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[Devil Fox]

To be honest Oceania is in the same bloody boat when the change comes. I live East Coast of Australia, closing of the ceasefire will be 1am, the kiwi's ahead of me 2 hour's will have a 3am finish. About the only ones that will affect CW in the final hours will be Central Asia, and West Coast Aussies, simply because it would finish 11pm for them.

Whilst I like their thinking of other localities... the fact is there are many other mechanics that should be investigated then just fire a blanket fix of multiple ceasefire's are what are general bad times. If it does go on... doubt I'll participate in the Oceanic one, I'll just wake up early for the 9am EU window and then continue to do the NA ceasefire which will be pushed to 5pm my local time. It actually is a decentive doing my regional one to actually do ones that will matter (OCX probably won't move planets greatly).

[Bagor Aga]

NextGame, on 08 January 2015 - 01:46 AM, said:

Although my first thought being that a rotating time window would have been my preference, thinking on it, the 3 windows is the better idea.

3 windows means that what you actually do in CW will have more impact, as there is a shorter window to capture/defend a planet, so your results and where you fight matters.

It also covers the whole globe on a daily basis, so theres no "no ceasefires happening today in my timezone, I don't need to play". i.e. it encourages participation.

Windows could shift back and forth during the week like +\-1 hour to fine tune each need. I'ts better to plan time rather then come back from one work to another.

Edited by Bagor Aga, 08 January 2015 - 03:55 AM.

[Kjudoon]

Make the ceasefires every 8 hours even, rotating the clock 2 hours each day with the extra 40 minutes per cease fire calibration. Every one is put over the barrel equally.

[RustyBolts]

Monday through Friday my play time is only 6 pm to 9 pm EST so I was not available for the final CW push at night anyway. I still tried to help my team either build a lead or take some points off the board before I logged out in the hopes that those farther west could finish the job. Nothing is going to change for me.

[Kjudoon]

Please also note that this will not cure ghost drops, or the pre ceasefire hotzone because the number of victories is STILL far too low. Eliminate this by making it total victory per window or use a boxing round analogue where the most victories in an hour per territory gets a token towards victory and the most tokens at cease fire wins.

Till something along these lines are done, you are just accelerating the problems 300%

[Joseph Mallan]

GrizzlyViking, on 07 January 2015 - 09:00 PM, said:

Dear Russ,

1:00 AM is not in any way, shape, or form, a good time for East Coast US players to end their gaming day! This new 1:00 AM CF time excludes every player who works a dayshift job that lives on the US East Coast. I can assure you that I will not spend another penny on MWO if the CW CF time remains at 1:00 AM.

GV

Sir... You are playing this game way to much if you feel you cannot play anymore after 1am... There is the open Que to feed the need after 1am...

[Chemie]

I see no reason why the zones all need to be 8 hoursa. You could easily have oceanic shorter since I assume there are less players anyway...they might have problems with populations in CW anyway.

Should leave EST to midnight.

[Bigbacon]

so... same issues just everyone can participate better in the final hour to win a planet? So CW will have high populations 3 times a day and be a ghost town other wise?

[Banditman]

I like the idea of three windows, however, I would like it BETTER if the beginning and end of each window had a random +/- 90 minutes.

[Lily from animove]

GrizzlyViking, on 07 January 2015 - 09:00 PM, said:

Dear Russ,

1:00 AM is not in any way, shape, or form, a good time for East Coast US players to end their gaming day! This new 1:00 AM CF time excludes every player who works a dayshift job that lives on the US East Coast. I can assure you that I will not spend another penny on MWO if the CW CF time remains at 1:00 AM.

GV

is that worse than what we had before or not?
you view is quite weird, becasue with this logic now 24 people come each of its own timezone.

the game would be bets if we had 50 zones and a planet si conquered when attackers reach 40 zones independend from any daytime or ceasife.

this way after it siwtches factions the new atackers starting at 40:10 base and have at leats to conquer 30 areas before it can switch again. yet defenders cna still extend the buffer from 40 to 50 by successful counterattacking.

[Sprouticus]

My real concern is that small units (CC/CSJ/CJF and to a lesser extent DC) will get royally screwed during AP and Euro times.

