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[Jack Gallows]

Strum Wealh, on 17 August 2013 - 02:50 PM, said:

Though, who is the current pilot (circa 3050) of the Katana Kat?

Or they would have to make up a younger member of the Tetsuhara family (or a family friend) to fill the role.

Thoughts?

This is highly probable, but considering that not all Hero 'mechs are created from per-existing sources I don't think it'd be an issue. Could be from the Tesuhara family, or they could make up their own Panther...there's plenty of room there for creativity!

Edited by Jack Gallows, 17 August 2013 - 05:54 PM.

[Odanan]

Panther would be awful in this game, so please, no. If we are getting crappy slow light mechs, make it an Urbie.

[Phoenix Branson]

I'm loving my new D-DC for brawling. Here's my setup...

STD 300
DHS 14
2 x Ultra AC/5 (7 tons ammo)
3 x SRM6 w/ Artemis (3 tons ammo)
2 x ML
ECM
AMS (1 ton ammo)

The only drawback to this build is I need alot of UAC/5 ammo (I take away some armor from the legs to get extra tonnage). I'm pretty successful with this build and doing around 400-600 damage per match. Thoughts?

[John MatriX82]

Brawling with a 300 engine sucks, even more considering the ridicolous reach of the SRMs, you need more speed. But this ain't a thread where to talk about current mechs builds, we should talk about new or presumed incoming mechs and eventually speak about their builds

[Odanan]

Maverick01, on 17 August 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

I'm loving my new D-DC for brawling. Here's my setup...

STD 300
DHS 14
2 x Ultra AC/5 (7 tons ammo)
3 x SRM6 w/ Artemis (3 tons ammo)
2 x ML
ECM
AMS (1 ton ammo)

The only drawback to this build is I need alot of UAC/5 ammo (I take away some armor from the legs to get extra tonnage). I'm pretty successful with this build and doing around 400-600 damage per match. Thoughts?

My best brawler is an Atlas D-DC.

STD Engine 340
3x SRM6
1x AC/20
2x Medium Lasers
ECM

That's a monster that can give 1K damage, killing every mech in the way.

[New Day]

Grokmoo, on 27 June 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

We have now seen the Atlas, Catapult, Hunchbak, Jenner, Dragon, and Commando in action. So I guess the Centurion is probably in as well, but I don't think we've seen that one yet. Can't wait to see the Awesome.

I bet you're regretting that now.

Edited by NamesAreStupid, 18 August 2013 - 02:44 AM.

[Odanan]

NamesAreStupid, on 18 August 2013 - 02:44 AM, said:

I bet you're regretting that now.

Awesomes are a very good sight in the enemy team.

[Jack Gallows]

NamesAreStupid, on 18 August 2013 - 02:44 AM, said:

I bet you're regretting that now.

Given that balance changes and 'mechs get looked at and modified (hitboxes/etc) the Awesome can still become...awesome. They aren't right now, but it's not like everyone always loved Spiders before the more recent changes.

[Odanan]

Jack Gallows, on 18 August 2013 - 04:40 AM, said:

Given that balance changes and 'mechs get looked at and modified (hitboxes/etc) the Awesome can still become...awesome. They aren't right now, but it's not like everyone always loved Spiders before the more recent changes.

Hardpoint sizing would make them... Awesome.

(as suggested here)

(and yes, I'm shamelessly self-promoting again)

[New Day]

Jack Gallows, on 18 August 2013 - 04:40 AM, said:

Given that balance changes and 'mechs get looked at and modified (hitboxes/etc) the Awesome can still become...awesome. They aren't right now, but it's not like everyone always loved Spiders before the more recent changes.

I don't know. I read that statement but it's so convoluted that it could mean anything. It says specifically that size (for the Kintaro though) will remain the same, which is still a problem for a lot of medium/heavies.

[Odanan]

NamesAreStupid, on 18 August 2013 - 05:08 AM, said:

I don't know. I read that statement but it's so convoluted that it could mean anything. It says specifically that size (for the Kintaro though) will remain the same, which is still a problem for a lot of medium/heavies.

I doubt they will resize any mech... too much work.

[New Day]

Odanan, on 18 August 2013 - 05:39 AM, said:

I doubt they will resize any mech... too much work.

And we were supposed to be getting 2 mechs per month at this point. I'd rather they skip one or two mechs to bring the other mechs in line, but they won't do that.

[Butane9000]

NamesAreStupid, on 18 August 2013 - 02:44 AM, said:

I bet you're regretting that now.

Odanan, on 18 August 2013 - 04:11 AM, said:

Awesomes are a very good sight in the enemy team.

