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[Deathlike]

jeirhart, on 24 February 2015 - 03:24 PM, said:

Paul updated the map.

Now CGB has a Kurita attack and a FRR.

I see that.

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And for some reason CJF can not attack FRR anymore even though FRR can attack us but we can attack CGB but they can not attack us

CJF doesn't border FRR anymore and thus they can't attack each other.

The GB-CJF issue is always a fun anomaly.

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Kurita can also not attack Steiner while Steiner can attack them, even though that does not matter.

The algorithm is perfect!

At this point, they just need to build the "lines" and then use a closest point in a particular direction (Terra or not-Terra) and pick points accordingly.

Still, it probably needs an intervention everyday.

[jeirhart]

Deathlike, on 24 February 2015 - 05:13 PM, said:

CJF doesn't border FRR anymore and thus they can't attack each other.

Think you missed the part where FRR can attack CJF but not the other way around.

[Cimarb]

jeirhart, on 24 February 2015 - 05:24 PM, said:

Think you missed the part where FRR can attack CJF but not the other way around.

Working as intended!

[Prussian Havoc]

jeirhart, on 24 February 2015 - 05:24 PM, said:

Think you missed the part where FRR can attack CJF but not the other way around.

Just checked the API data depictions here: https://mrbcleague.com/cw/index.html#

FRR has SEVEN attack options, to include ALL four Clans... apparently CSJ is once again vulnerable through the Idlewind wormhole. (Or better yet, the Wing Commander reference to Pilgrims and their Quasars Jumps!)

At least it now appears that even if the Algorithm still hates CGB, Paul (@PGImanInTheLoop) ensures that a Kurita planet is manually added. And THAT is all to the good.

Now if only we can convince the algorithm that Clan Jade Falcon does NOT need to go WIDE, counquering a front 200-light years from flank to flank, maybe we can get both CGB and CJF bypassing the increasingly irrelevant FRR pocket.

Once it is obvious that Jade Falcon and Ghost Bear Galaxies are swarming toward Terra and well past ANY effect originating from the FRR, the Mercenary Corps Units currently contracted there will move on to more relevant Factions.


And as it currently sets...

The preponderance of systems between the Clans and the Gates of Terra are held by House Kurita... with the THINNEST of stip of worlds held by House Davion.

With the loss of its "quasar-jump-generated" pocket of 18-worlds to House Kurita Linerators, the Marik new-Star-League is as irrelevant as the FRR is quickly becoming.


I am NOT saying the Clans are entering the last leg of the Liberation of Terra, I am saying that we find ourselves currently at a "seventh inning stretch" ~ many huddles and challenges have been overcome, while many still remain but with The fading of FRR [especially since the last time I checked, the cutting of Clan Supply Lines does not negatively impact a Clan's advance on Terraa (something that should be fixed prior to Launch, Lines of Supply really should impact a Clan,,both beneficially as well as negatively)] the last remaing House of Significant Consequence is House Kurita.

Sure ALL Inner Sphere Houses can DEFEND Kurita worlds, but he HEAVY LIFTING of spoiling attacks, Operatinal Counterattacks on LEADING EDGE INVASION CORRIDOR WORLDS will fall squarely (and rather heavily) on the broad (though few) shoulders of the DCMS and it's esteemed High Command.

Unless the Inner Sphere Mercenaries commit "lock, stock and barrel" to the Dragon and there is achieved at least a modicum of synchronicity between the whipsaw/dialect of Offense and Defense,,,


...the Dragon will surely put up a truly epic and mighty Fight, and just as enexorably as an NS Attack is difficult to Break, the Dragon will die a Dealth of a Thousand Cuts as eventually ALL Four Clans gain Attack Vectors in Kurita Space and the full weight of simultaneous Clan Offensives overwhelm and reduce one Kurita world after another to so much Sulfurous Rift, Hellebore Springs and Boreal Vault ruin and rumble.



(That is if the Clans decide to a gamer to set aside ALL parochial concerns and reach Terra as One Fighting Force that just happens to have four distinct Mech Camo Patterns... and that has only been happening in fits and starts. More work yet needs to be done.)

[Cimarb]

I think Wolf/Falcon will be pushing through Steiner, but otherwise good post, Prussian. Things are finally starting to turn around for this invasion, it seems...

[Prussian Havoc]

Cimarb, on 25 February 2015 - 02:04 PM, said:

I think Wolf/Falcon will be pushing through Steiner, but otherwise good post, Prussian. Things are finally starting to turn around for this invasion, it seems...

House Kurita actually has had an attack option on The Marik world of Keid for one maybe two cycles now. If pushed by DCMS High Command, the Combine could capture it as easily as any of the 18-Marik recently lost to a resurgent and revitalized DCMS.

BUT... there are numerous signs that the Marik-new-Star-League "Soft Peace" has taken root over the past 3 or 4-days, at least wrt House Kurita. Unless CSJ receives a Mercenary Corps, Unit influx, it will be a "long hard slog for CSJ in the near term I am afraid.

