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#21 Brody319

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 07:41 PM

View PostShredhead, on 04 January 2015 - 07:35 PM, said:

Why should they nerf the 9S? Because some clammer babbies came crying? I bet they'll buff other IS mechs to that level to be competitive versus clan tech.


Why shouldn't they nerf the 9S? because some IS babies came crying?

#22 Shredhead

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 07:47 PM

View PostBrody319, on 04 January 2015 - 07:41 PM, said:


Why shouldn't they nerf the 9S? because some IS babies came crying?

IS pilots came crying about the 9S? Doubtful. If you refer to IS pilots crying about clan tech, I refer you to all the nerfs that did not happen the last few months. Should tell you something. And why are you in here? The 9S is only prevalent in CW matches, which you are obviously not even playing...

#23 Ultimax

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 07:57 PM

View PostShredhead, on 04 January 2015 - 07:47 PM, said:

IS pilots came crying about the 9S? Doubtful. If you refer to IS pilots crying about clan tech, I refer you to all the nerfs that did not happen the last few months. Should tell you something. And why are you in here? The 9S is only prevalent in CW matches, which you are obviously not even playing...



It makes him feel bad about his <insert favorite mech> being <choose one: A] Being shot by snipers using PPCs or B] not as optimal for PPCs>.

Edited by Ultimatum X, 04 January 2015 - 07:58 PM.


#24 Nothing Whatsoever

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 07:59 PM

Well, all that needs to be done is trade the ERPPC specific quirks between the TDR-9S (25%) and the AWS-9M (12.5%) where they both would then be 37.5% for ERPPCs each, keeping the rest of the quirks in place.

Here's a table calculating some numbers as to what the trade will do, along with the AWS-8Q to compare them to PPCs.

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#25 Brody319

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 08:02 PM

View PostShredhead, on 04 January 2015 - 07:47 PM, said:

IS pilots came crying about the 9S? Doubtful. If you refer to IS pilots crying about clan tech, I refer you to all the nerfs that did not happen the last few months. Should tell you something. And why are you in here? The 9S is only prevalent in CW matches, which you are obviously not even playing...

View PostUltimatum X, on 04 January 2015 - 07:57 PM, said:



It makes him feel bad about his <insert favorite mech> being <choose one: A] Being shot by snipers using PPCs or B] not as optimal for PPCs>.



I've been playing Hunchbacks, and other IS mechs for the past like 2 weeks. So don't give me any of that "IS players don't complain about the 9S only the Clanners do" bullshit. There are plenty of people out there who think this chassis is bullshit and needs to be nerfed.

#26 Shredhead

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 08:09 PM

View PostBrody319, on 04 January 2015 - 08:02 PM, said:



I've been playing Hunchbacks, and other IS mechs for the past like 2 weeks. So don't give me any of that "IS players don't complain about the 9S only the Clanners do" bullshit. There are plenty of people out there who think this chassis is bullshit and needs to be nerfed.

Yeah, because "plenty of people" believing something somehow makes it right. News flash, plenty of people think their religion is right and yours is wrong. It's a fallacy. Don't go there.

#27 Yokaiko

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 08:20 PM

View PostShredhead, on 04 January 2015 - 08:09 PM, said:

Yeah, because "plenty of people" believing something somehow makes it right. News flash, plenty of people think their religion is right and yours is wrong. It's a fallacy. Don't go there.



This is the same bunch of people that are concerned about balance that will tell you that LRMs are OP.

#28 Mirumoto Izanami

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 08:23 PM

9s Heat quirks should be adjusted downward, though the main issue isn't the 9s, it's the failings of CW.

Edited by Mirumoto Izanami, 04 January 2015 - 08:24 PM.


#29 ThisMachineKillsFascists

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 09:05 PM

Didnt russ pointed out a few hours ago on twitter that the 9s is doing its job as intended and that they have no "fix" plans on the 9s?

Did you guys miss that?

Edited by ThisMachineKillsFascists, 06 January 2015 - 06:37 PM.


#30 Davers

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 09:09 PM

View PostThisMachineKillsFascists, on 04 January 2015 - 09:05 PM, said:

Didnt russ pointed out a few hours ago on twitter that the 9s is doing its job as intended and that they have no "fix" plans on the 9s?

