the other to say "this doesn't look like a Hellhound")
- Black Lanner
- Fire Moth (despite the policy of no light mech pack and the troubled speed limit)
- Rifleman IIC
- Black Python
- Bane (heck, I love this mech - but it can wait)
- Warhammer IIC (another Clan assault battlemech so soon?)
- Stone Rhino (yet another Clan assault battlemech)

I want the Firemoth, but would be very happy with anything in the list, except the last two (at least for now).


Fire Falcon is still on the table, for lights, as well. I suppose the Locust IIC, but it honestly I personally couldn't be excited for any IIC.

#14908 Fyrwulf

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 10:26 PM

Black Lanner and Kraken are my hopes. Kraken 3 would completely break the meta and make the Spreadsheet Rangers wail.

#14909 Justin Kase

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 10:29 PM

Will it be another Clan 'mech next? Or IS?

#14910 Odanan

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 02:46 AM

View PostJustin Kase, on 05 November 2016 - 10:29 PM, said:

Will it be another Clan 'mech next? Or IS?

Probably Clan.
It looks like PGI reached the Clan-IS-Clan-IS... point.

#14911 Odanan

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 02:59 AM

BTW, Russ said there will be light mech packs released in the Twitter yesterday. He didn't say when, but my hopes for the Fire Moth just intensified! (specially because of the Assassin's announcement - it looks like there are still some classic gems left at the bottom of the barre)

#14912 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 03:48 AM

View PostOdanan, on 06 November 2016 - 02:59 AM, said:

BTW, Russ said there will be light mech packs released in the Twitter yesterday. He didn't say when, but my hopes for the Fire Moth just intensified! (specially because of the Assassin's announcement - it looks like there are still some classic gems left at the bottom of the barre)

I'm hoping for a Javelin.
(or a Tarantula Posted Image)

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 04:09 AM

View PostOdanan, on 04 November 2016 - 05:56 PM, said:

Yeah, some mechs barely have a "working" glass cockpit. That's because in the TT (and novels), mechwarriors rely more more on cameras fed directly in their neurohelmets, instead of actual eye visuals.

See the original Marauder, or Stinger.


Yeah, I mean. Why do mechs have glass canopies at all? Besides looking good? Wouldnt it be alot more practical and safe to have solid armor all over where the cockpit glass are. But have several sensor nodes through that feeds an overall view to the HUD in the helmet?

#14914 Odanan

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 05:13 AM

View PostTordin, on 06 November 2016 - 04:09 AM, said:

Yeah, I mean. Why do mechs have glass canopies at all? Besides looking good? Wouldnt it be alot more practical and safe to have solid armor all over where the cockpit glass are. But have several sensor nodes through that feeds an overall view to the HUD in the helmet?

Maybe the glass canopies are a backup in case electronics go down.

Or people just enjoy seeing the landscape.

View PostFyrwulf, on 05 November 2016 - 10:26 PM, said:

Black Lanner and Kraken are my hopes. Kraken 3 would completely break the meta and make the Spreadsheet Rangers wail.

Hey, is this a Falconer in your signature? Looks very much a Alex's work.

#14915 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 05:16 AM

View PostOdanan, on 06 November 2016 - 05:13 AM, said:

Hey, is this a Falconer in your signature? Looks very much a Alex's work.

That's actually Shimmering Sword's artwork.
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Posted 06 November 2016 - 05:25 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 06 November 2016 - 05:16 AM, said:

That's actually Shimmering Sword's artwork.
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Lovely mechs! Great art!

#14917 Tordin

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 11:02 AM

A Falconer and Sagittaire those redesigns are awesome. Oh I do want that Sagittaire, reminds me of.. Sagittarius, my starsign, now I need one Posted Image

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 11:10 AM

When we get to that era, the FW matches should be interesting for sure. I can not wait to face off against some of these new mechs in my MK II. Honestly does get me a bit excited to think of these show downs and maybe some meta swings ^.^

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 11:14 AM

We need new tech though, to really make some interesting builds with all these new interesting mechs.

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 01:12 PM

View PostTordin, on 06 November 2016 - 11:14 AM, said:

We need new tech though, to really make some interesting builds with all these new interesting mechs.


I'd settle for the IS knock offs of the Clan Tech... Though to be honest I am concerned how they would handle UAC/10' and 20's... A case can be made for them to be either multi-shot or single shot.... I think single shot UAC/10's and 20's would be seriously OP, but they cannot have large bursts with out being down right worse than the Clan versions.

Personally I think if they were to add the IS ERML, than the cERML should be balanced against that, rather than against the current MLas. As trying to balance the cERML against a short range weapon is just asking for trouble, leading to the range nerfs it has gone through since it's introduction.





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