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[Mcgral18]

Navid A1, on 31 December 2014 - 05:01 PM, said:

Are these going to be availabe some day or they are just leftover models and omnipods?

They are unique and should be implemented...at some point.


Most are the other variants (A through D in some cases) that were not put into the game (only 3 were chosen, including the Prime), but are in timeline.

Some variants are pretty much identical, or redundant, but some are also new.


I'll ask Russ at some point after the New Year, and hope he responds.

Edited by Mcgral18, 31 December 2014 - 05:06 PM.

[Navid A1]

Mcgral18, on 31 December 2014 - 05:05 PM, said:

They are unique and should be implemented...at some point.


Most are the other variants (A through D in some cases) that were not put into the game (only 3 were chosen, including the Prime), but are in timeline.

Some variants are pretty much identical, or redundant, but some are also new.


I'll ask Russ at some point after the New Year, and hope he responds.

I've been through the models a few months ago... thinking why a dire wolf has a lrm15 rack in CT. or energy on STs.
I thought that modelers could not delay the modeling because of the delay on the final decision on the released variants. And they left the assets in the pack.

Edited by Navid A1, 31 December 2014 - 05:12 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Navid A1, on 31 December 2014 - 05:12 PM, said:

I've been through the models a few months ago... thinking why a dire wolf has a lrm15 rack in CT. or energy on STs.
I thought that modelers could not delay the modeling because of the delay on the final decision on the released variants. And they left the assets in the pack.

They are modelled, and seem to be ready to be coded in.

They just haven't been.

[Andi Nagasia]

lets hope we get these soon,

some may see broken but they really arnt,
SCR 13E seems broken but then you have 3-4 tons you cant use due to space,
TBR may seem broken but due to cockpit placement you still have to expose your self,
DWF B-CT+P-arms+S-HD&ST=14E, 2 words Ghost heat, and it only has 3JJ,... 3!?!?!,

i think they would be nice additions and really wont make too much of a difference,
same food item but abit more spicy, NVA still needs some salt,...

[Andi Nagasia]

we can also assume we can get the TBR-D,
as its CT is that of the C(1E), and Side-Torsos are like the S,
having only 2 missiles in each side, no Ballistics, energy, or JJ,

[Kassatsu]

I'd be ok with a hero Adder losing its hard-wired flamer in favor of, well, anything else. Maybe a machine gun and half ton of ammo instead?

In all seriousness, I wouldn't mind seeing one. I'd be kinda mad my goldie is completely obsolete and worthless in comparison (who wouldn't want a laser that's there until you die no matter what? Unless you're being machine gunned by an arrow in the CT anyway), unless there was some way to make that one gold as well (which wouldn't make THAT much sense, but then again... It should have been a camo pattern for the mech to begin with, rather than its own variant, though that would have left the prime(I) and potential hero variants out, so... why not both?).

Edited by Kassatsu, 02 January 2015 - 09:03 PM.

[Marcel Bekker]

I can see one real advantage the Dire Wolf S gets from the otherwise anemic 3 JJs... since you can turn while in the air, and it is almost invariably faster than turning on the ground, this would probably enable the Dire Wolf S to better keep up with circling lights/mediums.

Confident light pilot runs in and humps the rear, and gets the scare of his life when the Whale suddenly begins to hover-turn and get that LBX20 in the arm on target...

OUCH!

Btw the 3rd JJ is in the CT along with the SSRM-4. No two crit missile weapons for that hardpoint I am afraid.

Edited by Marcel Bekker, 03 January 2015 - 03:12 AM.

[Andi Nagasia]

Marcel Bekker, on 03 January 2015 - 03:09 AM, said:

Btw the 3rd JJ is in the CT along with the SSRM-4. No two crit missile weapons for that hardpoint I am afraid.

are you sure?

Navid A1, on 31 December 2014 - 05:12 PM, said:

I've been through the models a few months ago... thinking why a dire wolf has a lrm15 rack in CT. or energy on STs.
I thought that modelers could not delay the modeling because of the delay on the final decision on the released variants. And they left the assets in the pack.

please tell me its in the RL, PLEASE,
i need my LRM15 or Streak6 there, PLEASE!

on another note, the DWF-C CT ECM would help too,...
really would love TBR-D ST(2M each), i dont need JJ,

[Mcgral18]

Andi Nagasia, on 03 January 2015 - 08:58 AM, said:

are you sure?


please tell me its in the RL, PLEASE,
i need my LRM15 or Streak6 there, PLEASE!

on another note, the DWF-C CT ECM would help too,...
really would love TBR-D ST(2M each), i dont need JJ,

The S is a CT JJ slot, as is the C. C isn't until 3054, with ATMs.


It also doesn't have the JJ slots modelled separately, as mechs like the TimberWolf and Banshee do. Neither does the Nova, though those ones are hardwired and cannot be removed, so they are modelled directly onto the CT and leg.

Edited by Mcgral18, 03 January 2015 - 11:28 AM.

[Andi Nagasia]

Mcgral18, on 03 January 2015 - 11:27 AM, said:

The S is a CT JJ slot, as is the C. C isn't until 3054, with ATMs.

dam, well i tried,
personally im hoping for
KFX-C LA(2E 2B)
NVA-A LT(1E 1AMS)
NVA-C LT(1M)
TBR-D ST(2M each),
DWF-S ST(2E 1B(LT +1M))

if i could wish for a non Lore Omni-pod,...
NVA-? RT(1M) to go with the NVA-C LT(1M),

[Andi Nagasia]

@Mcgral18, there is a rumor about a DWF-Ho(Hohiro) RT(1M) being in the game files? your thoughts on this?
Edit- Spelling

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 03 January 2015 - 09:29 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Andi Nagasia, on 03 January 2015 - 09:28 PM, said:

@Mcgral18, there is a rumor about a DWF-Ho(Hohiro) RT(1M) being in the game files? your thoughts on this?
Edit- Spelling

I've got no missiles in the RT, nor the 3rd laser in the LT.


