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#6701 Odanan

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 11:55 AM

Done and done.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 03:26 PM

Great playing with you the other day Bishop. I finally dumped the GR :) seeing that it was just too slow DPS wise and while I was getting kills, they were mostly softened up before I got to them. So I went your route with AC5s on that and I can brawl now. Was wondering since I have been wanting to try the Jagermech out but just could not find what I liked until someone gave me an idea with the DD what you think of this build. http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0de1babdde5a808 They used twin GRs and 2 SLs with 60 rounds but so I tweaked it to be like my Ilya.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 03:48 PM

View PostFireSlade, on 11 January 2014 - 03:26 PM, said:

Great playing with you the other day Bishop. I finally dumped the GR :) seeing that it was just too slow DPS wise and while I was getting kills, they were mostly softened up before I got to them. So I went your route with AC5s on that and I can brawl now. Was wondering since I have been wanting to try the Jagermech out but just could not find what I liked until someone gave me an idea with the DD what you think of this build. http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0de1babdde5a808 They used twin GRs and 2 SLs with 60 rounds but so I tweaked it to be like my Ilya.

well, this is one of the 2 ways my DD runs
JM6-DD
this is the other.
JM6-DD

I run the dual ac10 build on my ilya (2 ac10, 2 medium laser, 105 rounds of ammo and a 340XL), have since the Ilya came out, so I tend to run the UACs on my JM6 more, as I tend to dislike repeating roles and builds. But either have been wreckign balls for me.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 04:50 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 11 January 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

well, this is one of the 2 ways my DD runs
JM6-DD
this is the other.
JM6-DD

I run the dual ac10 build on my ilya (2 ac10, 2 medium laser, 105 rounds of ammo and a 340XL), have since the Ilya came out, so I tend to run the UACs on my JM6 more, as I tend to dislike repeating roles and builds. But either have been wreckign balls for me.


Thanks I might do something similar since I feel the same way unless it can offer me enough of a difference. Plus AC5s snipe better than AC10s. I am going to have to figure out what I want from the last two chassis and if I want to run the Firebrand with its mix of energy and ballistics in the arms.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 09:43 PM

View PostFireSlade, on 11 January 2014 - 04:50 PM, said:


Thanks I might do something similar since I feel the same way unless it can offer me enough of a difference. Plus AC5s snipe better than AC10s. I am going to have to figure out what I want from the last two chassis and if I want to run the Firebrand with its mix of energy and ballistics in the arms.

I like the rifleman build on the Firebrand.
FIREBRAND

and run a fun build on my jm6a
JM6-A
its my command mech from Mechwarrior tactics, basically.

and a couple variants
JM6-A
JM6-A

IDK, like 2000 drops in the Jager, so I guess I like em ok.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 10:41 PM

Thanks, love the AC5 JM6-As could never figure out what I wanted and the Rifleman Firebrand was a good idea would have used it as a PPC sniper.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 02:17 AM

View PostButane9000, on 10 January 2014 - 07:11 AM, said:

Quickdraw - None (I don't believe this has unique geometry for its weapons. Correct me if I am wrong).


It doesn't yet have an hero, but the chassis has geometry for the weapons already, for missiles, ppcs, lasers so I think it won't have any geometry pass.

#6708 Odanan

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 03:39 AM

So, next hero will be the Quickdraw, Thebuchet, Blackjack, Raven, or Spider?
(hoping for a good hero Raven)

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 04:36 AM

RAVEN HERO!

Flamers in the arms (hotwings!) and MG's in the CT (dat beak!) ^_^

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 06:17 AM

Probably the Quickdraw, because we had a light and medium already.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 08:48 AM

View PostScrawny Cowboy, on 12 January 2014 - 04:36 AM, said:

RAVEN HERO!

Flamers in the arms (hotwings!) and MG's in the CT (dat beak!) :P

Hot Wings! I would buy it in an instant! Cover myself in Frank's Red Hot Wing sauce and head out into the field of battle!

