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#7441 Odanan

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:26 AM

Thanks PGI!! :~)

#7442 Ens

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:30 AM

bah...

#7443 JudgeDeathCZ

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:31 AM

Oh yeah banshee incomming!
This one with 4 balistic slots mmmm...

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:35 AM

View PostEns, on 03 March 2014 - 10:30 AM, said:

bah...

Hey, it's the second most common assault mech in Lyran service (after the Zeus) and the second most common in IS (after the Stalker).

4 ballistics in one torso and 3 to 4 energy in the other... oh, I'm already in love.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:35 AM

Well, if you can trust that leaked image then the hardpoint inflation sure made the lackluster BNC-3E a lot more competitive. Lots of ballistic goodness can be done with 4 hp. Which is just as well, cause one other variant we will likely see, the BNC-3S, will come with 8 energy hp. I'm kinda wondering what the third variant will be?

#7446 Odanan

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:41 AM

View PostAdrian Brandt, on 03 March 2014 - 10:35 AM, said:

Well, if you can trust that leaked image then the hardpoint inflation sure made the lackluster BNC-3E a lot more competitive. Lots of ballistic goodness can be done with 4 hp. Which is just as well, cause one other variant we will likely see, the BNC-3S, will come with 8 energy hp. I'm kinda wondering what the third variant will be?

It will probably be like this:
Posted Image

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:42 AM

View PostAdrian Brandt, on 03 March 2014 - 10:35 AM, said:

Well, if you can trust that leaked image then the hardpoint inflation sure made the lackluster BNC-3E a lot more competitive. Lots of ballistic goodness can be done with 4 hp. Which is just as well, cause one other variant we will likely see, the BNC-3S, will come with 8 energy hp. I'm kinda wondering what the third variant will be?


Could be the 3M, an all Energy variant. 2 PPCs & 2 MLs.

The 3S is going to be mean. 8 energy hard points (2 PPCs, 4 MLs & 2 SLs), but also an AC/10 (1 or 2 ballistic points there) and 2 SLs. This is going to have a much smaller engine than the 3E though.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:42 AM

Actually, it looks like the Banshee will be even better than predicted.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:51 AM

View PostAdrian Brandt, on 03 March 2014 - 10:35 AM, said:

the BNC-3S, will come with 8 energy hp. I'm kinda wondering what the third variant will be how the hell I'm going to cool all those energy weapons?

FTFY :P

#7450 Ens

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:59 AM

View PostOdanan, on 03 March 2014 - 10:35 AM, said:

Hey, it's the second most common assault mech in Lyran service (after the Zeus) and the second most common in IS (after the Stalker).

4 ballistics in one torso and 3 to 4 energy in the other... oh, I'm already in love.



yeah, yeah i hear you..

the lyran in me is like YAAAAAAAAY
the Zeus-Addict that i am is like THIS

#7451 BlackWidow

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:09 AM

Does not appear to be photoshopped.

This is REAL folks.

Posted Image

View PostShadowbaneX, on 03 March 2014 - 10:42 AM, said:


Could be the 3M, an all Energy variant. 2 PPCs & 2 MLs.

The 3S is going to be mean. 8 energy hard points (2 PPCs, 4 MLs & 2 SLs), but also an AC/10 (1 or 2 ballistic points there) and 2 SLs. This is going to have a much smaller engine than the 3E though.


It shows you right in the config...it's got 3 BALLISTIC hardpoints in the left torso.

Unless I'm not understanding the conversation.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:11 AM

View PostRebas Kradd, on 03 March 2014 - 10:47 AM, said:



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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:23 AM

View PostBlackWidow, on 03 March 2014 - 11:09 AM, said:

Does not appear to be photoshopped.

This is REAL folks.

It shows you right in the config...it's got 3 BALLISTIC hardpoints in the left torso.

Unless I'm not understanding the conversation.


First, what did you do to the photo to get that effect? Inverting it and something else?

Second, you're not understanding. That's the Banshee-3E in the image. It normally just has an AC/5 but it's given 4 ballistic hard points. The 3S has an AC/10, so that's at least 1 ballistic, possibly 2 (or more).

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:27 AM

View PostShadowbaneX, on 03 March 2014 - 11:23 AM, said:


First, what did you do to the photo to get that effect? Inverting it and something else?

Second, you're not understanding. That's the Banshee-3E in the image. It normally just has an AC/5 but it's given 4 ballistic hard points. The 3S has an AC/10, so that's at least 1 ballistic, possibly 2 (or more).

They inflated the hardpoints, because the original 3E has only 3 weapons. 3S has already too many hardpoints for a ballistics inflation.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:33 AM

View PostBlackWidow, on 03 March 2014 - 11:09 AM, said:

Does not appear to be photoshopped.

This is REAL folks.

Posted Image



It shows you right in the config...it's got 3 BALLISTIC hardpoints in the left torso.

Unless I'm not understanding the conversation.
You're misreading the loadout - the pictured BNC-3E has a total of four ballistic hardpoints, of which only three are filled (with the AC/20 and the two AC/2s).

The lower number is the total number of hardpoints of that type in the location; the upper number is the number of that type of hardpoint currently occupied by weapons.

Edited by Strum Wealh, 03 March 2014 - 11:34 AM.


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:39 AM

View PostOdanan, on 03 March 2014 - 11:27 AM, said:

They inflated the hardpoints, because the original 3E has only 3 weapons. 3S has already too many hardpoints for a ballistics inflation.


Yeah, I could see that happening, but I could see a 2nd Ballistic point added for the AC/10. Having only one ballistic slot would differentiate it more from the 3E.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:56 AM

At least they did not use that ugly ass version from the Alpha cover. This I may consider getting but I would like PGI to either buff Energy weapons or nerf Ballistics now that they are catering to the Ballistic meta. There is something wrong when a PPC cannot keep up with an AC5 due to cycle and heat. Besides PGI was complaining that people were dying too quickly so slowing down Ballistic recycle times would fix that some. Besides being able to throw 140 damage down range in 10 seconds seems wrong.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 12:13 PM

So the Banshee is coming then.. I suppose the arms will be used as shields because no weapons are in there, right?

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 12:28 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 03 March 2014 - 10:19 AM, said:

well... cats out the bag now...... wonder who broke NDA? Or was it a dev post?


Well it looks to have been 'omegagun' on OutreachHPG, of course I have no idea if he'd signed a NDA or not. He could have accidentally been made privy to something he wasn't supposed to, it wouldn't be the first time...
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View PostJohn MatriX82, on 03 March 2014 - 12:13 PM, said:

So the Banshee is coming then.. I suppose the arms will be used as shields because no weapons are in there, right?


I'd say that depends on the variant you choose to pilot.

Edited by Monsoon, 03 March 2014 - 01:12 PM.


#7460 Ngamok

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 12:30 PM

View PostFupDup, on 03 March 2014 - 10:17 AM, said:

How subtle...

Also, a lot of it looks like borrowed Battlemaster parts.


Battlemaster and Victor had kids.





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