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#8421 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 12:40 PM

PGI likes setting patterns just to lull you into a false sense of security....

#8422 Cimarb

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 12:56 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 01 July 2014 - 12:39 PM, said:

Mine
Spoiler


Since IDK how to direct link to it like you does.

I'd buy that. I loved my Battlemasters, but the all-missiles or all-energy loadouts got boring after a couple months. I can't count the arm hardpoints, since they are on those useless gorilla-like knuckle-dragger arms...

#8423 SgtMagor

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 01:59 PM

I like some of the submissions for a hero Battlemaster , but I would like 1 AC in the torso, and an Ac in the Arm, with 2E, with at least 2 Missile anywhere on the mech.

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 10:50 AM

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Nico Ulrich@_Wieland_ 6m
@russ_bullock No Hero Mech. I guess that also means no new IS chassis this month. ETA on the next IS chassis?

Russ Bullock@russ_bullock 3m
@_Wieland_ Hoping to announce plans for that soon, but I can't just yet.

Edited by Wieland, 02 July 2014 - 10:51 AM.


#8425 C E Dwyer

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 11:31 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 01 July 2014 - 12:39 PM, said:

Mine
Spoiler


Since IDK how to direct link to it like you does.


I see nothing wrong with Pay Walls anymore, :( JJ's might actually give me a reason to buy this fugly mucker

Shouldn't this thread be sticky ?

#8426 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 11:36 AM

View PostCathy, on 02 July 2014 - 11:31 AM, said:


I see nothing wrong with Pay Walls anymore, :( JJ's might actually give me a reason to buy this fugly mucker

Shouldn't this thread be sticky ?

yeah it should be. I think Odanan got someone mad at him...... ;)

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:24 PM

View PostWieland, on 02 July 2014 - 10:50 AM, said:

[twitter stuff]

:(

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 06:37 AM

View PostOdanan, on 02 July 2014 - 12:24 PM, said:

;)

What i fear is
  • During the Clan releases we only get Heroes(Spider and the 6 Phoenix)
  • The next IS chassis will be released as Mech Pack first


#8429 Odanan

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 06:45 AM

View PostWieland, on 03 July 2014 - 06:37 AM, said:

What i fear is
  • During the Clan releases we only get Heroes(Spider and the 6 Phoenix)
  • The next IS chassis will be released as Mech Pack first

I fear that too...
I wouldn't mind much with that if they work hard to bring the 8 (maybe 12) remaining Clan omnimechs of the early invasion.

#8430 Cimarb

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 06:56 AM

View PostOdanan, on 03 July 2014 - 06:45 AM, said:

I fear that too...
I wouldn't mind much with that if they work hard to bring the 8 (maybe 12) remaining Clan omnimechs of the early invasion.

I'm hoping they actually finish up the IS mechs that still need it, such as the Awesome, by doing hitbox passes and dynamic weaponry, etc. Several old designs still need heroes too.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 06:31 AM

View PostWieland, on 03 July 2014 - 06:37 AM, said:

What i fear is
  • During the Clan releases we only get Heroes(Spider and the 6 Phoenix)
  • The next IS chassis will be released as Mech Pack first


Well, let´s just hope not :wacko:

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 06:46 AM

It would make sense for PGI to keep releasing packs especially with how much some people want the new mechs. They have made a fortune off the last few packs and they get $ for early access to mechs that normally would bring in little to no money. Most people are willing to wait the week or 2 when they do the MC early access and then the only time that they really get any funds in for a mech is for the hero design. So a smart business person would think that if they offered a pack then forced the players to wait a month or 2 for the c-bill variant, offered a 30%c-bill increase on the main variant, some mech bays, and all variants, that they would make more money than offering the mechs a couple weeks early for MC.

Edited by FireSlade, 04 July 2014 - 06:46 AM.


