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The State Of The Summoner (Hey Pgi Devs, This Post Is For You Guys, Just Fyi)

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#1041 Wintersdark

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Posted 06 April 2015 - 10:25 PM

View PostKoniving, on 06 April 2015 - 07:51 PM, said:

Bad idea. It isn't even supposed to be much of an option for regular mechs, why free it up on the Omnimechs?
Because, whether you like it or not, it IS open on Battlemechs and that will not change.

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The issue is PGI's lack of realizing something very simple from the BT universe. All Battlemechs feature what the Omnimechs call Fixed Equipment.
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The problem isn't that endo/ferro is locked. It's that Endo is NOT locked when it should be for the Inner Sphere.


I understand all this.

The problem is that this is a game design issue, not a lore issue. If you arbitrarily restrict Endo, you make mechs without it simply worse. There's no balance to this: excepting a couple 100t builds, all mechs are flat out improved by Endosteel.

If they left endo locked on IS mechs, those without itbwould be (like our current clan mechs without it) simply bad in comparison.

How we'd like things to be in a perfect world doesn't really matter. We have the game we have. IS isn't going to lose ES

#1042 Telmasa

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Posted 07 April 2015 - 01:36 AM

No endo on IS mechs?

That would really...really suck.

I'd rather have endo available on IS mechs than the quirkcheese.

#1043 Anakha

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Posted 08 April 2015 - 11:22 AM

Quirks just are not getting it done at all. 2 quirk passes now and they just are not giving any type of quirks that effect the Summoners performance in combat.

They have to allow JJ's to be removed and the ability to upgrade to Endo Steel because the quirks alone are having almost NO effect on gameplay.

#1044 Anakha

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Posted 16 April 2015 - 09:51 PM

Stormcrow and Timberwolf getting new variants now with more energy hard points making the gulf between them and mechs like the Summoner even greater and the Summoner can't even get descent quirks. Ridiculous if you ask me.

#1045 Deathlike

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Posted 16 April 2015 - 10:42 PM

I thought Russ said once that he liked the Summoner.

Yet, the Stormcrow, Timberwolf, and Dire Wolf are getting buffs.

Someone please make that a meme.

Edited by Deathlike, 16 April 2015 - 11:05 PM.


#1046 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 07:34 PM

Time for a little Necro on the Summoner, say I!

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 03:10 AM

personally i'm sick and tired of the fact that 99% of the mechs i see in PUG-land are all Summoners. does nobody pilot anything except Summoners now? ever since they buffed the Summoner all i see is a flood of summoners out there.

guys, there's other mechs in your mechlab to pilot other than Summoners, you know? give Summoners a rest and try something new!

#1048 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 04:31 AM

View PostJagdFlanker, on 25 May 2015 - 03:10 AM, said:

personally i'm sick and tired of the fact that 99% of the mechs i see in PUG-land are all Summoners. does nobody pilot anything except Summoners now? ever since they buffed the Summoner all i see is a flood of summoners out there.

guys, there's other mechs in your mechlab to pilot other than Summoners, you know? give Summoners a rest and try something new!

.............................not sure if serious..... or partaking of peyote? :huh:

#1049 Navid A1

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 04:56 AM

View PostJagdFlanker, on 25 May 2015 - 03:10 AM, said:

personally i'm sick and tired of the fact that 99% of the mechs i see in PUG-land are all Summoners. does nobody pilot anything except Summoners now? ever since they buffed the Summoner all i see is a flood of summoners out there.

guys, there's other mechs in your mechlab to pilot other than Summoners, you know? give Summoners a rest and try something new!

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#1050 Deathlike

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 05:22 AM

There, I found the source where Russ claims his love for the Summoner...

http://mwomercs.com/...5-january-2014/


Now only if we could get the Summoner-M...

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 08:48 AM

View PostKraftySOT, on 05 March 2015 - 11:43 AM, said:

PGI was tired of the Fly meta game, so they nerfed the wings.


So you blame PGI for the "Fly Meta game" then? Hmmm. Very interesting. Do you also blame PGI when you miss a shot for a Kill? Because you know, PGI built the weapons you were using too right... :(

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 08:58 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 25 May 2015 - 04:31 AM, said:

.............................not sure if serious..... or partaking of peyote? :huh:


I think he may indeed be on peyote Bishop but it may be causing him to mistake the HellBringer for the Summoner... ;)

#1053 Telmasa

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 03:34 PM

clearly his post wasn't dripping with enough sarcasm

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 04:18 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 25 May 2015 - 04:31 AM, said:

.............................not sure if serious..... or partaking of peyote? :huh:

View PostNavid A1, on 25 May 2015 - 04:56 AM, said:

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View PostAlmond Brown, on 25 May 2015 - 08:58 AM, said:


I think he may indeed be on peyote Bishop but it may be causing him to mistake the HellBringer for the Summoner... ;)


you guys are all killing me here. really? really? haha



View PostTelmasa, on 25 May 2015 - 03:34 PM, said:

clearly his post wasn't dripping with enough sarcasm


i guess if i said 100% of mechs out there were Summoners instead of 99% that would have erased that slight doubt that i must have been serious lol. i play almost every single day and i havn't seen a f***ing Summoner in MONTHS, even after the new quirks


Summ's dead, baby.

Summ's dead.

Edited by JagdFlanker, 25 May 2015 - 04:19 PM.


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Posted 25 May 2015 - 04:20 PM

View PostJagdFlanker, on 25 May 2015 - 04:18 PM, said:


you guys are all killing me here. really? really? haha





i guess if i said 100% of mechs out there were Summoners instead of 99% that would have erased that slight doubt that i must have been serious lol. i play almost every single day and i havn't seen a f***ing Summoner in MONTHS, even after the new quirks


Summ's dead, baby.

Summ's dead.



I see summoners all the time. When they're on my team I glare at them. When they're on the enemy team I smile and go in for the kill.

#1056 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 05:27 PM

53 pages in six months O.o

#1057 Anakha

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 06:03 PM

Ya and still no Dev time or comment from PGI. Pretty sad...

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 06:05 PM

View PostJagdFlanker, on 25 May 2015 - 04:18 PM, said:


you guys are all killing me here. really? really? haha





i guess if i said 100% of mechs out there were Summoners instead of 99% that would have erased that slight doubt that i must have been serious lol. i play almost every single day and i havn't seen a f***ing Summoner in MONTHS, even after the new quirks


Summ's dead, baby.

Summ's dead.

OK...had to check. Been a lot of stupid floating around these parts of late, ya know? :P
(And some people, some long time, Founders type people, still stick to the oddest beliefs....)

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 06:15 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 25 May 2015 - 06:05 PM, said:

OK...had to check. Been a lot of stupid floating around these parts of late, ya know? :P
(And some people, some long time, Founders type people, still stick to the oddest beliefs....)


COMMAND CONSOLE FOR THE D-DC AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT!!!11!

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 11:12 AM

Can't believe Russ likes the Summoner considering it has basically gotten no dev treatment other than the bad quirks they put on it so far. Nothing to address the lack of Endo, fixed JJ, overall lack of hard points. I mean they could very easily fix its issues with a little dev time for it. Add another missile hard point to the LT, unlock Endo and JJ, give it ammo/t quirks or more energy heat reduction etc... so many things they could do but haven't done anything to help it out.





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