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The State Of The Summoner (Hey Pgi Devs, This Post Is For You Guys, Just Fyi)

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#1061 VortexD

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 07:08 AM

Curious any chance the thor will see a buff? Adding even the G version might make it better

#1062 Idealsuspect

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 07:29 AM

the state of summoner streakoner
crap i fall into a necro topic soorrry

Edited by Idealsuspect, 21 October 2015 - 07:31 AM.


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 08:33 AM

View PostIdealsuspect, on 21 October 2015 - 07:29 AM, said:

the state of summoner streakoner
crap i fall into a necro topic soorrry

SSRMs are worthless in MWO. Press that R key and they go away anyway because you just range them. SSRMs are not even missiles, they are fuzzy dice rolls because PGI essentially gave up on trying to balance them as missiles. You may see missiles, but the game just rolls a random 14-16% chance for what section takes damage except the head. This ensures that on average the damage is applied to every section, except the head which is immune. So basically any other weapon is better, even a small laser. SSRMs are too easy to counter, unless of course one doesn't even try.

And this thread is the current Summoner thread, not necro'd, PGI just has never done anything. I am not sure anyone would buy the Summoner if they did. However, since the Summoner will always be limited in weapons due to low payload, heatsinks, hardpoints and 5 useless HOVER-JETS....... PGI should grant it bonus armor and structure. Just pretend it's an Inner Sphere mech needing some quirks like the Dragon.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 08:35 AM

View PostIdealsuspect, on 21 October 2015 - 07:29 AM, said:

the state of summoner streakoner
crap i fall into a necro topic soorrry

considering the point of the OP is just as valid now as when I penned it, there are worse necrotraps to be snared in.

It's just not FotM like PSR or the new Group MM.

#1065 Idealsuspect

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 08:36 AM

View PostLightfoot, on 21 October 2015 - 08:33 AM, said:



Most of summoners i see are streakmoners (98%)

Last post before today was 28 may, it's a necro topic that's all. stop posting ty

#1066 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 08:40 AM

View PostIdealsuspect, on 21 October 2015 - 08:36 AM, said:


Most of summoners i see are streakmoners (98%)

Last post before today was 28 may, it's a necro topic that's all. stop posting ty

naw, I kind of like it. Think I'll post a few more times.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 08:41 AM

View PostIdealsuspect, on 21 October 2015 - 08:36 AM, said:


Most of summoners i see are streakmoners (98%)

Last post before today was 28 may, it's a necro topic that's all. stop posting ty


I see very few Streak loadouts. I see more poptarts; but they are a rare breed period.


Keep posting, because these sad mechs need attention.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 08:43 AM

View PostMcgral18, on 21 October 2015 - 08:41 AM, said:


I see very few Streak loadouts. I see more poptarts; but they are a rare breed period.


Keep posting, because these sad mechs need attention.

BAM.

The Father of the Wubshee has spoken. All listen and give him an "AMEN"!

(Though my "Free Endo 4 the Poor" is probably a more comprehensive and more important one to push...I stopped promoting this one as it kind of fit into the other)

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 21 October 2015 - 08:44 AM.


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 08:43 AM

View PostIdealsuspect, on 21 October 2015 - 08:36 AM, said:


Most of summoners i see are streakmoners (98%)

Last post before today was 28 may, it's a necro topic that's all. stop posting ty

If it's current, it's not necro'd. And where do you see Summoners? I have seen one Summoner back in September and it did not carry SSRMs.

SSRMs are junk, as soon as I see a mech has SSRMs I just evade and range it. What good are they? Maybe just hang out and when your teammates have killed and wrecked everything run out and try to K/S. Any heavy or assault with good armor will eat you for a lite dessert. The cherry on top.

#1070 Idealsuspect

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 08:46 AM

View PostMcgral18, on 21 October 2015 - 08:41 AM, said:


I see very few Streak loadouts. I see more poptarts; but they are a rare breed period.


Keep posting, because these sad mechs need attention.


I see only that but in fact i see only same pilots still driving summoners streakoners,
This mechs need attention yea but lots of mechs need, whatever PGI don't read all topics and if they read it they obviously don't try to listen or change anything right.

It's a necro topic sorry if i fall into and reactivated it ( its VortexD primary fault )

Edited by Idealsuspect, 21 October 2015 - 08:48 AM.


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 08:52 AM

View PostLightfoot, on 21 October 2015 - 08:43 AM, said:

SSRMs are junk, as soon as I see a mech has SSRMs I just evade and range it. What good are they? Maybe just hang out and when your teammates have killed and wrecked everything run out and try to K/S. Any heavy or assault with good armor will eat you for a lite dessert. The cherry on top.


Someone said streaks are good there ? Guess you are talking alone be happy with that.
It's dead topic before today nothing more but you can post something constructiv avout summoner if you want ... Or just post something about me :)

View PostBishop Steiner, on 21 October 2015 - 08:40 AM, said:

naw, I kind of like it. Think I'll post a few more times.


I dont care :) i didn't apologize for ya indeed.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 08:53 AM

I used to think the Summoner was total balls

but I have been doing very well in it, and I have decided I love the mobility. This is not that bad a mech at all


I know it can't spam 7 laser alphas like the nublets need for it to meet the requirement of a "good mech"

requires some ability to pilot well beyond "map left click to all weapons"

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 09:00 AM

I ran my SMN with MLas and LRMs and got some very good results. OFC that was before the laservomit meta and me being a T3 scrub who doesn't run meta of any flavor (unless the mech has nothing but one type of HP (crab/blacknight/top dog) but even then I have AMS, different energy weaps, and empty hardpoints).

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 09:06 AM

think I mentioned many moons ago, that mechs with fixed jump jets should get a performance boost, more fuel, thrust, and recycle faster, than pod mounted ones!.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 09:25 AM

View PostSgtMagor, on 21 October 2015 - 09:06 AM, said:

think I mentioned many moons ago, that mechs with fixed jump jets should get a performance boost, more fuel, thrust, and recycle faster, than pod mounted ones!.

yeah, I pushed for that, too...got no traction. But a lot of butthurt. How odd, that something engineered to jump would do it more efficiently than something with Jato rockets taped to it's butt!

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 09:30 AM

Summoner's are good mechs. Its the players who dont know how to use em. L2P.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 09:37 AM

View PostAlwrath, on 21 October 2015 - 09:30 AM, said:

Summoner's are good mechs. Its the players who dont know how to use em. L2P.

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While they aren't Terribad, they aren't great.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 09:48 AM

View PostAlwrath, on 21 October 2015 - 09:30 AM, said:

Summoner's are good mechs. Its the players who dont know how to use em. L2P.

LMAO trolls are funny.

The Summoner is the worst Clan heavy and can barely beat IS heavies. Its pretty ******* bad!

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 09:50 AM

View Postmogs01gt, on 21 October 2015 - 09:48 AM, said:

LMAO trolls are funny.

The Summoner is the worst Clan heavy and can barely beat IS heavies. Its pretty ******* bad!


I take it your one of those players who doesnt know how to use 5 JJ's on a heavy. Typical.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 09:52 AM

View PostAlwrath, on 21 October 2015 - 09:50 AM, said:


I take it your one of those players who doesnt know how to use 5 JJ's on a heavy. Typical.

huh...cept I can take 5 on a timberwolf and still be objectively better. Go figure. Or ECM on a Hellbie. Or insanely high hardpoints on a Jag.





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