20517 replies to this topic

[MonkeyDCecil]

Odanan, on 03 October 2014 - 01:59 PM, said:

I believe melee will be added sometime next year. At least for melee weapons (not punches and kicks) - it wouldn't be too hard to implement.

So, mechs like the Hatchetman and Axman will be quite unique and will sell like crazy.

I believe you are drunk, good sire.

[Hoax415]

Eventually they would get around to melee if they have the talent to make it. A melee mech pack would sell itself. Its too much money to pass up.

[Ovion]

Odanan, on 03 October 2014 - 01:59 PM, said:

I believe melee will be added sometime next year. At least for melee weapons (not punches and kicks) - it wouldn't be too hard to implement.

So, mechs like the Hatchetman and Axman will be quite unique and will sell like crazy.

Melee would be easy to implement as punch / kick.

It's a weapon, which can be grouped.
Up the weapon limit from 16 to 20, add in Left Fist, Right Fist, Left Foot, Right Foot weapons.
Any mech with a Hand Actuactor automatically gets a 'Punch' and any mech with a Foot Actuator automatically gets a 'kick'.
Range is low, etc. Damage figured out as per tabletop (Weight / 10 wasn't it?)
Group at will as standard.

[Tkhaw]

Never liked melee but as long as it would involve this mech...

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Berserker

I am all game for it

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Odanan, on 03 October 2014 - 01:59 PM, said:

I believe melee will be added sometime next year.

Where does that believe come from?

[Argent Usher]

Comstar Mech pack "Battle of Tukayyid":

Light: Firefly
Medium: Grim Reaper
Heavy: Lancelot or Flashman (or the already announced Black Knight)
Assault: Thug or Spartan (or the already announced King Crab)

Bonus: Spector and/or Exterminator with a full working Chameleon Light Polarization Shield

[HlynkaCG]

Argent Usher, on 04 October 2014 - 03:45 AM, said:

Comstar Mech pack "Battle of Tukayyid":
...

The Grim Reaper isn't in time-line (first introduced in 3052) and has only one variant pre-Dark Age. Likewise where are you getting "already announced" for the Black Night?

Edited by HlynkaCG, 04 October 2014 - 04:15 AM.

[Odanan]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 04 October 2014 - 02:17 AM, said:

Where does that believe come from?

Maybe not 2015, but probably up to 2016. Now they got rid of the IGP's clutches, they are innovating more, taking more risks and pleasing the community. And with the Clans burnt, they need some big announcement in the future.

Adding melee for punches and kicks would require they to redo the animations of all current mechs - which is a colossal endeavor; but adding melee attacks for only mechs equipped with hatchet won't be hard (heck, even I would be able to implement this). I believe they will eventually get into it.

The only thing that will hold melee at bay is the lack of variants in the current timeline for hatchet equipped mechs. Hatchetman, Axman and Berserker don't have yet 3 variants each. As soon as they push the timeline forward, I foresee a "Melee Pack" of mechs.

The necessity of pushing forward the timeline is because there won't be mechs enough to be released in 2015 and 2016 (IS and Clan). And they need to sell mechs to keep the game running.

Edited by Odanan, 04 October 2014 - 04:59 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Argent Usher, on 04 October 2014 - 03:45 AM, said:

Comstar Mech pack "Battle of Tukayyid":

Light: Firefly
Medium: Grim Reaper
Heavy: Lancelot or Flashman (or the already announced Black Knight)
Assault: Thug or Spartan (or the already announced King Crab)

Bonus: Spector and/or Exterminator with a full working Chameleon Light Polarization Shield

Comstar is not really a major Firefly user (Though outside the Dragoons they were the only user still extant). Grimm Reaper doesn't exist yet. Spartan is all but extinct. Less than 24 in the entire inner sphere before the Jihad. Thug i slacking available variants due to one be a "Royals" exclusive. Flashman doesn't get a 3rd variant until 3068. Spectors and Exterminators just ain't happening anytime soon.

Most likely for a Comstar pack would be:

Mongoose or Hermes (I would prefer the Hussar, but figure it's a long shot)
Crab or Sentinel
Lancelot or Champion (Black Knight appears to be the forerunner for the IS pack)
Crockett/Katana

would be the most likely, IMO.

The Lancelot, btw, not only would have the fun of giving us a super fast heavy, but has a JJ variant (01x), and one with ballistics (03 and 05 models), so it has good chassis diversity, even if it will also have most of the weaknesses of the 60 ton class.

Odanan, on 04 October 2014 - 04:56 AM, said:

Maybe not 2015, but probably up to 2016. Now they got rid of the IGP's clutches, they are innovating more, taking more risks and pleasing the community. And with the Clans burnt, they need some big announcement in the future.

Adding melee for punches and kicks would require they to redo the animations of all current mechs - which is a colossal endeavor; but adding melee attacks for only mechs equipped with hatchet won't be hard (heck, even I would be able to implement this). I believe they will eventually get into it.

The only thing that will hold melee at bay is the lack of variants in the current timeline for hatchet equipped mechs. Hatchetman, Axman and Berserker don't have yet 3 variants each. As soon as they push the timeline forward, I foresee a "Melee Pack" of mechs.

