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[SteelWarrior]

Key word: Held.

You dont rank if you dont play. Nothing to do with ego, but feel free to toss words around as you please, the CURRENT faction map is all the proof i need to support my post.

Edited by SteelWarrior, 18 January 2015 - 06:27 PM.

[Frost Lord]

Davers, on 18 January 2015 - 01:08 PM, said:

I think they look at CW drop numbers very closely. Otherwise I don't think Clan Wolf, easily one of the more popular Clan factions, wouldn't have gotten the LP/CB boost.

I think wolf have moved over to ghost bear to help with the massive push, I jumped over just to compare it to Kuritia but iv only had one game because no one seems to be on, many have been doing normal drops like every other side but still they seem vary underpopulated.

[Davers]

Frost Lord, on 18 January 2015 - 06:21 PM, said:

I think wolf have moved over to ghost bear to help with the massive push, I jumped over just to compare it to Kuritia but iv only had one game because no one seems to be on, many have been doing normal drops like every other side but still they seem vary underpopulated.

Lots of Wolf players went over to CGB to help out? LOL Funny how Wolf is the one promoting systems to punish people for switching factions.

[Vlad Ward]

There is also this: http://www.reddit.co..._battle_report/

The Draconis Combine has lost roughly as many planets as the Steiners, Liao, Swedes, and Wolves combined. Those 5 factions are the only factions with negative overall gains since CW launch.

So, yeah.

[Crockdaddy]

Song Weyland, on 18 January 2015 - 06:07 PM, said:

Actually you are quite incorrect on that score. The Takata Lancers held a planet. You might want to wind that ego in of yours, several other Kuritan house units held planets to...besides you.
You aren't the best-just the most active in CW.

The EGO was earned. I don't normally encourage any amount of trash talking but the fact is we have put in the time and we very rarely lose. Even with several green recruits we don't lose ... not to pugs for sure but we face many 10 / 12 man units. Our clan record is massively positive and for right now there isn't a unit in Steiner, Davion, or Clan Wolf that I would expect to lose to if we do our job. JGx and Errodien Lead CGBI have been the only clan competition which has given us any losses and ask them, we have beaten them more than they have us (in drops I have been involved in). We have beaten mixed units with SRJ elements in it and fought LORDs hard (yes we lost ... no lost honor in that). We are a very competitive team. We are not perfect and sometimes we can be a bit arrogant but we at least try. No shame in that at all. 9th Sword is close in terms of being competitive and they have the numbers for CW but they are currently finishing up MRBC right now. Hopefully with the incoming changes the large number of organized EU teams can be more involved and 9th comes back we can get more agressive in CW again. I'd love to see sister units getting the attention they deserve. It takes time and this is beta ...

[Lord Ikka]

5 more weeks of Marik Civil War I believe and then we're on the front lines full time Crock! We are having our guys start the transition to CW though, training up new members and getting good decks tested. The 9th Sword will be there with you.

Not that MCW hasn't been rewarding- gaining the number 1 pirate unit is fun!

Edited by Lord Ikka, 19 January 2015 - 02:30 AM.

[Djinnhammer]

CrockdaddyAoD, on 19 January 2015 - 01:54 AM, said:

The EGO was earned. I don't normally encourage any amount of trash talking but the fact is we have put in the time and we very rarely lose. Even with several green recruits we don't lose ... not to pugs for sure but we face many 10 / 12 man units. Our clan record is massively positive and for right now there isn't a unit in Steiner, Davion, or Clan Wolf that I would expect to lose to if we do our job. JGx and Errodien Lead CGBI have been the only clan competition which has given us any losses and ask them, we have beaten them more than they have us (in drops I have been involved in). We have beaten mixed units with SRJ elements in it and fought LORDs hard (yes we lost ... no lost honor in that). We are a very competitive team. We are not perfect and sometimes we can be a bit arrogant but we at least try. No shame in that at all. 9th Sword is close in terms of being competitive and they have the numbers for CW but they are currently finishing up MRBC right now. Hopefully with the incoming changes the large number of organized EU teams can be more involved and 9th comes back we can get more agressive in CW again. I'd love to see sister units getting the attention they deserve. It takes time and this is beta ...