I doubt CSJ will be able to field even 1 team during A-P times and will struggle to field more than 2 during Euro times. Which means we will lose planets to ghost drops. a LOT of planets. Maybe even 1-2 a day.

That is untenable.


I would have preferred either:

2 windows that rotate 8 hours per day (16 hour windows)
or
increase the zones to 30, and assign 10 to each region. Require 16 to win. alternately base the number of zones upon population (5 for A-P, 10 for Euro, 15 for NA). Then rotate the start time on a 36 hour schedule

but lets try it out and see. I very well might be wrong. It happen. Occasionally. :}

[wanderer]

I cry no tears for the OP, and I'm on EST. That's 1AM EST, going all the way to 11PM PST.

Deal with it. Heck, some of us night owls (yours truly works an 11-7 and usually goes to bed around 2AM) will be fighting at that hour and have other people around the world to help- and now those people also get windows to not feel like useless drags.

[Felix7007]

Wow. Your a little brat. 1am is actually THE most perfect time for EST. Don't try and ruin what they actually have done right. I am EST btw.

I get to play and watch the battles ramp up to the 2hr mark right before I go to bed.

Edited by Felix7007, 08 January 2015 - 10:37 AM.

[DEMAX51]

I live on the East Coast, I work a full-time day-shift job, and I strongly prefer the NEW ceasefire time.

Edited by DEMAX51, 08 January 2015 - 10:42 AM.

[GrizzlyViking]

Updated my OP with this solution..."Simple solution...three, 9 hour CF times...this keeps the rotation moving each day for everyone."

[Kjudoon]

GrizzlyViking, on 08 January 2015 - 11:39 AM, said:

Updated my OP with this solution..."Simple solution...three, 9 hour CF times...this keeps the rotation moving each day for everyone."

Part of the problem is PGI wants to keep the rotation optimum for the pacific time zone. Don't blame them, but that's a problem.

[AztecD]

try it and then you say if you like it or not

like bondage

[Kenyon Burguess]

no one say anything that will get this forum post closed, I want to be able to use the responses for the future QQ posts from west coast, europe and asia on how the eastern time zones aren't carrying their weight in day to day operations.

[Grynos]

So essentially it comes down to CF ending at 12:20AM EST, the European CF ending at 4:20 PM EST , and the Asian/OC CF ending at 8:20 AM EST. I think this is a good first step in solving the problem of the Europeans as well as the A/OC players having a say in the battles. I live on the east coast, my days start at 5AM and in no way do I have any issue with how they setup the CF times. Now if your reasoning is that you cannot participate because of it being an hour later, that's absurd. You may not get to see the results, but unless it is a close battle, where it is in the 30%-60% range then you should probably know the outcome that one hour before the CF.

As far as having families, other obligations, etc. Many others have those as well. Being only able to play two to three times a week is what you can contribute and there is nothing wrong with that, but should those that play every night or even four to five times a week be penalized for it?? Drawing a planets outcome over a three day period would create a situation of stagnation. The way they are changing it actually means more people will have a say in the outcomes, not less.

Some factions/clans have a huge NA presence , some have a huge European or Asian/Oceanic presence. Some have multiple. The constant back and forth of the changing of the planets throughout the CF's should prove interesting. Time will tell how well it works, but this is a very good first step.

[Revis Volek]

pwnface, on 08 January 2015 - 12:06 AM, said:

I hope everyone is aware that 10pm PST is when ceasefire ends. Ceasefire actually begins 40 minutes earlier at 9:20pm PST or 12:20 EST.

It is only one hour later guys!

I usually am playing this till 1am on nights i play anyway so really no difference for me. Not to mention during the weekend i will be able to run 12's in TWO of THREE CW windows!

This will work out better then most are thinking In my opinion.

I also see this as being just a spinning of the wheel for most Medium to Small Units now. Planets will get taken back and forth in the windows and no one will gain any ground. They will just change from one hand to the other making no real progess where the Large units like MS and CI who could potentailly have a pressence around the clock will be taking world left and right...on 1 NA window will not be able to compete against the othre 2 timezones.

But we will see! I have doubt but i also have high hopes!

Edited by DarthRevis, 08 January 2015 - 01:58 PM.