I tear up the battlefield in my Awesome. Now I won't say they don't need work because the obviously do. The mech can easily use some liposuction to make him less wide and a hit box revamp. But it's not a bad mech by any means. These are the builds I currently run or would use if I owned the variant.

AWS-8V
3x LL
1x ML
2x SRM4
1x SRM6
400 Rounds SRM Ammo
1x C.A.S.E.
STD 300 Engine
480/494 armor
Endo-Steel
17 DHS
59.5% Heat Efficiency

AWS-9M
3xLL
1xPPC/ERPPC
STD 300 Engine
18 DHS
494/494 Armor
64% Heat Efficiency

AWS-8T
4x ML
2x LRM15 + Artemis
1x TAG
1080 LRM Ammo
2x C.A.S.E.
STD 275 Engine
16 DHS
67.5% Heat Efficiency
B.A.P.

AWS-8Q (version 2)
3x LL
3x ML
1x MPL
STD 300 Engine
22 DHS
40% Heat Efficiency
480/494 Armor

AWS-8R
3x ML
2x SRM6
2x LRM10
3 Tons LRM Ammo
3 Tons SRM Ammo
2x C.A.S.E.
STD 300 Engine
16 DHS
39% Heat Efficiency
480/494 Armor

But I will admit. It's definitely got it's issues. But when you learn how to play them they're not bad at all. Especially now with the SRM buff they're alot more viable.

[New Day]

Butane9000, on 18 August 2013 - 07:02 AM, said:

I tear up the battlefield in my Awesome. Now I won't say they don't need work because the obviously do. The mech can easily use some liposuction to make him less wide and a hit box revamp. But it's not a bad mech by any means. These are the builds I currently run or would use if I owned the variant.

AWS-8V
3x LL
1x ML
2x SRM4
1x SRM6
400 Rounds SRM Ammo
1x C.A.S.E.
STD 300 Engine
480/494 armor
Endo-Steel
17 DHS
59.5% Heat Efficiency

AWS-9M
3xLL
1xPPC/ERPPC
STD 300 Engine
18 DHS
494/494 Armor
64% Heat Efficiency

AWS-8T
4x ML
2x LRM15 + Artemis
1x TAG
1080 LRM Ammo
2x C.A.S.E.
STD 275 Engine
16 DHS
67.5% Heat Efficiency
B.A.P.

AWS-8Q (version 2)
3x LL
3x ML
1x MPL
STD 300 Engine
22 DHS
40% Heat Efficiency
480/494 Armor

AWS-8R
3x ML
2x SRM6
2x LRM10
3 Tons LRM Ammo
3 Tons SRM Ammo
2x C.A.S.E.
STD 300 Engine
16 DHS
39% Heat Efficiency
480/494 Armor

But I will admit. It's definitely got it's issues. But when you learn how to play them they're not bad at all. Especially now with the SRM buff they're alot more viable.

Those builds are horrible and you didn't even list the one good exclusive Awesome build (8R LRM boat) . Also don't prove anything. The Awesome could have the best hardpoints ever, but it would still be the worst assault/heavy because of it's hitboxes (I have 3 FYI).

Edited by NamesAreStupid, 18 August 2013 - 07:33 AM.

[Odanan]

That's it: Banshee for next Assault, or my name is not Odanan!

[Butane9000]

So let's see

Lights (6)
Flea
Locust
Commando
Spider
Jenner
Raven

Mediums (8)
Cicada
Blackjack
Hunchback
Trebuchet
Centurion
Kintaro
Shadow Hawk
Wolverine

Heavies (7)
Dragon
Quickdraw
Catapult
Thunder Bolt
Jagermech
Cataphract
Orion

Assaults (6)
Awesome
Victor
Stalker
Battlemaster
Highlander
Atlas

So we all firmly believe the Banshees gonna make it. With the medium roster "filled out" at the moment the question really is, what will be the final Heavy, Assault (since we figure the Banshee will be one of the final 2) and 2 lights be?

Let us get back on topic! BEGIN!

[Phoenix Branson]

Butane9000, on 18 August 2013 - 08:29 AM, said:

So let's see

Lights (6)
Flea
Locust
Commando
Spider
Jenner
Raven

Mediums (8)
Cicada
Blackjack
Hunchback
Trebuchet
Centurion
Kintaro
Shadow Hawk
Wolverine

Heavies (7)
Dragon
Quickdraw
Catapult
Thunder Bolt
Jagermech
Cataphract
Orion

Assaults (6)
Awesome
Victor
Stalker
Battlemaster
Highlander
Atlas

So we all firmly believe the Banshees gonna make it. With the medium roster "filled out" at the moment the question really is, what will be the final Heavy, Assault (since we figure the Banshee will be one of the final 2) and 2 lights be?