Fair enough but tossing that ego around brings much shame upon you. The lords looked like "less than decent people" be careful you don't go the same way.
Bragging is a most unbecoming activity. If your guys run their mouths off-it makes your unit look quite bad, up until Steel's mouthing off I had a very good deal of respect for you guys.
Don't be the next HoL....show people Kurita is good spirited AND natured. Lose the ego and people will look up to you and hopefully flock to you.

[Crockdaddy]

Lord Ikka, on 19 January 2015 - 02:19 AM, said:

5 more weeks of Marik Civil War I believe and then we're on the front lines full time Crock! We are having our guys start the transition to CW though, training up new members and getting good decks tested. The 9th Sword will be there with you.

Not that MCW hasn't been rewarding- gaining the number 1 pirate unit is fun!

We missed signing up by a week in MCW I know we wanted to coordinate with ya. I can't wait until the Jan 20th patch so we can cross unit drop.

[Crockdaddy]

Song Weyland, on 19 January 2015 - 02:53 AM, said:

Fair enough but tossing that ego around brings much shame upon you. The lords looked like "less than decent people" be careful you don't go the same way.
Bragging is a most unbecoming activity. If your guys run their mouths off-it makes your unit look quite bad, up until Steel's mouthing off I had a very good deal of respect for you guys.
Don't be the next HoL....show people Kurita is good spirited AND natured. Lose the ego and people will look up to you and hopefully flock to you.

I do kinda understand what you mean. I have dropped fairly often with LORDs (old iteration) and not all of them were as characterized. Many actually went out of their way to help others learn the game better.

I think we are still a far cry from being "uber" arrogant ... and Steel merely expresses some frustration we have while trying to expand Kurita interests. So hopefully the Jan 20th patch will help all involved.

[Scoops Kerensky]

CrockdaddyAoD, on 19 January 2015 - 03:08 AM, said:

I do kinda understand what you mean. I have dropped fairly often with LORDs (old iteration) and not all of them were as characterized. Many actually went out of their way to help others learn the game better.

I think we are still a far cry from being "uber" arrogant ... and Steel merely expresses some frustration we have while trying to expand Kurita interests. So hopefully the Jan 20th patch will help all involved.

I and the other members of the NKVA can vouch that Night's Scorn are some of the friendliest people we've encountered in MWO. We're interested in contributing to CW in both the short and long-term which obviously helps, but its definitely a rare thing to see 'elite' players willing to take the time to help, advise, and even carry players that've been playing for barely 2 weeks on daily basis. You're all far from being arrogant.

[GauntDACC]

Wow.... what a load from the clanner trash-borns.

HHoD stands to assist Kurita but do understand..... we only come help your borders if called upon to assist by our Davion High Command.

[Vlad Ward]

CrockdaddyAoD, on 19 January 2015 - 01:54 AM, said:

The EGO was earned. I don't normally encourage any amount of trash talking but the fact is we have put in the time and we very rarely lose. Even with several green recruits we don't lose ... not to pugs for sure but we face many 10 / 12 man units. Our clan record is massively positive and for right now there isn't a unit in Steiner, Davion, or Clan Wolf that I would expect to lose to if we do our job. JGx and Errodien Lead CGBI have been the only clan competition which has given us any losses and ask them, we have beaten them more than they have us (in drops I have been involved in). We have beaten mixed units with SRJ elements in it and fought LORDs hard (yes we lost ... no lost honor in that). We are a very competitive team. We are not perfect and sometimes we can be a bit arrogant but we at least try. No shame in that at all. 9th Sword is close in terms of being competitive and they have the numbers for CW but they are currently finishing up MRBC right now. Hopefully with the incoming changes the large number of organized EU teams can be more involved and 9th comes back we can get more agressive in CW again. I'd love to see sister units getting the attention they deserve. It takes time and this is beta ...