[SteelWarrior]

Prussian Havoc, on 25 February 2015 - 10:02 PM, said:

House Kurita actually has had an attack option on The Marik world of Keid for one maybe two cycles now. If pushed by DCMS High Command, the Combine could capture it as easily as any of the 18-Marik recently lost to a resurgent and revitalized DCMS.

BUT... there are numerous signs that the Marik-new-Star-League "Soft Peace" has taken root over the past 3 or 4-days, at least wrt House Kurita. Unless CSJ receives a Mercenary Corps, Unit influx, it will be a "long hard slog for CSJ in the near term I am afraid.

I wouldnt worry about that too much, by the looks of it the Marik butthurt is increasing to over 9000%, i fully expect them to attack us any day now, and when that happens we'll vanish from your borders and you can walk up to Terra unopposed. lol

[Prussian Havoc]

When there is a single Inner Sphere attack option, it has been proven RIGHT and PROPER that Clan Mercenary Corps Units should look to "dual", "practice" and run "training exercises" against fellow Mercenary Corps Units (and any loyalists who which to join) on neighboring Clan worlds. In the normal course of events it is common practice for these worlds to change hands one, two or three times over the course of a month.

It is NOT a declaration of War, nor should it be looked on as such for Mercenary Corps Units to first liberate all available Inner Sphere Worlds, and then move along smartly to offer combat at all available Clan Worlds.

The road to Terra is long and hard.

Much practice and many training exercises are required to ensure optimal readiness of forces for both the upcoming Battle of Tukayyid as well as the eventual Battle of Terra.


COME JOIN US ON THE MARCH TO TERRA,,, take all Inner Sphere Worlds and then offer combat at available Clan Worlds.

[NextGame]

Hi angry kittens, we're here to save you from the terrible red lizard people for the next 28 days.

[reign]

NextGame, on 27 February 2015 - 07:09 AM, said:

Hi angry kittens, we're here to save you from the terrible red lizard people for the next 28 days.

Salute AS

Welcome aboard

Be wary of locust pilots with laser pointers.

Battlemasters carrying cardboard boxes.

and offers of "the stuff" (catnip).

[Prussian Havoc]

<----- This Icon (Kurita for 24hs on 01MAR) happens when you travel abroad to visit Units, make performance-based, contractual bonus clause payments and visit your Alternate Account. Besides... if there is ONE thing that beats FRR Tukayyidian Mead, it is drinking saki while watching the Cherry Blossoms fall in Imperial City Luthien!

reign, on 27 February 2015 - 09:28 AM, said:

Salute AS

Welcome aboard

Be wary of locust pilots with laser pointers.

Battlemasters carrying cardboard boxes.

and offers of &quot;the stuff&quot; (catnip).

With Antares Scorpions under a 28-day contract, I trust many Smoke Jaguars will take the opportunity both in the forums and in-game to welcome AS to our ranks.

Edited by Prussian Havoc, 02 March 2015 - 07:37 AM.

[Prussian Havoc]

I have asked Galaxy Commander III Mordin Ashe to join me in a "Level-20" Community Warfare Council to better advise PGI on all matters relating to Community Warfare... not just Invasion Mode,

AND RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING let me make it known that my future Thread on this topic will ALWAYS be inclusive of ALL constructive comments NOT only those of MWO gamers who have seen fit and had the opportunity to achieve Level-20 in Community Warfare.

BUT UNLIKE the exclusionary domains of select Unit Commanders where Only the points of view of a handful carry inordinate weight and unrestricted access to EXCLUSIVE REDE ROOM strategy decision threads...

I intend for ALL CW gamers to have an opportunity to focus on issues facing CW-writ-large. Though I must admit, I will have a tendency to vest more credibility in gamers who have completed the Level-20 journey with me.

Just as I would NEVER pretend to know more about COMP gaming than any PGI-recognized high level COMP Gamer, I trust that the repetition of CW needed to reach CW Level-20 will engender certain perspectives in any Gamer so fortune as having the time and intent to reach for that particular mark of distinction.

HOWEVER, once a viewer (with his Forum Faction Rank turned "on") becomes a post contributor, he or she quickly proves or disproves by his/her own words the value of their comments.



I look forward to your comments here, in our CSJ/CGB thread, about the viability of such a proposition.

Perhaps I will start such a thread now that there is at least one other Level 20 known to me (though I hear of one other CGB, one CJF and 4-Inner Sphere gamers who are themselves close to attaining CW Level-20.)

Or perhaps I will decide to wait until there are a hundred or more CW Level-20 gamers before pursuing a future version of my proposal here.


Yes, I look forward to ALL input on how best to craft such uniquely aligned CW feedback to PGI now... here while we are still deep in BETA.

Edited by Prussian Havoc, 03 March 2015 - 11:40 AM.

[Jaroth Corbett]

An ilClan cannot be predetermined.

[Damocles]

wait...where'd all the xanax go?