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Posted 04 July 2014 - 09:32 AM

View PostFireSlade, on 04 July 2014 - 06:46 AM, said:

It would make sense for PGI to keep releasing packs especially with how much some people want the new mechs. They have made a fortune off the last few packs and they get $ for early access to mechs that normally would bring in little to no money. Most people are willing to wait the week or 2 when they do the MC early access and then the only time that they really get any funds in for a mech is for the hero design. So a smart business person would think that if they offered a pack then forced the players to wait a month or 2 for the c-bill variant, offered a 30%c-bill increase on the main variant, some mech bays, and all variants, that they would make more money than offering the mechs a couple weeks early for MC.

Completely agree. I prefer the pack approach to individual releases.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 09:58 AM

What evidence do we have that packages are more profitable than single purchases? Has PGI come out and said something to that effect? I don't believe so.

There always needs to be new C-bill mechs in the pipeline or the server population will drop between releases. I vote against moving to quarterly or semi-annual mech releases.

Look at my forum signature, I am nearly out of chassis to master as it is, I am not waiting until 2015 for new IS mech. Knowing the devs that Kit Fox will drop late August, meaning weeks ands weeks of boredom.

If they make the Arrow 50% off, I might buy that. Nothing else.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 10:38 AM

View PostCimarb, on 04 July 2014 - 09:32 AM, said:

Completely agree. I prefer the pack approach to individual releases.

I like it for the 30% boost but over time it gets expensive.

View PostSpheroid, on 04 July 2014 - 09:58 AM, said:

What evidence do we have that packages are more profitable than single purchases? Has PGI come out and said something to that effect? I don't believe so.

There always needs to be new C-bill mechs in the pipeline or the server population will drop between releases. I vote against moving to quarterly or semi-annual mech releases.

Look at my forum signature, I am nearly out of chassis to master as it is, I am not waiting until 2015 for new IS mech. Knowing the devs that Kit Fox will drop late August, meaning weeks ands weeks of boredom.

If they make the Arrow 50% off, I might buy that. Nothing else.

The evidence that I have is more based on common sense and logical conclusion than anyone at PGI saying something. One question is "would you buy something that costs real money when you could make that same purchase in a week for in game money?" Most people with common sense would say no unless they had money laying around to burn or really had to have that mech. Now that same question but now you had to wait a few months and they make one of the 3+ mechs have a 30% c-bill boost and a lot more people will fork over a few bucks to get early access plus an edge. I know this because I ended up getting a'la carte Timber Wolf and of all the Clan mechs that I see in game. Then you figure out how many fewer people will pay real money for something that you can buy for free and you start to see their profits tapering off once the c-bill variants become available. So now the only noticeable income for that chasis would be the hero variant of that mech since you cannot get it any other way. All this tells me that it is more profitable to 'dangle a steak in front of a starving man when he knows that he is not going to eat for a week.' $55 dollars for 3 Timber Wolfs (possibly more if they do hero Clan mechs), yet if I had waited then PGI would only have made $7 dollars for 3 mech bays. Which option made them more money?

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 10:47 AM

They said they would release some new IS chassis along with the Clans. Let's hope they do. (there is no such thing as enough mechs)

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 11:00 AM

View PostOdanan, on 04 July 2014 - 10:47 AM, said:

They said they would release some new IS chassis along with the Clans. Let's hope they do. (there is no such thing as enough mechs)

Did they say IS chassis or IS mechs?

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 11:18 AM

besides the Clan Buster pack, are there any other groups of mechs that could become a mech pack or maybe be considered for one?




*Pin this Thread please!*

Edited by SgtMagor, 04 July 2014 - 11:19 AM.


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Posted 04 July 2014 - 11:34 AM

View PostWieland, on 04 July 2014 - 11:00 AM, said:

Did they say IS chassis or IS mechs?

Mechs, I guess... (check here)
So it will probably be only heroes for existing chassis. :wacko:

Spider should be the first, and them the Phoenix mechs.

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 11:44 AM

Of course, there is this:

View PostNikolai Lubkiewicz, on 16 May 2014 - 04:08 PM, said:

To those eager for more information about the Clan Mechs themselves: We hope to address more concerns like these in the coming weeks, along with presenting more screenshots and we even have a teaser in the works!






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