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[Bishop Steiner]

Anakha, on 24 February 2015 - 11:29 AM, said:

Quirks next month it looks like but I don't think that is going to fix the fixed JJ issue or the lack of endo steel compared to the holy trinity mechs. Hopefully they will address this soon.

Annoys me, though because unless it gets doubled ammo quirks, or something, it's signature builds will stay near useless.

C'mon Russ, gimme so Endo, bro!

[Golden Vulf]

Bishop Steiner, on 24 February 2015 - 07:36 PM, said:

Annoys me, though because unless it gets doubled ammo quirks, or something, it's signature builds will stay near useless.

C'mon Russ, gimme so Endo, bro!

He was tweeting about not being able to buff clan mechs until IS got a higher drop deck cap in CW. And the buff he had in mind was decreasing the time between bullets firing in Clan auto cannons.

How the fuqk is buffing clan autocannons going to make clans better in CW? What mech has the free tonnage to bring Autocannons with enough ammo to last through CW?

The next mech I buy is going to be the Kodiak. Not buying a single one before that is in the game.

Edited by Golden Vulf, 25 February 2015 - 01:31 AM.

[Nightshade24]

Golden Vulf, on 25 February 2015 - 01:30 AM, said:

He was tweeting about not being able to buff clan mechs until IS got a higher drop deck cap in CW. And the buff he had in mind was decreasing the time between bullets firing in Clan auto cannons.

How the fuqk is buffing clan autocannons going to make clans better in CW? What mech has the free tonnage to bring Autocannons with enough ammo to last through CW?

The next mech I buy is going to be the Kodiak. Not buying a single one before that is in the game.

Good luck then... 3066 is the 3rd variant of the kodiak available for MW: O (one of them that fits the timeline is a snow raven exclusive, never saw Inner sphere ever)

[charov]

Random idea: what if they "loose" the hardwired components a bit? E.g. you have to carry half of the hardwired components:
- 1 BAP? have to carry it;
- 5 JJ? then 3 hardwired;
etc.

It's an idea so terrible that they can really consider it

[Golden Vulf]

Nightshade24, on 25 February 2015 - 01:35 AM, said:

Good luck then... 3066 is the 3rd variant of the kodiak available for MW: O (one of them that fits the timeline is a snow raven exclusive, never saw Inner sphere ever)

One of the KGCs in the game right now is a 3075 variant, King crabs are supposed to have lower arm and hand actuators and some of the AC 20 actuators are mounted in the torso. And I'm pretty sure no AS7 moel Atlas ever had endo steel... And the clans actually brought second wave mechs with them during the first wave to act as garrison.

They've gone really far off canon, and Kodiaks are canon.

But anyway, I meant I'm not buying another after I buy the Arctic Cheetah. I'm not daft!

*edit: maybe I am daft, I unbought arctic cheetah. Just don't play as much as I used to.

Edited by Golden Vulf, 04 May 2015 - 03:26 AM.

[Anakha]

That doesn't make any since as the clan mechs themselves are not balanced against each other at all. The Summoner needs to brought up to the Timberwolfs level. You cant balanced all the IS mechs vs the timberwolf and stormcrow because the rest of the clan mechs are not at the same level. if they upgraded and fixed the mechs like the summoner and nova to bring them up to the timberwolf and stormcrows level then I can understand what Russ is saying but that hasn't happened yet so why the holdup on balancing them?

I also don't understand how you can unfairly balance some chassis with things like fixed JJ when all IS mechs and the timber/kit fox an change omnipods to equip less. How is that balanced? And why do ALL IS mechs get endo and some clan mechs get them only if whoever designed them way back when decided to put endo in it? Again makes no sense to me how that is balanced and fair in their mind.

[Mcgral18]

The M variant of the Summoner is circa 3051.

The Panther 10K is also 3051. Timeline is no longer a valid reason to not include this torso mounted E hardpoint.



Why do I fear it's going to become a Hero? The Malthus Summoner.

[FupDup]

Mcgral18, on 25 February 2015 - 02:03 PM, said:

The M variant of the Summoner is circa 3051.

The Panther 10K is also 3051. Timeline is no longer a valid reason to not include this torso mounted E hardpoint.

Why do I fear it's going to become a Hero? The Malthus Summoner.

All we need is an Enhanced Imaging module included with the "Limited Edition" version and we're all set.

[Brody319]

Ebon Jaguar

RIP Summoner.

[FupDup]

Brody319, on 25 February 2015 - 02:37 PM, said:

Ebon Jaguar

RIP Summoner.

The Mad Cat and Doomcrow already did that during Wave I...

[Brody319]

FupDup, on 25 February 2015 - 02:37 PM, said:

The Mad Cat and Doomcrow already did that during Wave I...

Well..technically all the other heavy clans did it.
Maddog - no missiles
Hellbringer - better fire support
Timberwolf - better everything else.

Ebon Jaguar is basically the final nail in the coffin

[RedDevil]

I actually just picked up the Summoner Prime last night and scored 480 damage the first time I took it out. Usually my first time in stock mechs is a much sadder affair at around 130 damage

Edited by reddevil, 25 February 2015 - 02:48 PM.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

With the upcoming Ebon Jaguar.

The Thor is doomed.