[Prussian Havoc]

Jaroth Corbett, on 03 March 2015 - 01:54 PM, said:

An ilClan cannot be predetermined.

The key to #KingMaking in any election is to know predilections, predispositions and proclivities of the electors-at-large.

When there are as few electors as there would be for an ilKhan determination... predictive analysis is indeed possible.

[Noesis]

Prussian Havoc, on 03 March 2015 - 10:06 PM, said:

The key to #KingMaking in any election is to know predilections, predispositions and proclivities of the electors-at-large.

I would suggest starting with more inclusive policies, as in reality the soceity you would be representing needs to include all points of perspective and not just a limited subset as per the intentional level 20 club/clique ideal.

In this sense you then have a perspective of actual reality at the time as opposed to assuming that "potential" is the best or only understood way to govern these things.

Experience is useful as a point of perspective but it is not the all determining wisdom in being able to understand MWO mechanics or its prinicipals. In fact by not supporting more policies with inclusivity, equality and diversity motivating your political stance you could simply end up alienating yourself.

Unsure then however if this is as intended since you recognise or identify this in a sense of "#kingmaking" which assumes a poistion of authority where an individual has supreme power as opposed to recognising that soceity holds the power and is empowered to govern itself in the more modern understood democratic process.

[Jaroth Corbett]

Prussian Havoc, on 03 March 2015 - 10:06 PM, said:

The key to #KingMaking in any election is to know predilections, predispositions and proclivities of the electors-at-large.

When there are as few electors as there would be for an ilKhan determination... predictive analysis is indeed possible.

I typed ilClan not ilKhan. The ilClan cannot be predetermined, since it it not based on elections, but rather on results i.e. the Clan that conquers Terra but in lieu of that, seeing as that might never happen, the Clan that performs best for the invasion; which would include the capturing & HOLDING of x number of planets for y length of time.

If you want to go into the process of selecting an ilKhan which will NEVER happen for this game, I can break that down for you from a lore perspective.

Edited by Jaroth Corbett, 03 March 2015 - 11:03 PM.

[Seth]

Prussian Havoc, on 03 March 2015 - 11:35 AM, said:

I have asked Galaxy Commander III Mordin Ashe to join me in a "Level-20" Community Warfare Council to better advise PGI on all matters relating to Community Warfare... not just Invasion Mode,

AND RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING let me make it known that my future Thread on this topic will ALWAYS be inclusive of ALL constructive comments NOT only those of MWO gamers who have seen fit and had the opportunity to achieve Level-20 in Community Warfare.

BUT UNLIKE the exclusionary domains of select Unit Commanders where Only the points of view of a handful carry inordinate weight and unrestricted access to EXCLUSIVE REDE ROOM strategy decision threads...

I intend for ALL CW gamers to have an opportunity to focus on issues facing CW-writ-large. Though I must admit, I will have a tendency to vest more credibility in gamers who have completed the Level-20 journey with me.

Just as I would NEVER pretend to know more about COMP gaming than any PGI-recognized high level COMP Gamer, I trust that the repetition of CW needed to reach CW Level-20 will engender certain perspectives in any Gamer so fortune as having the time and intent to reach for that particular mark of distinction.

HOWEVER, once a viewer (with his Forum Faction Rank turned "on") becomes a post contributor, he or she quickly proves or disproves by his/her own words the value of their comments.



I look forward to your comments here, in our CSJ/CGB thread, about the viability of such a proposition.

Perhaps I will start such a thread now that there is at least one other Level 20 known to me (though I hear of one other CGB, one CJF and 4-Inner Sphere gamers who are themselves close to attaining CW Level-20.)

Or perhaps I will decide to wait until there are a hundred or more CW Level-20 gamers before pursuing a future version of my proposal here.


Yes, I look forward to ALL input on how best to craft such uniquely aligned CW feedback to PGI now... here while we are still deep in BETA.

I nominate Galaxy Commander III Viper Nine of KCOM to represent CJF in your initiative. I pointed him to your thread and he expressed a certain type of interest in joining your council!

[Airamel]

Seth, on 04 March 2015 - 02:04 AM, said:

I nominate Galaxy Commander III Viper Nine of KCOM to represent CJF in your initiative. I pointed him to your thread and he expressed a certain type of interest in joining your council!

Since I known him as a lancemate in many battles, I can vouche for his honor and grand skill as a mechwarrior. He has earned his grand achievement and deserves this great honor!

Edited by Airamel, 04 March 2015 - 02:09 AM.

[Cimarb]

Jaroth Corbett, on 03 March 2015 - 11:00 PM, said:

The ilClan cannot be predetermined, since it it not based on elections, but rather on results i.e. the Clan that conquers Terra but in lieu of that, seeing as that might never happen, the Clan that performs best for the invasion; which would include the capturing & HOLDING of x number of planets for y length of time.

While I agree that it cannot be predetermined, I do not agree with altering the criteria. The only ilClan is the one that takes Terra. There should be no alternative.