Uh, huh? I've only been with CSJ for, I dunno, 3 days? And I've never lost a game against NS 9-12 mans, even using PUGs. I get that perception is 9/10ths of the truth on the internet, but making bold claims like "We've only ever lost to these couple units here, and never against PUGs" is just asking to get whammied by the truth stick.

I originally took this screen to demonstrate to certain members of CSJ that merc pilots are good enough to not chase out of their faction, but it works just as well here:



Upon further inspection, you were even in that drop, so you can't really claim ignorance. I've also played a few more games against NS 9+ mans in the past couple days where we've won with either PUGs or scattered 3-ish member groups from different CSJ teams, but I didn't feel the need to screenshot them all because who the hell does that.

Don't take this the wrong way. Each of those games was played well. NS isn't a bad team by any means. It's just useful to remember that making bold, sweeping claims leaves you open to being called the heck out.

Edited by Vlad Ward, 19 January 2015 - 11:43 AM.

[SteelWarrior]

LOL. Bold sweeping claims

Yup. Thats us alright, the only organized unit in our entire faction, dropping 7 nights a week, from 7pm-2am for 3 weeks straight, while getting 0 assistance from anyone else, and im the ******* for pointing it out in a thread labelled "Weakest CW faction". Lol. Guess its ego to point out why the house is getting trashed so hard, right crock

Heres an idea Vlad, why dont you take your clan out of the stacked faction and come fight for HK, then you can be as annoyed with the situation i am.



On that note i am eager to see what can be done with 9th sword and NKVA fighting beside us. Heres to hoping the situation improves.

[Chef Kerensky]

SteelWarrior, on 19 January 2015 - 04:52 PM, said:

LOL. Bold sweeping claims

Yup. Thats us alright, the only organized unit in our entire faction, dropping 7 nights a week, from 7pm-2am for 3 weeks straight, while getting 0 assistance from anyone else, and im the ******* for pointing it out in a thread labelled "Weakest CW faction". Lol. Guess its ego to point out why the house is getting trashed so hard, right crock

Heres an idea Vlad, why dont you take your clan out of the stacked faction and come fight for HK, then you can be as annoyed with the situation i am.



On that note i am eager to see what can be done with 9th sword and NKVA fighting beside us. Heres to hoping the situation improves.

S-senpai noticed us...

[Karpundir]

Allow me to clarify QQ's impression of Kurita as a whole... the DCMS is just not very organized. It is not in reference to your skill, but to the seemingly absent coordination of the entire faction's efforts.

I feel for your plight. You have lost many, many planets. In order to fight CSJ effectively, DCMS leadership (units) need to arrange for ceasefires and/or partnerships with the southern IS factions. You have peace with The FRR, but they have enough problems of their own vs the Clans to be of much assistance. YOU NEED MORE FRIENDS!

That is all...

[Scoops Kerensky]

Karpundir, on 19 January 2015 - 05:16 PM, said:

Allow me to clarify QQ's impression of Kurita as a whole... the DCMS is just not very organized. It is not in reference to your skill, but to the seemingly absent coordination of the entire faction's efforts.

I feel for your plight. You have lost many, many planets. In order to fight CSJ effectively, DCMS leadership (units) need to arrange for ceasefires and/or partnerships with the southern IS factions. You have peace with The FRR, but they have enough problems of their own vs the Clans to be of much assistance. YOU NEED MORE FRIENDS!

That is all...

Could someone expand on the 'organization' part? I see it said more than once, but I've had very little trouble finding organized groups here. Everyone keeps mentioning it but it feels like a placebo excuse at times. Leaders always are sitting on the HK teamspeak or have a representative to be contacted.

