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[El Bandito]

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Grand_Dragon

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Commando

Since Grand Dragon is nothing more than upgraded Dragon chassis and the same goes for COM-5S, PGI does not have to design new mechs from scrap while enlarging the mech selection.

Granted, the upgraded versions do not have any noticeable hardpoint differences compared to the old versions--except Grand Dragons have energy slots on right and left torso, and has higher engine rating--but PGI had done hardpoint inflation to differentiate mechs; Grasshopper being a good example. Perhaps making Grand Dragon variants to have better laser vomit potential or shift the missile hardpoint to a slot where it can fit larger launchers.

There lies the question though: If PGI releases DRG-1G, DRG-5K, and COM-5S with slightly different/inflated hardpoints, would you buy them?

Edited by El Bandito, 09 January 2015 - 04:57 PM.

[The Cheese]

Commando: nope. They're just no good, you see.

Dragon: Also probably nope. I already have 3, and I only have that many because I needed them for mastery.

[Brody319]

Just buff/rework the current dragons into the Grand Dragon.

Commando, I mean you can put that build on the commando now so...why bother?

[Black Arachne]

How bout we go with the following mech - so that the Awesome can use it as cover.

[El Bandito]

Brody319, on 08 January 2015 - 09:52 PM, said:

Just buff/rework the current dragons into the Grand Dragon.

Commando, I mean you can put that build on the commando now so...why bother?

Hence I specifically mentioned about hardpoint inflation, and Grasshopper.

Black Arachne, on 08 January 2015 - 09:54 PM, said:

How bout we go with the following mech - so that the Awesome can use it as cover.

Gotta wait until 3053 for that one.

Edited by El Bandito, 08 January 2015 - 09:56 PM.

[FupDup]

Arctic Cheetah.

Edited by FupDup, 08 January 2015 - 09:54 PM.

[Agent 0 Fortune]

I'm not feeling it. The Grand Dragon, doesn't feel all that different than a DRG-1C or Flame. The missile upgrade option wont work due to the CT critical space. As for the Commando, it doesn't seem functionally different that the ones we have, except for the new technology they haven't developed.

At this point I would prefer they polish what they have, including upgrading textures and dynamic weapons on the remaining mechs (not to mention the whole CW thing).

[Bishop Steiner]

mmmmmmm....would love me a Grand Dragon. Always one of my favorite Heavies. 97 kph stock? 106 with speed tweak? Can mount up to a 400XL?

With Dragon level quirks? E hard points in both ST and the arms? Tier 5 mech quirks? 2 high torso mount ST energy hardpoints? ER PPC love?

I dig it.

[CocoaJin]

I would buy the Grand Dragon...my CW role playing decks will needz them. Especially if they considered it a Dragon chassis for skills. I'd rather not have to skill up three more Dragons.

That being said, I doubly needz my Hatamoto variants first.

Black Arachne, on 08 January 2015 - 09:54 PM, said:

How bout we go with the following mech - so that the Awesome can use it as cover.

I could just imagine that mech wheezing and huffing & puffing across the map...that fat ******* got two giant Chipotle burritos on his back.

Edited by CocoaJin, 08 January 2015 - 11:14 PM.

[Triordinant]

3050:

[Risen]

I'd take the grand dragon, like it.
If it comes with proper ER-PPC and energy quirks

Grand Crusader just for warming my silent Blakist heart

[Lily from animove]

Grand dragon only has 2 variants in 3050 available.
also not sure if you want those shoulders, lol, they are easy picking targets.

[Matthew Ace]

Grand dragons are Dragons too.

Me? I want to see the Venom. Count it as a Spider.

[El Bandito]

Lily from animove, on 09 January 2015 - 02:09 AM, said:

Grand dragon only has 2 variants in 3050 available.
also not sure if you want those shoulders, lol, they are easy picking targets.

2 variants are fine. The Grand Dragon is just equipment upgraded regular Dragons. Therefore the chassis size and hitboxes are exactly the same. PGI can just add those two variants on top of the Dragon variants we got.

Edited by El Bandito, 09 January 2015 - 02:22 AM.

[CycKath]

Will totally buy! So many variants in timeline I'd love to see also like the Wolverine 6M too!

[Lily from animove]

El Bandito, on 09 January 2015 - 02:21 AM, said:

2 variants are fine. The Grand Dragon is just equipment upgraded regular Dragons. Therefore the chassis size and hitboxes are exactly the same. PGI can just add those two variants on top of the Dragon variants we got.

it would work then, but why do they then even ahve a new name for it? IS are weirdos

[Joseph Mallan]

Great points El.

But since I am a Lyran Player I won't be buying a Kurita Mech ...Unless Its packaged with a superior Lyran Built mech as well.

FYI The Commando does not count. As any true Blue Blooded Lyran knows, The Commando is Battle Armor!

[Lily from animove]

Joseph Mallan, on 09 January 2015 - 05:24 AM, said:

Great points El.

But since I am a Lyran Player I won't be buying a Kurita Mech ...Unless Its packaged with a superior Lyran Built mech as well.

FYI The Commando does not count. As any true Blue Blooded Lyran knows, The Commando is Battle Armor!

you could strip your talas and put a grand dragon on top of it. Then you have a Lyran emch armed with a grand dragon.

[Willard Phule]

Sounds interesting....there's only one flaw.....it CAN'T be 3050.

In the Battletech Timeline, by 3050, the following things have shaped the Inner Sphere before the Clan Invasion:

- Hanse Davion marries Melissa Steiner
- The Federated Suns and Lyran Commonwealth combine to become the Federated Commonwealth
- The 4th Succession war starts and ends

Those things seem to be rather important......well, everywhere but Canada, I guess.

[Joseph Mallan]

Lily from animove, on 09 January 2015 - 05:33 AM, said:

you could strip your talas and put a grand dragon on top of it. Then you have a Lyran emch armed with a grand dragon.

And contaminate my Superior Lyran Machine with slimy Snake materials? Preposterous!