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#18801 Metus regem

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 10:20 AM

I don't know, I think the Pixi IIC could slip past...

50/50 on this version:

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I'd give this one 70/30

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#18802 Odanan

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 12:19 PM

So, we agree this
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will show up in a week, right?

(maybe a little more time ahead because of the Solaris 7 hero pack)

#18803 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 12:25 PM

View PostOdanan, on 22 February 2018 - 12:19 PM, said:

So, we agree this
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will show up in a week, right?

(maybe a little more time ahead because of the Solaris 7 hero pack)

I would not mind an Argus.

One of my favorite mechs, that is (at least in this timeline, i guess).

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 22 February 2018 - 12:25 PM.


#18804 Fyrwulf

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 12:29 PM

This version of the Longbow sidesteps the Unseen issue entirely. If I can get this and the Sagittaire, I'll be happy.

http://cfw.sarna.net...=20130406204746

Edited by Fyrwulf, 22 February 2018 - 12:29 PM.


#18805 Metus regem

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 12:39 PM

View PostFyrwulf, on 22 February 2018 - 12:29 PM, said:

This version of the Longbow sidesteps the Unseen issue entirely. If I can get this and the Sagittaire, I'll be happy.

http://cfw.sarna.net...=20130406204746



I'd be down for the Longbow, but I'd want the 13NAIS version with LAC/5's....


View PostOdanan, on 22 February 2018 - 12:19 PM, said:

So, we agree this
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will show up in a week, right?

(maybe a little more time ahead because of the Solaris 7 hero pack)



The tank, fore sure, frack the Argus though... I want to ruin someone's day with a Rommel/Patton, Demolisher or what would be the meta Alacron....

#18806 Fyrwulf

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 02:32 PM

At this point my wish list boils down to the following:

Must Have
Longbow
Sagittaire

Nice To Have
Glass Spider
Stone Rhino
Kraken
Turkina
Viking
Templar
Blood Kite
Savage Coyote

#18807 Odanan

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Posted 27 February 2018 - 11:15 AM

2 days!!

#18808 Metus regem

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Posted 27 February 2018 - 11:23 AM

View PostOdanan, on 27 February 2018 - 11:15 AM, said:

2 days!!



Lets hope they do something truly bonkers and give us some tanks... I mean we've got 360 degree turret control, thanks to the Urbanmech, we have abysmal hill climbing ability thanks to slugs like the Dire Wolf....

Hell if they are worried about IK, then they could go with giving us hover vehicles rather than treads or wheeled....


Yea the more I think about this, given PGI's ability and their FrankinCode, the more I think they could make tanks work!

Edited by Metus regem, 27 February 2018 - 11:23 AM.


#18809 Odanan

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 02:51 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 27 February 2018 - 11:23 AM, said:



Lets hope they do something truly bonkers and give us some tanks... I mean we've got 360 degree turret control, thanks to the Urbanmech, we have abysmal hill climbing ability thanks to slugs like the Dire Wolf....

Hell if they are worried about IK, then they could go with giving us hover vehicles rather than treads or wheeled....

Yea the more I think about this, given PGI's ability and their FrankinCode, the more I think they could make tanks work!

The quick play was not designed with vehicles in mind, specially in the hand of the players, but I would love to see AI-controlled vehicles in Faction Play.

#18810 Metus regem

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 07:45 AM

View PostOdanan, on 28 February 2018 - 02:51 AM, said:

The quick play was not designed with vehicles in mind, specially in the hand of the players, but I would love to see AI-controlled vehicles in Faction Play.



Don't care if it was designed with them in mind, the game was designed with out an idea of a lot of features we have now....

Besides a tank would be at a slight disadvantage to a mech, but I still think they would make a great option to use as players... as I said, I want to ruin someone's day in a demolisher / demolisher II / devastator (demolisher variant with twin HGR's)....

#18811 Odanan

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 09:57 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 28 February 2018 - 07:45 AM, said:



Don't care if it was designed with them in mind, the game was designed with out an idea of a lot of features we have now....

Besides a tank would be at a slight disadvantage to a mech, but I still think they would make a great option to use as players... as I said, I want to ruin someone's day in a demolisher / demolisher II / devastator (demolisher variant with twin HGR's)....

You don't understand. A tank wouldn't be able to move over most part of the existing maps. Would you like to play with a vehicle that can't access places even the slowest Annihilator can reach?

Besides, vehicles in general (even the most armored tanks) are very fragile and can blow even if their armor (in that particular component) is not totally destroyed.

The silver limning is: thanks to the mod support, you will be able to pilot tanks in MW5.

BTW, Argus tomorrow?

#18812 Metus regem

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:15 AM

View PostOdanan, on 28 February 2018 - 09:57 AM, said:

You don't understand. A tank wouldn't be able to move over most part of the existing maps. Would you like to play with a vehicle that can't access places even the slowest Annihilator can reach?

Besides, vehicles in general (even the most armored tanks) are very fragile and can blow even if their armor (in that particular component) is not totally destroyed.

The silver limning is: thanks to the mod support, you will be able to pilot tanks in MW5.

BTW, Argus tomorrow?



I know all that Odana, that was why I suggested even limiting it to hover vehicles so that they could have some hill climb ability.

Edited by Metus regem, 28 February 2018 - 10:15 AM.


#18813 ramp4ge

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:55 AM

Let's fix the Nightstar.

1) Change structure quirks to armor quirks on all variants
2) Allow for the removal of hand actuators which serve absolutely no purpose at all and would free up some much-needed slots

I think those two things alone would make an enormous difference.

#18814 TheArisen

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 12:07 PM

View Postramp4ge, on 28 February 2018 - 10:55 AM, said:

Let's fix the Nightstar.

1) Change structure quirks to armor quirks on all variants
2) Allow for the removal of hand actuators which serve absolutely no purpose at all and would free up some much-needed slots

I think those two things alone would make an enormous difference.


I agree with this.

#18815 Odanan

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 01:56 PM

The good side is IS is getting another 20 tonner. The bad side it's not the Wasp. :(

Holly Mechromancy!!

#18816 Metus regem

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 01:59 PM

View PostOdanan, on 01 March 2018 - 01:56 PM, said:

The good side is IS is getting another 20 tonner. The bad side it's not the Wasp. Posted Image

Holly Mechromancy!!



Or the Stinger, Mercury, Hornet... well really anything other than the Flea....

#18817 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 01:59 PM

So the Flea is next on the chopping block.


To be honest, i did not see that coming.

#18818 Jay Leon Hart

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 02:02 PM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 01 March 2018 - 01:59 PM, said:

To be honest, i did not see that coming.

Of course not, they're tiny! Posted Image

#18819 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 02:05 PM

View PostJay Leon Hart, on 01 March 2018 - 02:02 PM, said:

Of course not, they're tiny! Posted Image

Touché

#18820 ramp4ge

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 02:07 PM

3 energy hardpoints and 6 MGs on the hero.

Because MG boating isn't already an issue.





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