Did you guys miss that?

I missed it.

#31 ThisMachineKillsFascists

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 09:10 PM

View PostDavers, on 04 January 2015 - 09:09 PM, said:

I missed it.



https://twitter.com/...837197456777216

Edited by ThisMachineKillsFascists, 04 January 2015 - 09:51 PM.


#32 Davers

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 09:12 PM

View PostThisMachineKillsFascists, on 04 January 2015 - 09:10 PM, said:


Ummm…that quote says they are slightly reducing/changing it, not that 'it is doing the job it is supposed to'?

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 09:12 PM

damn that is going to cause some tears.

#34 ThisMachineKillsFascists

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 09:13 PM

View PostDavers, on 04 January 2015 - 09:12 PM, said:

Ummm…that quote says they are slightly reducing/changing it, not that 'it is doing the job it is supposed to'?

No , he said that they have no plans on other quirk reductions besides the done firestarter and the 5ss

Edited by ThisMachineKillsFascists, 06 January 2015 - 09:23 PM.


#35 Mcgral18

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 09:13 PM

View PostThisMachineKillsFascists, on 04 January 2015 - 09:10 PM, said:



There is no 9SS.

He either meant the 5SS and FS9-A nerfs in the last pass, or the 9S is getting slightly reduced (as it should be).

40%/9 heat ERPPCs should be better. 50% and 7.5 is a little ridiculous.

Edited by Mcgral18, 04 January 2015 - 09:14 PM.


#36 Brody319

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 09:14 PM

View PostThisMachineKillsFascists, on 04 January 2015 - 09:10 PM, said:




he didn't say "working as intended" So don't misquite 120 characters. he said "we slightly changed/reduced quirks on 9SS and a fire starter - not adverse to other changes,nothing decided yet"

As in, they are still debating if it needs to be worked on. also the 9S has become an increasingly hot topic and debate over the past few days meaning its likely to get more attention by PGI.

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 09:15 PM

View PostThisMachineKillsFascists, on 04 January 2015 - 09:13 PM, said:

No , he said that they have no plans on other quirk reductions besides the done firestarter and the 9ss

No, he says other changes are not out of the question. LOL Did you link the right post? You seem to get the exact opposite of what I think he is saying...

#38 ThisMachineKillsFascists

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 09:16 PM

View PostBrody319, on 04 January 2015 - 09:14 PM, said:



he didn't say "working as intended" So don't misquite 120 characters. he said "we slightly changed/reduced quirks on 9SS and a fire starter - not adverse to other changes,nothing decided yet"

As in, they are still debating if it needs to be worked on. also the 9S has become an increasingly hot topic and debate over the past few days meaning its likely to get more attention by PGI.

Coolol. Lrms, ecm were and are a topic since 2 years. and they hardly touched it. Ppc meta was a topic for a year , then they touched it.

9s works as intended. killing some clans on distance. Since the clans dont have superiority on distance they appeared massively on forum to QQ all way long

Edited by ThisMachineKillsFascists, 06 January 2015 - 09:24 PM.


#39 Brody319

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 09:18 PM

View PostThisMachineKillsFascists, on 04 January 2015 - 09:16 PM, said:

Coolol. Lrms, ecm were and are a topic since 2 years. and they hardly touched it. Ppc meta was a topic for a year , then they touched it.


they Put Ghost heat on LRMs, they buffed BAP, PPCs have always and likely will always be meta because they deal all their damage at once, from a long range.

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Posted 04 January 2015 - 09:19 PM

If the TDR gets nerfed the only competitive ranged weapon left on the IS side is the Gauss - Thunderwub and Thunderpeep be overquirked - so expect more Dual Gauss configs.

Some Mediums have silly Quirks but lack either or at all range, armor, speed.

Dragon has to expose himself so much for his low arms while also overquirked.

Lights - the overquirked Lights are not Firestarters nor have ECM.

I have seen Mist Lynx doing insane things so maybe it will find its way into Clan Dropdecks.
Adders have been slaughtered all the few matches i was in.

Edited by Thorqemada, 04 January 2015 - 09:20 PM.






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