[Deathlike]

FupDup, on 25 February 2015 - 02:30 PM, said:

All we need is an Enhanced Imaging module included with the "Limited Edition" version and we're all set.

You should be asking for a warhorn that repeats "You dare refuse my batchall?"

[Scratx]

FupDup, on 25 February 2015 - 02:30 PM, said:

All we need is an Enhanced Imaging module included with the "Limited Edition" version and we're all set.

Don't forget the energy hardpoints on the legs. All six of them.

[Bishop Steiner]

Golden Vulf, on 25 February 2015 - 01:30 AM, said:

He was tweeting about not being able to buff clan mechs until IS got a higher drop deck cap in CW. And the buff he had in mind was decreasing the time between bullets firing in Clan auto cannons.

How the fuqk is buffing clan autocannons going to make clans better in CW? What mech has the free tonnage to bring Autocannons with enough ammo to last through CW?

The next mech I buy is going to be the Kodiak. Not buying a single one before that is in the game.

Annoys me MORE because the Clan Dropdecks mostly consist of th 3 mechs.... none of which would be buffed by the Endo........ SMH.... if anything it would net weaken Clan Decks, because some people would be willing to at least run a few non Holy Trinity mechs...if they weren't all horribad.

Nightshade24, on 25 February 2015 - 01:35 AM, said:

Good luck then... 3066 is the 3rd variant of the kodiak available for MW: O (one of them that fits the timeline is a snow raven exclusive, never saw Inner sphere ever)

there was no 3rd variant for the Enforcer..... and we got it.

Golden Vulf, on 25 February 2015 - 02:02 AM, said:

One of the KGCs in the game right now is a 3075 variant, King crabs are supposed to have lower arm and hand actuators and some of the AC 20 actuators are mounted in the torso. And I'm pretty sure no AS7 moel Atlas ever had endo steel... And the clans actually brought second wave mechs with them during the first wave to act as garrison.

They've gone really far off canon, and Kodiaks are canon.

But anyway, I meant I'm not buying another after I buy the Arctic Cheetah. I'm not daft!

the lower arms and hands are debateable... the very first printing had neither, with the ACs fully in the arms. There was some bad editing and typos throughout FASAs tenure, where the record sheets gave Jagermechs full arm actuators, too, for instance, and for whatever reason, probably an oversight, they kept the full actuators in the KGC. But the first run of 2750 TROs were very explicit about the arm actuators.

DV McKenna, on 25 February 2015 - 02:49 PM, said:

With the upcoming Ebon Jaguar.

The Thor is doomed.

Um..as already noted, it' was doomed when the Wave 1 pack dropped.

[Kain Demos]

The clan heavies have a clear cut hierachy now:

1. Timberwolf
2. Ebon Jaguar
3. Hellbringer
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Gee, what sets 2 apart from the other 3? No ES (the Hellbringer does not have it either but at least has ECM and terrific and plentiful hardpoints) allowed.

[FupDup]

Kain Thul, on 25 February 2015 - 04:10 PM, said:

The clan heavies have a clear cut hierachy now:

1. Timberwolf
2. Ebon Jaguar
3. Hellbringer
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Gee, what sets 2 apart from the other 3? No ES (the Hellbringer does not have it either but at least has ECM and terrific and plentiful hardpoints) allowed.

The Dawg's problem isn't pod space, it's durability first and foremost. The low hardpoints are kinda annoying but not the biggest factor against it.

[Kain Demos]

FupDup, on 25 February 2015 - 04:11 PM, said:

The Dawg's problem isn't pod space, it's durability first and foremost. The low hardpoints are kinda annoying but not the biggest factor against it.

That is actually true. Its pod space is quite nice actually but its hardpoints kind of limit it to boating missiles which leads to:


1. Boating LRMs is ineffective
2. Boating SRMs limits you to brawling which means you will die fast due to the fragility of the 'mech as you mentioned
3. Boating SSRMs limits you to only being effective against small 'mechs

Since rescaling will never happen (poor Nova) at least adding ES would give it an unreal amount of pod space and maybe give it some sort of use in this game, perhaps the "C" variant with Dual Gauss becoming nice then because it could actually run some armor and ammo.

[FupDup]

Kain Thul, on 25 February 2015 - 04:15 PM, said:

That is actually true. Its pod space is quite nice actually but its hardpoints kind of limit it to boating missiles which leads to:


1. Boating LRMs is ineffective
2. Boating SRMs limits you to brawling which means you will die fast due to the fragility of the 'mech as you mentioned
3. Boating SSRMs limits you to only being effective against small 'mechs

Since rescaling will never happen (poor Nova) at least adding ES would give it an unreal amount of pod space and maybe give it some sort of use in this game, perhaps the "C" variant with Dual Gauss becoming nice then because it could actually run some armor and ammo.

I'd rather give increased internal structure quirks to the side torsos other than the A, to be honest.

(The reason for not buffing the A sides is because they already pack a lot of firepower, so let the user choose between firepower and durability).


I imagine that some people would use that for sword-and-board loadouts (guns all on a single side, other side is dedicated shield), but honestly I don't think it would be very imbalanced, at least not compared to the higher up Clan heavies and the Doomcrow...

Edited by FupDup, 25 February 2015 - 04:17 PM.