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[Deathlike]

LordKnightFandragon, on 03 January 2015 - 12:18 PM, said:

Ok good lol...but for some odd reason, I had a wierd feeling that might have been SUmmoner concept art somehow, done by PGI......good to know its not...

Are you sure? We still have them VCRs.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Deathlike, on 03 January 2015 - 01:47 PM, said:

Are you sure? We still have them VCRs.

We have VCRs, Centurion arms that look very generic and bad. We have Warhawk's packing stubbies instead of big long barrels. Awesomes with big ol' nipples, unless that didnt become a thing, Cattys with VCRs, and do the Mad Dog's extra missile pods extend down the side of the nose like ive seen in some pics?

PGI was trying to go for dynamic? weapon appearance, with the gun changing based on what your packing, but they have kinda made most of it look kinda bad.

For all the mechs, the only lasers that should be stubbies are the Smalls and maybe the Mediums, but the Larges should be..well...large....

Almost liked it better where the model of the mech doesnt change based on guns and instead just magically fires 60 missiles out of a 10 tube missile rack. Where a Small laser uses the same massive tube as a PPC and then on some mechs you can fire 4 lasers out of that one tube. WHat happened to the Centurion? KInda yikes. The VCR on the Catty, yikes....the stubbies on the Warhawk? Just ugh....

Edited by LordKnightFandragon, 03 January 2015 - 03:12 PM.

[Deathlike]

I've mastered the Summoner-Prime, but the other two variants are behind still past basics (one with Speed Tweak), so I should be able to give a review soon.

The bad news: There is actually a lot of negative things I'll have to say, and suggestions for buffs. It's not going to be pretty though (the list is pretty freaking large).

[Golden Vulf]

Summoner, my dear friend, you need a right torso energy hard point on any existing omnipod or on a new one, just one single one. Prime left torso needs a 2nd missile hard point like the Hellbringer B's right torso. And 3.5 tons of extra space from endo steel. Current quirks are fine if we just get those!

Bam, no longer trash tier under hard-pointed mech. Has the same hard points as the Thunderbolt jump version 9SE.

The worst hard points of any clan Heavy, hard points as bad as a Dragon, but doesn't get endo steel and has hard locked jump jets.

Edited by Golden Vulf, 04 January 2015 - 07:35 AM.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Golden Vulf, on 04 January 2015 - 07:23 AM, said:

Summoner, my dear friend, you need a right torso energy hard point on any existing omnipod or on a new one, just one single one. Prime left torso needs a 2nd missile hard point like the Hellbringer B's right torso. And 3.5 tons of extra space from endo steel. Current quirks are fine if we just get those!

Bam, no longer trash tier under hard-pointed mech. Has the same hard points as the Thunderbolt jump version 9SE.

The worst hard points of any clan Heavy, hard points as bad as a Dragon, but doesn't get endo steel and has hard locked jump jets.

Summoner has quite a few hardpoints, it has no tonnage to mount any weapons.

[Kuritaclan]

LordKnightFandragon, on 04 January 2015 - 07:47 AM, said:

Summoner has quite a few hardpoints, it has no tonnage to mount any weapons.

But,... but XL Engine you know. Maybee a bit to heavy. Yeah i can feel it what is given by the engine regarding tonnage is eaten by jumpjets.

[Xythius]

LordKnightFandragon, on 04 January 2015 - 07:47 AM, said:

Summoner has quite a few hardpoints, it has no tonnage to mount any weapons.

I do not know if I would consider that wholly accurate. It is one of the few omni-mechs that actually has weapon hardpoints in all the pods, but at most, 2 each. And very limited. If you want energy, it goes in the arms. Ballistics? Torsi and arms - but one each. However, your second point is where I totally agree. You don't have the tonnage to make anything more than one or two seperate weapons totally effective. The -only- thing you can effectively boat is missiles.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Kuritaclan, on 04 January 2015 - 07:52 AM, said:

But,... but XL Engine you know. Maybee a bit to heavy. Yeah i can feel it what is given by the engine regarding tonnage is eaten by jumpjets.

Yeah, in every MW game ever, I remove all JJ to make room for weapons and armor. I find JJ mostly a pointless tool to have on mechs. They usually dont jump high or far enough to really make them much more then a cool feature to ensure your legs get shot off. Plus, they weigh a ton, and I like to pack AC10s, LL, PPCs and GRs....

[Lily from animove]

hybrid black, on 21 December 2014 - 09:43 AM, said:

1 er PPC 1 gauss =1000 + damage matches with 3-4 kills in the hands of a good player

and yet the TBR can do this and be a lot better, just because one can be good in a mech with a specific loadout does not eman the mehc is good, bad mechs with good pilots have good results, but they atill stay bad mechs.

[Deathlike]

I'm going to get this posted within 2 hours... hopefully...

[Wintersdark]

Deathlike, on 04 January 2015 - 02:30 PM, said:

I'm going to get this posted within 2 hours... hopefully...

2 hours is up. Hurry your **** up, some of us are looking forward to the read

[Deathlike]

Wintersdark, on 04 January 2015 - 04:49 PM, said:

2 hours is up. Hurry your **** up, some of us are looking forward to the read

I apologize... I was watching the Lions @ Cowboys game.

[SgtMagor]

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Edited by SgtMagor, 04 January 2015 - 05:32 PM.

[Deathlike]

SgtMagor, on 04 January 2015 - 05:30 PM, said:

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If it makes you feel better, I don't root for either team...

I have no idea what you were going to say...

[Illya Ghost Bear]

I love my Summoner.

But it's really a mediocre mech. It's not worth a dang in CW, but I make it work in Public Matches. Takes 3x the work to get a good match as a TW, though.

Endo would be lovely.

(Any idea who this is?)

Edited by Illya Arkhipova, 04 January 2015 - 10:58 PM.

[Metus regem]

Illya Arkhipova, on 04 January 2015 - 10:58 PM, said:

I love my Summoner.

But it's really a mediocre mech. It's not worth a dang in CW, but I make it work in Public Matches. Takes 3x the work to get a good match as a TW, though.

Endo would be lovely.

(Any idea who this is?)

I know, only since I have dropped with you several times...

[Illya Ghost Bear]

Metus regem, on 04 January 2015 - 11:13 PM, said:

I know, only since I have dropped with you several times...

cheater.

[Metus regem]

Illya Arkhipova, on 04 January 2015 - 11:49 PM, said:

cheater.

I prefer to be thought of as doing my home work, or having a good intelligence network....

[Xythius]

Illya Arkhipova, on 04 January 2015 - 10:58 PM, said:

I love my Summoner.

But it's really a mediocre mech. It's not worth a dang in CW, but I make it work in Public Matches. Takes 3x the work to get a good match as a TW, though.

Endo would be lovely.

(Any idea who this is?)

I have a pretty good idea. The spy has revealed himself...

[kapusta11]

Just get rid of this "locked equipment" garbage, there will always be mechs with oversized engines, worthless ferro and not much more desired endo, mechs shouldn't suck just because of that. Then throw some gauss rifles in there and "summon" butthurt.