I'm the leader of an entirely new unit and have had no trouble getting in contact with multiple high command leaders, attending events, planned meetings, or CW groups. I don't mean any offense, but I feel like the 'Kurita isn't organized' explanation doesn't carry weight these days as much. It seems to be much more an issue of 'Kurita doesn't have active CW groups'.

Edited by Socop, 19 January 2015 - 05:27 PM.

[Chef Kerensky]

Socop, on 19 January 2015 - 05:27 PM, said:

Could someone expand on the 'organization' part? I see it said more than once, but I've had very little trouble finding organized groups here. Everyone keeps mentioning it but it feels like a placebo excuse at times. Leaders always are sitting on the HK teamspeak or have a representative to be contacted.

I'm the leader of an entirely new unit and have had no trouble getting in contact with multiple high command leaders, attending events, planned meetings, or CW groups. I don't mean any offense, but I feel like the 'Kurita isn't organized' explanation doesn't carry weight these days as much. It seems to be much more an issue of 'Kurita doesn't have active CW groups'.

Who better qualified to comment on the state of Kurita high command than a guy who's never spoken to them? I'm not really sure why anyone's asking the clanners for their opinions at this stage. Kurita currently has a shortage of manpower and is surrounded by more enemy factions than any other faction on the map except perhaps Steiner. We're in the process of addressing this. CW growing pains, if you will; nothing to make a big deal out of.

[Time Bandit]

Also to worthy to note:

THIS IS JUST A GAME!

[Jon Gotham]

SteelWarrior, on 19 January 2015 - 04:52 PM, said:

LOL. Bold sweeping claims

Yup. Thats us alright, the only organized unit in our entire faction, dropping 7 nights a week, from 7pm-2am for 3 weeks straight, while getting 0 assistance from anyone else, and im the ******* for pointing it out in a thread labelled "Weakest CW faction". Lol. Guess its ego to point out why the house is getting trashed so hard, right crock

Heres an idea Vlad, why dont you take your clan out of the stacked faction and come fight for HK, then you can be as annoyed with the situation i am.



On that note i am eager to see what can be done with 9th sword and NKVA fighting beside us. Heres to hoping the situation improves.

Many people I used to run with got tired of the huge wait times, heck in fact I've spent fully HALF my free time of an evening trying to get just one single game. They also don't like facing the clans very much, especially on Boreal with the clan range advantage etc.
Plus from what I have seen, Kurita lacks "comp" teams, most of the ones I have seen are casual units who simply aren't up for facing the metawall. Then add the fact your opponents can drop twice as often at the same time as you can and even if you win 100% of your games they still win. It's very demoralizing.

But you ARE making bold sweeping claims and ARE running your mouth that bit too much for proper decorum to be maintained. It's not making you look good, nor your fellows. Enough fella?

[Vlad Ward]

Socop, on 19 January 2015 - 05:27 PM, said:

Could someone expand on the 'organization' part? I see it said more than once, but I've had very little trouble finding organized groups here. Everyone keeps mentioning it but it feels like a placebo excuse at times. Leaders always are sitting on the HK teamspeak or have a representative to be contacted.

Planets aren't won on teamspeak. That pretty much sums it up. CSJ took Heinz ketchup from 0% to 100% only a couple hours after yesterday's ceasefire. It has sat at 100% all day, without any CSJ unit taking notice of an attempt to retake it.

Considering that planet's queue is still empty an hour before ceasefire, the only conclusions that can be drawn are either that Kurita hates planets or Kurita can't effectively mount a resistance, even when CSJ units aren't in the queue.

This is especially annoying for mercs currently aligned with CSJ because Kurita is literally one of two total attack lanes, with the other being CGB, and there's nothing for us to do but sit around and defend the wolves' planets for them if Kurita doesn't bring it.

Edited by Vlad Ward, 19 January 2015 - 07:30 PM.