The necessity of pushing forward the timeline is because there won't be mechs enough to be released in 2015 and 2016 (IS and Clan). And they need to sell mechs to keep the game running.

plenty of mechs to tide over a year or two. Not, mind you if one wishes them to have the "perfectly equal" numbers in each class that some people seem to favor, but they are there, with the remaining 2750/3025/3039/3050 TRO mechs and Dragoon Mechs, and such. PLus there are some 3055/3058 designs and other outliers one could squeeze in, technically.

[SgtMagor]

melee for sure, Atlas don't need a weapon, just pick up any destroyed mech on the field and use it like a baseball bat heh!

[Ovion]

All Champions now have a 30% XP bonus instead of 10.
Curious to say the least, with no announcement apart from a splash page in the websites scrolling banner.

[MonkeyDCecil]

I would love to see melee myself. And if the community pushes it, it may be possible. But what I really want is a time jump to the Fedcom Civil War ear. But Only after two or three seasons of CW. Depending on how long a season is.

Edited by MonkeyDCecil, 04 October 2014 - 06:43 AM.

[Steinar Bergstol]

MonkeyDCecil, on 04 October 2014 - 06:43 AM, said:

I would love to see melee myself. And if the community pushes it, it may be possible. But what I really want is a time jump to the Fedcom Civil War ear. But Only after two or three seasons of CW. Depending on how long a season is.

I think it'll probably be longer than that until you get your civil war. They have plenty of mechs to release from the 3055 TRO, and I can't imagine they'd want to miss that opportunity by skipping past that phase of the Clan invasion.

Besides, I want a Daikyu.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Odanan, on 04 October 2014 - 04:56 AM, said:

Maybe not 2015, but probably up to 2016. Now they got rid of the IGP's clutches, they are innovating more, taking more risks and pleasing the community. And with the Clans burnt, they need some big announcement in the future.

Adding melee for punches and kicks would require they to redo the animations of all current mechs - which is a colossal endeavor; but adding melee attacks for only mechs equipped with hatchet won't be hard (heck, even I would be able to implement this). I believe they will eventually get into it.

The only thing that will hold melee at bay is the lack of variants in the current timeline for hatchet equipped mechs. Hatchetman, Axman and Berserker don't have yet 3 variants each. As soon as they push the timeline forward, I foresee a "Melee Pack" of mechs.

The necessity of pushing forward the timeline is because there won't be mechs enough to be released in 2015 and 2016 (IS and Clan). And they need to sell mechs to keep the game running.

I was hoping theyd said something

And I thought they threw out the timeline a long time ago

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 04 October 2014 - 09:23 PM.

[Odanan]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 04 October 2014 - 09:22 PM, said:

I was hoping theyd said something

And I thought they threw out the timeline a long time ago

I think they released some 3050''s variants already (we are in 3049), but the timeline is still rigid.

[Bishop Steiner]

MonkeyDCecil, on 04 October 2014 - 06:43 AM, said:

I would love to see melee myself. And if the community pushes it, it may be possible. But what I really want is a time jump to the Fedcom Civil War ear. But Only after two or three seasons of CW. Depending on how long a season is.

That would be a very short sighted move by PGI.

After Operation Revival ends on Tukayyid in May 3052, there are several notable to momentous events:
-3055: Assassination of Melissa Steiner and the Red Corsair Event
-3056: 4th Skye Guards attempt to foment revolt in Isle of Skye/Second Skye Rebellion
-3057: Marik/Liao attack the FedCom in Operation Guerrero, Clan Wolf and Jade Falcon engage in Refusal War, FedCom Split and Chaos March formed.
-3058: Jade Falcons invade Coventry, Victor Steiner Davion leads multi-national task force to remove them. Word of Blake conquers Terra.
-3059: Operations Bird Dog, Bulldog and Serpent are launched, beginning the Twilight of the Clans.
-3060: Smoke Jaguars annihilated, Great Refusal fought on Strana Mechty
-3062: FedCom Civil War begins, Draconis March invades the Draconis Combine.

So a HUGE amount of CW related events, and defining history would be skipped, and just as importantly:
-TRO 3055
-TRO 3058
-TRO 3060

accelerating the timeline to the FedCom CivWar, would severely limit their time and ability to maximize introducing and releasing the designs from these TROs, which would be bad marketing. And the attendant fervor of the slow reveal of things like the Clans ATM launchers, MRMS, Inner Sphere er and LB-x and ultra weapons, Light Gauss, etc.

And greatly reduce time to make needed balance adjustments to minimize power creep in the interim.

[CDLord HHGD]

A ComStar mech pack HAS to have the Crab in the Medium slot. In honor of Judith from the book Exodus Road.

[Bishop Steiner]

cdlord, on 05 October 2014 - 06:47 AM, said:

A ComStar mech pack HAS to have the Crab in the Medium slot. In honor of Judith from the book Exodus Road.

Meh book was Meh though.

[CDLord HHGD]

Bishop Steiner, on 05 October 2014 - 07:11 AM, said:

Meh book was Meh though.

It was sort of meh, but it kicked off a great series so gotta give it that.

[Tkhaw]

I would put in mechs from

TRO 2750
TRO 3025
TRO 3039

First

before considering a time jump...

I know it will be a while but hey, every mech needs its moment to shine