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#1 Triskelion

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 01:52 AM

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Because I want to boat them on a whale. That is all.

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 01:53 AM

Boat them? You're lucky to if you are able to get 2 of em.

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 06:19 AM

View PostTriskelion, on 11 January 2015 - 01:52 AM, said:

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Because I want to boat them on a whale. That is all.

View PostTheSilkenPimp, on 11 January 2015 - 01:53 AM, said:

Boat them? You're lucky to if you are able to get 2 of em.

Unless PGI allows crit-splitting, the OP wouldn't be able to get any Long Toms onto any 'Mech. :rolleyes: The weights & crits for both IS & Clan artillery cannons can be confirmed to be identical on the "Heavy Weapons and Equipment Construction Data" table on page 405 of Tactical Operations.

The Long Tom, at 15 criticals for both the IS & Clan models, is too bulky to fit within any single section of a 'Mech (which would have, at most, 12 criticals available), so it cannot be fitted to a 'Mech without crit-splitting.

The Sniper & Thumper, being small enough to fit into a single 'Mech section (unlike the Long Tom), would make for more realistic goals on which to focus the OP's request. ;)

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 06:45 AM

View PostTriskelion, on 11 January 2015 - 01:52 AM, said:

Because I want to boat them on a whale. That is all.

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#5 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 06:53 AM

View PostTriskelion, on 11 January 2015 - 01:52 AM, said:

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Because I want to boat them on a whale. That is all.

Son... (I called him son *Snicker*) If I give you Long Toms, I will have killed you! :lol:

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 06:53 AM

I would love to see PVE maps with these kind of additions.

Edited by Sarlic, 11 January 2015 - 06:54 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2015 - 07:48 AM

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No Long Tom till Clan Quirks!!! :)




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#8 C E Dwyer

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 09:09 AM

Ugh..power creep ...be happy with what you got..

#9 Tennex

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 09:15 AM

some kind of arching AOE artillery weapon would add a lot to game play.

Edited by Tennex, 11 January 2015 - 09:16 AM.


#10 John Wolf

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 09:19 AM

You already have long toms. -> Arty Consumable

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 09:29 AM

View PostTennex, on 11 January 2015 - 09:15 AM, said:

some kind of arching AOE artillery weapon would add a lot to game play.



Similar to a grenade launcher in other games...

interesting

There must be some BT version of a grenade launcher!

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 09:30 AM

View PostcSand, on 11 January 2015 - 09:29 AM, said:



Similar to a grenade launcher in other games...

interesting

There must be some BT version of a grenade launcher!


yup would not mind seeing a tactical option against death balls

#13 Triskelion

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 09:44 AM

View PostTennex, on 11 January 2015 - 09:30 AM, said:


yup would not mind seeing a tactical option against death balls


Besides just being derp, that's part of the reason I made the thread. AoE options (so long as these weapons actually have arc and travel slowly enough that they aren't pathetically easy to use) would be very welcome during massive deathballs on maps with confined spaces.

#14 Alistair Winter

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 10:26 AM

This would essentially destroy an already broken CW invasion mode, given that the maps are shaped like meatgrinders, pushing 12 mechs through a confined space with very little room to maneuver.

I would definitely like to see Long Toms, but Boreal Vault and Sulfurous rift would have to be completely redesigned if the Long Tom had any value.

How do you see the firing mechanism though? Would it be like a modern cannon, where you just point and fire and the targeting computer sorts out the trajectory? Or would it be like Bang Bang!, Worms and Scorched Earth, where you aim, click and hold to determine the trajectory and velocity of the shell? The latter would be necessary for indirect fire. And Long Toms without indirect fire would be sacrilege.

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 10:29 AM

View PostcSand, on 11 January 2015 - 09:29 AM, said:



Similar to a grenade launcher in other games...

interesting

There must be some BT version of a grenade launcher!


So we'll get to call it the noobtube?

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 10:32 AM

View PostJohn Wolf, on 11 January 2015 - 09:19 AM, said:

You already have long toms. -> Arty Consumable

not even close to the same thing. They aren't even in the same ball park. I'll ask for Madden 2015, and you would give me this:

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#17 Deathlike

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 10:46 AM

You'll get the latter, because I've yet to see new weapons added (Clan Weapons are not new, since they are modifications of existing stuff).

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 11:31 AM

View PostSaxie, on 11 January 2015 - 10:32 AM, said:

not even close to the same thing. They aren't even in the same ball park. I'll ask for Madden 2015, and you would give me this:


I know, they are 1000% better, you get to carry full tonnage allocation in equipment in addition to your pocket LongTom.





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