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 11:25 AM

I think that it will be a Raven next, though I am not sure how they will do the hard points. Would be nice if they did a Edgar Allen Poe them to it like naming it "Nevermore" or something along those lines. The Raven has been around the longest and still does not have a Hero mech. Besides there are 2 heroes for lights, 3 for mediums, 6 for heavies, and 5 for assaults; leaving lights and mediums light on the heroes.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 12:06 PM

View PostFireSlade, on 07 January 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

I still have not tried it been chicken to run with a 200XL 64kph and a GR so I am saving for a bigger engine but the way the Hunchback hit boxes work I may just do the 4G version. Had a Spider with take out my rear CT (killed me) with 1 shot when I run 58/6 on my 4P yesterday. The kill screen showed ERLL was the last thing to hit me and the Spider was the only enemy around. Maybe it is just me but the Hunchback is really squishy and I seem to do really poorly with it. Sucks but oh well I am sentimental for classic designs.


can't say for sure it was me, but i did one shot a hunchie in the back at the start of a match the other day with my spider. I was so surprised by it that I was already in the process of running away in a zig zag expecting retaliation. here is my build - http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d764048c63affab - I generally scout way ahead and call out the location of the main force until i can get close enough behind them to lock on one for LRM's - if we have a couple dedicated missile boats I'll run through their ranks and pop a UAV - which I think was what I was doing in that match.

and since this a general build discussion thread, I'll post my phract build as well in case it can draw any insightful criticism... http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5d727b7d57d8320

both builds are doing very well for me- the CTF-4x nets 2-5 kills and 3-7 assists on average, while the spider can usually get 1-2k, and 7-10 assists (plus base/resource point caps / fakes, and causing general mayhem and confusion inside enemy lines.)

Edited by WildmouseX, 12 January 2014 - 12:08 PM.


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 12:48 PM

View PostWildmouseX, on 12 January 2014 - 12:06 PM, said:

can't say for sure it was me, but i did one shot a hunchie in the back at the start of a match the other day with my spider. I was so surprised by it that I was already in the process of running away in a zig zag expecting retaliation. here is my build - http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d764048c63affab - I generally scout way ahead and call out the location of the main force until i can get close enough behind them to lock on one for LRM's - if we have a couple dedicated missile boats I'll run through their ranks and pop a UAV - which I think was what I was doing in that match.
and since this a general build discussion thread, I'll post my phract build as well in case it can draw any insightful criticism... http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5d727b7d57d8320
both builds are doing very well for me- the CTF-4x nets 2-5 kills and 3-7 assists on average, while the spider can usually get 1-2k, and 7-10 assists (plus base/resource point caps / fakes, and causing general mayhem and confusion inside enemy lines.)

Nope was not you. The Spider was 5K© which is why it surprised me so much since they cannot do the 38 damage needed to core my Hunchback from behind. The only thing that I can think of is that I took some friendly fire from someone trying to kill the Spider at the same time that the Spider shot me.

This is not a general build topic but more of a Battletech nerdom talking and debating topic. So no worries about posting here since it is still on topic. Your build is fine if not a bit boring (the 4X is just too easy for me) and I run something very similar. Since the MLs are more of a backup weapon and 2 can cause the mech to run somewhat hot I stuck with having 1ML. Where mine gets interesting is I managed to fit 2AC5s and 2UAC5s along with 7 tons of ammo. http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5e8adb4792bb4d1 This thing will rip apart any Atlas and Stalker, even had a few turn around and run from me, and partly why I find it so boring. Feel free to stick around and see what is going on. I have learned a lot from both Bishop and Odanan among others about Battletech.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 03:41 PM

ahh thanks for clearing that up, I'm no stranger to battletech and mechwarrior, We played the PnP way back in highschool (still have the FASA box and books from then)..... we even had a battletech simulator over at the north pier mall that we use to go to http://www.youtube.c...?v=jdJA5C_Po4U. - kinda wish this game would have been more mechwarrior then battletech, but whacha gunna do?

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 04:03 PM

View Postcdlord, on 12 January 2014 - 08:48 AM, said:

Hot Wings! I would buy it in an instant! Cover myself in Frank's Red Hot Wing sauce and head out into the field of battle!

"Hot Wings" would be nice, specially with a Flamer buff.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 04:07 PM

View PostOdanan, on 12 January 2014 - 04:03 PM, said:

"Hot Wings" would be nice, specially with a Flamer buff.


I would kill for if flamers did little to no damage (possibly just internal) but actually increased heat 5+ every second then they would be murder to anyone that runs hot.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 08:01 PM

Here would be my Raven hero.

Except put the missile hard point in the CT, 1 energy in each side torso and then 1 ballistic in either arm but just 1 ballistic and capable of 3 JJ's.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 08:03 PM

View PostButane9000, on 12 January 2014 - 08:01 PM, said:

Here would be my Raven hero.

Except put the missile hard point in the CT, 1 energy in each side torso and then 1 ballistic in either arm but just 1 ballistic and capable of 3 JJ's.

That would be a straight downgrade from the existing 4X variant, though.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 08:05 PM

View PostFupDup, on 12 January 2014 - 08:03 PM, said:

That would be a straight downgrade from the existing 4X variant, though.


True, but it's supposed to be different and not better. What would be yours?





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