Let us get back on topic! BEGIN!

Looking at TRO 3039, I believe PGI will add the following:

Lights
Firestarter
Javelin

Heavies
Lancelot

Assaults
Banshee
Cyclops

Unfortunately, the UrbanMech will not make it.

[Bishop Steiner]

Maverick01, on 18 August 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

Looking at TRO 3039, I believe PGI will add the following:

Lights
Firestarter
Javelin

Heavies
Lancelot

Assaults
KING CRAB
ZEUS

and a mere URBANMECH will lead them all.

FTFY.

Also what is this talk of FINAL? Did I miss an announcement somewhere that no further IS mechs are being added? Seems silly and shortsighted. One reason for the 2 a month will be because they need to release one CLAN and one INNER SPHERE design to keep people interested, as many of us have ZERO interest in Clan garbage.

And there are PLENTY of designs still to choose from. So I don't agree with the "final" we have to have 8 of each stuff. There should be more Mediums than other classes. Mediums are the most common Mech in Battletech/Mechwarrior. And we have some GREAT chassis to choose from, with with ways to fill in missing variants, if they so choose. Vulcan, Assassin, Vindicator, Enforcer, Dervish. Crab. Heck if they get creative we could still see the Griffin and most importantly, the best medium of all, the Phoenix Hawk.

[Odanan]

Bishop Steiner, on 18 August 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

FTFY.

Also what is this talk of FINAL? Did I miss an announcement somewhere that no further IS mechs are being added? Seems silly and shortsighted. One reason for the 2 a month will be because they need to release one CLAN and one INNER SPHERE design to keep people interested, as many of us have ZERO interest in Clan garbage.

Agreed.

Bishop Steiner, on 18 August 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

And there are PLENTY of designs still to choose from. So I don't agree with the "final" we have to have 8 of each stuff.

But there aren't that many good designs left (with 3 variants).

Bishop Steiner, on 18 August 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

There should be more Mediums than other classes.

You lost me here. I like the same number for all weight classes.

Bishop Steiner, on 18 August 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

Mediums are the most common Mech in Battletech/Mechwarrior. And we have some GREAT chassis to choose from, with with ways to fill in missing variants, if they so choose. Vulcan, Assassin, Vindicator, Enforcer, Dervish. Crab. Heck if they get creative we could still see the Griffin and most importantly, the best medium of all, the Phoenix Hawk.

Phoenix Hawk is Macross...

Maverick01, on 18 August 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

Unfortunately, the UrbanMech will not make it.

Make the Urbie happen!
PGI will get a rain of money with the Urbie hero!

[Bishop Steiner]

Odanan, on 18 August 2013 - 10:06 AM, said:

Agreed.

Darn skippy you agree.

But there aren't that many good designs left (with 3 variants).

In your opinion. They don't have to be "good" to you. They simply have to appeal to others. Also, "good" is much more than just tonnage and hardpoints and speed. Good can be determined by the quirks given, which they have indicated a desire to expand upon. As for 3 variants, at some point there will have to modify that. OR they limit their potential. Whether that will be a revamp of the pilot efficiencies in UI 2.0 (one can hope) or by adding PGI/ MWO player designed variants.

You see no use for the Crab. Or the BlackKnight. Others really don't care and want those chassis., whether they bring something "new" or not. Have never really seen PGI espouse that argument, so I don't see how it can be a considering factor.
Fact is there are many many people who want Urbanmechs, Vindicators, Crabs, Zeus, Cyclops, Flashman, Black Knights and such, whether you think they are good, or even if they actually would be good. It's called variety. We like it.

You lost me here. I like the same number for all weight classes.

That's sweet and all, but has exactly what to do with what? So because we like symmetry, should there also be the same number of missile launchers as ballistics, and ditto with energy weapons? Does call of Duty make sure there are the same number of knives, handguns and smgs as there are of assault and sniper rifles and missile launchers?

Medium Mechs make up 40% of ALL Mechs used in the Inner Sphere. Due to cost and diversity, it goes to reason that not only would there be more total numbers, but more varieties of them.

Phoenix Hawk is Macross...

AND? The name is not. Just the original art. Art can change. Macross/Studio Nue/Harmony Gold can only sue over images that infringe on that original image. And Harmony Gold is Quite likely about to get ripped a financial new one by Hasbro anyhow. People once said NO Unseen would make it. We have seen that change already. Also, as I said, with any luck.....

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 18 August 2013 - 10:19 AM.