I wouldn't be against it, but I don't really use the Whale. Too slow.

[Andi Nagasia]

Mcgral18, on 03 January 2015 - 09:41 PM, said:

I've got no missiles in the RT, nor the 3rd laser in the LT.

I wouldn't be against it, but I don't really use the Whale. Too slow.

i wish we perhaps got the DWF-U ST(3M each),
at least it would give it an option for missile support,

[Andi Nagasia]

@Mcgral18,
hey could you do a mock up of a TBR-D please,
im sure with all available weapon locations it should be possible,
thanks

[Mcgral18]

Andi Nagasia, on 05 January 2015 - 08:34 PM, said:

@Mcgral18,
hey could you do a mock up of a TBR-D please,
im sure with all available weapon locations it should be possible,
thanks

You can technically already make it, minus the 4 tons of JJs.


The stock D.

[Andi Nagasia]

Mcgral18, on 05 January 2015 - 09:07 PM, said:

You can technically already make it, minus the 4 tons of JJs.


The stock D.

thank god need those STs like yesterday,
think im the only one that uses the TBR as a missile boat,
i kinda dont need or use JJ, so STs with out them would be good,

Edit- Spelling

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 05 January 2015 - 10:38 PM.

[Andi Nagasia]

from another topic on the TDR-9S,

ThisMachineKillsFascists, on 06 January 2015 - 05:46 AM, said:

https://mobile.twitt...359461315411968
an earlier post from russ already stated into that direction but ppl rather understood it wrong.

Thunderbold (9s) is essential for Isvs Clan balance especially on longrange.
Theres no problem with the 9s in public queues.

since the TDR-9S isnt getting toned down abit,
(if those who dont know, it has 50% heat reduction on PPCs)


@Russ- can we please get these Omni-Pods? since they are already in the Game Data,
also because they are in the game date you could code them in with out too much work to add,
we all know you are all coming back from break and it will be awail till you get your momentum back,
but i feel releasing them would keep the Player'anhas at bay, give your team abit of wiggle room,
as it would take weeks for players to play with all these Omni-pods and see what works for them,

[Andi Nagasia]

Please Russ?

[Mad Strike]

Mcgral18, on 26 December 2014 - 05:47 PM, said:

To begin, the humble Cute Fox, who's C left arm allows for both 2 lasers and 2 MGs; combined with the S STs for 4MGs, 2 JJs, ECM and 3 lasers. Sounds nice:




The Nova could also do 3 AMS with the A STs and S CT, but here's the A variant to start:


So much wasted space...I wonder why the arm is so big?

Oh...maybe this is why..

Missiles, the D variant.

Also the C, for a potential of two M hardpoints.


The Adder didn't have anything special, just a ballistic on the other arm. Also has a PPC and laser textures for the head...I wonder why.


Now the 'Crow...has some slightly scary stuff.
The A variant, some extra lasers on the left arm:


The B variant, known for a big cannon and 6 lasers:


By their powers combined... the SCR-NOVA:


Nova has teh sads...


Continuing onto the Summoner, it seems to only have one hardpoint not implemented; a E slot on the LT. This seems to come from a 3051 variant, the M:


It could have some nice uses, such as this:

High mounted PPC.


The TimberGod-A is...kinda fearsome. Here's the stock loadout:


Well...aren't those nice and high mounted weapons.

How does 3ERLL, 6ERSL sound?
Because it certainly looks nice:


Warhawk didn't have much either...but a CT E hardpoint might be nice:


Apologies for the windows on this one and the next...I broke it somehow.

Now...this Whale...is also a little bit scary.

Natasha's WidowMaker:


This one seems to be the S variant:


...it also jumps.

Fun.



Wave II mechs might come at a later date, but the script that works for older mechs does not work on the new ones.

These screens were taken using this method:
http://mwomercs.com/...ing-pgis-mechs/

Actually you can make Nathasha kerenky WIDOWMAKER , victor steiner davion PROMETHEUS and Phellan Wolf LONE WOLF.

Had to make a slight modification of Prometheus because of the damm ghost heat , same for LONEWOLF because of this game heat scale and needed more ammo.

LONEWOLF (changed LRM20s for 15s)

WIDOWMAKER

PROMETHEUS (one less Large Pulse Laser ....stupid ghost heat)

Edited by strikebrch, 13 January 2015 - 10:05 AM.

[Andi Nagasia]

strikebrch, on 12 January 2015 - 04:11 PM, said:

Actually you can make Nathasha kerenky WIDOWMAKER , victor steiner davion PROMETHEUS and Phellan Wolf LONE WOLF.

true but these hard point locations would help,

especially for lesser Omni-Mechs such as:
KitFoxs, Adders(unlock the flamer), Novas, Summoners,

and also as well for the better Omni-Mechs though much less,
SCR-A-B= yay more energy, but use all the energy points and 3 tons left over with no space, also larger arms,
TBR-A= ya 3 High energy points sounds good, but lets not forget where the TBRs cockpit is also there's Clan heat,
TBR-D= ST with 2M hard points each, would help non JJ missile builds +4 ammo clearly game breaking, lols,
WHK-C(yes its the C)= so +1E hard point, would be cool, but still not as much a bonus as you would think,
DWF-S= of course S ST are broken, 1B 2B and the LT also has 1M, awesome, but clan heat problem,
DWF-WM= well cool and 2E CT cool, but most likely a hero going to be offered for MC, maybe, ish,