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#8761 Strum Wealh

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 03:07 PM

View PostOdanan, on 11 August 2014 - 09:53 AM, said:

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Strum? :wacko:

I have no inside info, and MonkeyDCecil already listed the available variants plus the 3L (which isn't supposed to be available until 3051, versus the game being (re)set to 3049).

So, my guess would be the VND-1R (the basic energy/missile variant), the VND-1X (the ballistic-equipped variant), the VND-1AA ("the fast one"), with the Hero 'Mech probably being either the St. Ives' Blues (piloted by Michael Jones, from TRO 3025 & TRO 3039) or Chuong Vong's modified "VND-1R (Vong)" (from TRO 3039).
The VND-1SIC could also be an available common variant, if the St. Ives' Blues isn't chosen as the Hero 'Mech.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 03:27 PM

Vong is the most minor of hardpoint changes though, unless it had some serious hardpoint inflation I'd doubt it'd be a hero.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 04:50 PM

View PostCycKath, on 11 August 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

Vong is the most minor of hardpoint changes though, unless it had some serious hardpoint inflation I'd doubt it'd be a hero.

Hero variants are much less about hardpoints, and much more about "cool". Many Hero variants are very similar in hardpoints to at least one standard variant.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 05:03 PM

View PostCycKath, on 11 August 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

Vong is the most minor of hardpoint changes though, unless it had some serious hardpoint inflation I'd doubt it'd be a hero.

Well, there is another option if PGI wants to retain some grounding in BT canon: make up a loadout for the unnamed, undetailed VND belonging to Chad Jackson, the third notable VND pilot (after Jones & Vong) listed in TRO 3039.

"Commander Chad Jackson: While a decent MechWarrior in House Imarra, Chad is most famous for posing for underwear advertisements. The warriors under his command grumbled that his looks have advanced him more than his leadership skills, his classic Chinese features being en vogue during Chancellor Romano's regime. While he tried to downplay this, it has been noted that the Chancellor had him over for 'private visits' more frequently than even Master Rush in the early '30s."

Just imagine all of the colorful double-entendre names that could be given to such a pilot's 'Mech... :wacko: :rolleyes: :wacko:

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 05:14 PM

View PostStrum Wealh, on 11 August 2014 - 05:03 PM, said:

Well, there is another option if PGI wants to retain some grounding in BT canon: make up a loadout for the unnamed, undetailed VND belonging to Chad Jackson, the third notable VND pilot (after Jones & Vong) listed in TRO 3039.


Totally forgot about the third option for Kali Liao's dad, having Romano's favour would definitely allow him to have a non-standard and LosTech using config.

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 04:43 AM

As much as I am a Davion and therefore NOT a Liao, the Hero Vindi should be Liao to the core. I'm not sure if Liao has a Hero variant yet anyways. The Vindi is a Liao mech through and through.

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 05:07 AM

View Postcdlord, on 12 August 2014 - 04:43 AM, said:

As much as I am a Davion and therefore NOT a Liao, the Hero Vindi should be Liao to the core. I'm not sure if Liao has a Hero variant yet anyways. The Vindi is a Liao mech through and through.

Technically, Grigori Kovalenko (the pilot of Ilya Muromets) is CapCon-aligned.
However, Kovalenko is not a canonical BT character.

Of the IS factions, the CapCon, DracCom, and FRR are without BT canon-based Hero 'Mechs.
Though, the CapCon has Grigori Kovalenko (Ilya Muromets), the DracCom has Donald & Martin Takeda (Fang and Flame), and the FRR has Odin Sigurd (Huginn) - all wholly-original creations of PGI - to represent them.

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 05:12 AM

If the Panther ever arrives I demand a Katana Kat hero mech! The personal mech of Minobu Tetsuhara, the protagonist of the Wolves on the Border novel and the man who founded and trained the Ryuken regiments of the Draconis Combine. Later used by Minobu's younger brother, Fuhito Tetsuhara.

Fun Fact considering the incoming Vindicator: Minobu Tetsuhara piloted a Vindicator after the Katana Kat (and a Dragon later still, up until his last battle). :huh:

Edited by Steinar Bergstol, 12 August 2014 - 05:19 AM.


#8769 Odanan

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 05:21 AM

View Postcdlord, on 12 August 2014 - 04:43 AM, said:

As much as I am a Davion and therefore NOT a Liao, the Hero Vindi should be Liao to the core. I'm not sure if Liao has a Hero variant yet anyways. The Vindi is a Liao mech through and through.

Candace Liao used to pilot a Vindicator...

Edited by Odanan, 12 August 2014 - 05:23 AM.


#8770 Odanan

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 11:14 AM

I'm afraid this Anansi Spider hero mech means the UrbanMech won't make it so soon to the game. (even with some points in Urbie's favor)

:P

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 04:23 AM

View PostSteinar Bergstol, on 12 August 2014 - 05:12 AM, said:

If the Panther ever arrives I demand a Katana Kat hero mech! The personal mech of Minobu Tetsuhara, the protagonist of the Wolves on the Border novel and the man who founded and trained the Ryuken regiments of the Draconis Combine. Later used by Minobu's younger brother, Fuhito Tetsuhara.

Fun Fact considering the incoming Vindicator: Minobu Tetsuhara piloted a Vindicator after the Katana Kat (and a Dragon later still, up until his last battle). :ph34r:

Minobu was called "Ironman". That's a good name for a hero Vindicator...

#8772 SgtMagor

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 08:05 AM

if their going to give us 40-45 ton mechs, I hope the next one is this!
http://th09.devianta...kej-d5oqvx2.jpgwhile your at it I'll take this too http://fc04.devianta...uns-d50x471.jpg

Edited by SgtMagor, 13 August 2014 - 08:08 AM.


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Posted 13 August 2014 - 11:51 AM

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 12:10 PM

View Postcdlord, on 13 August 2014 - 11:51 AM, said:

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Oh how i wish this game was better and they could do the unseen.

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 12:50 PM

View Postcdlord, on 13 August 2014 - 11:51 AM, said:

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Lovely

#8776 Steinar Bergstol

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 02:10 PM

That Vindicator looks pretty darn nice IMO. Close enough to the original to be recognizable as a Vindicator, but actually functional looking. Good job by Alex. You know, that right PPC arm is looking almost Warhammerish. Oh, if only PGI could go there without invoking the wrath of lawyers.

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 05:22 PM

View PostSteinar Bergstol, on 13 August 2014 - 02:10 PM, said:

That Vindicator looks pretty darn nice IMO. Close enough to the original to be recognizable as a Vindicator, but actually functional looking. Good job by Alex. You know, that right PPC arm is looking almost Warhammerish. Oh, if only PGI could go there without invoking the wrath of lawyers.

I am SOOOO glad Alex got rid of the pot-bellied look... that mech was so ugly...

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 05:52 PM

My God, this could be the finest mech art by Alex Iglesias.

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 06:55 PM

I will buy it...

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 07:03 PM

View PostWieland, on 13 August 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

Oh how i wish this game was better and they could do the unseen.


Agreed, hit after hit.





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