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[RG Notch]

Rakshasa, on 20 January 2015 - 07:43 AM, said:

You should have stopped at "Logic". UrbanMech is not about logic, it's about fun and seeing something the community requested actually get implemented in-game, which bodes very well for the development of the PGI/MWO/playerbase relationship.

It's also about funding PGI's future endeavours - the money spent on UrbanMech will allow PGI to continue with other projects in the long run. Assuming you have any kind of emotional or financial investment in the game as a whole (and if you didn't, why would you complain?) you're welcome

So like I said, just really a donation and you get a mech that will be used until mastered and then rarely if ever see the light of day in real matches. PGI could save the trouble and simply ask for donations and save the trouble and effort of making the mech. If you want to support PGI you can buy lots of other things. As I said one way or the other we won't need to hear about this silly mech again and 2 weeks post drop it won't be seen again. PGI gets money without any P2W issues so go for it, I'm just honestly tired of the silliness associated with this worthless mech and will be glad to never hear about it again after the novelty wears off.

[Sarlic]

I will get a urbie pack if we get 12 vs 12 urbies.

[AlexEss]

Noooope... I have said from day on that it is junk in it´s stock config and while you might jazz it up... My Jenner will still be doing better.

I am thinking about plunking down on one of the rez packs. That at least give me some value beyond the mech.. And i will take the Panther over the Urbie any day.

[Joseph Mallan]

No matter how you dress it up...

[Mott]

Maccasimus, on 19 January 2015 - 07:38 PM, said:

1. Russ mentioned in town hall that large sale numbers of the Urbanmech would give serious weight to adding a 'stock mech' button in the 12 v 12 queue. (12 v 12 stock Urbie battles would be awesome was his reasoning if i remember correctly. Which they would)

2. One of the major issues with MWO which keeps being brought up is the steep learning curve for new players.

A stock mech queue would instantly reduce the steepness of said learning curve.

So come on everyone. Fork out $20 for the noobs. I mean who can't afford $20?

Bishop Steiner, on 19 January 2015 - 07:40 PM, said:

not to mention, it sets a precedent. It shows the community puts it's money where it's mouth is, and thusly, future ideas may be taken more seriously.

Especially after the disaster way the ECM opportunity devolved into petty bickering and politicking.

Eff off.

I buy mechs i like AND that will be effective. But i don't tell others what they NEED to buy.

Also, having spent a hair under $900 on this game in just one year i think i've done more than enough to show my support for it.

A POS mech for $20 does nothing... except get me a POS mech.

Edited by Mott, 20 January 2015 - 07:58 AM.

[kapusta11]

I'd pay to play in Jihad era with all the advanced tech.

Edited by kapusta11, 20 January 2015 - 08:04 AM.

[Metus regem]

Agent 0 Fortune, on 19 January 2015 - 07:51 PM, said:

That is ridiculous (even if true).
The Urban mech is the worst stock mech, for PGI to hang a flag on it means PGI doesn't understand the stock mech format.
Yes it is about playing the TT game in MWO, but even in TT the urbanmech was a joke.

I've used and had used against me Urbanmechs, when used outside of a city, yes they are slow, and woefully inadequate. Much like the Annihilator, or HBK-4G, plunk them into a city, where you cannot and do not want to move fast, and their 2/32 movement disability is largely ignored. You now have a mech with a big gun for its weight class that can do a lot of damage. Unlike MWO, 10 points (20 on the UM-R60L) to one location hurts, a lot. They are also dirt cheap, and if playing by BV or C-bills, you can crank up the pilot skill on them to make them devastating.

[Latorque]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 January 2015 - 07:40 PM, said:

not to mention, it sets a precedent. It shows the community puts it's money where it's mouth is, and thusly, future ideas may be taken more seriously.

Especially after the disaster way the ECM opportunity devolved into petty bickering and politicking.

This is the most important aspect of the whole thing (apart from the Urbie ) - and actually our best shot at influencing the game longterm in the way we want or pushing boundaries that seemed until now pretty far out of reach. PGI is a business - it doesn't mean that they don't care about the game or the lore; but they can hardly be expected to ignore their main footing.

In this case; the community called with astonishing stamina; PGI offers; and we say yay or nay with our money. I haven't bought a single pack until now - some heroes; but i never saw the reason for cockpit baubles or some kind of Airhorn and loads of mechs that PGI gives me for free a little time later. But for actions like this, PGI will definitly get the full 40 bucks from me.

Now get them to make a hostile takeover of Harmony Gold and PGI may well bleed me dry

[Pika]

kapusta11, on 20 January 2015 - 08:03 AM, said:

I'd pay to play in Jihad era with all the advanced tech.

No! D: You get out you bad bad man!

Could be worse though, you could have said Dark Age.

[SnowFox]

ALL OF THE CLICKY TECH BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Anyways sadism aside, I will probably buy the daft urby,


Sometimes interesting things happen with those useless mechs.........


This game is still cheaper then teh wowz's

Edited by SnowFox, 20 January 2015 - 08:26 AM.

[Lord Letto]

$20 or $40? and it's a Preorder like the packs correct? I think the Urbie would be a cool Mech to roll around in like the AC/10 or AC/20 Raven-4X. Urbie can still Use the AC like a boss, plus 360* Torso Twist to 360 No Scope in a Urbie. I'd be Interested in throwing down $20 (Plus Canadian-US Conversion Rate) on the Urbie.

[WarHippy]

Joseph Mallan, on 20 January 2015 - 03:18 AM, said:

$20 for a PoS.

Sorry I understand the joke of Urban Awesomeness, but its a PoS. If a Stock Mech button hinges on blackmail, I'd rather not have it.

I may have to buy you one just to spite you.

[kapusta11]

Pika, on 20 January 2015 - 08:10 AM, said:

No! D: You get out you bad bad man!

Could be worse though, you could have said Dark Age.

What's so bad about it?

[Bishop Steiner]

Joseph Mallan, on 20 January 2015 - 03:18 AM, said:

$20 for a PoS.

Sorry I understand the joke of Urban Awesomeness, but its a PoS. If a Stock Mech button hinges on blackmail, I'd rather not have it.

wow, the purveyor of all things TT is anti urbie.

A sad day indeed.

[AlmightyAeng]

Flaming oblivion, on 19 January 2015 - 08:13 PM, said:

Power creep P2w only start showing up in the F2P world when the games done .

On its last leg scraping in the last bits of revenue they can.

I will admit I don't think MWO is there.........Yet.

The way they implemented CW ontop of the recent challenges and the ongoing problems they've had for years and haven't fixed haven't helped them all steps in the wrong direction but theres still hope.

Didn't you quit for the 5th time, like, 2 weeks ago? If you're gonna go, stay gone man.

Joseph Mallan, on 20 January 2015 - 07:54 AM, said:

No matter how you dress it up...

Congrats. You've now spurred the Marik bacon-loving community to fund this idea, Joe.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mott, on 20 January 2015 - 07:57 AM, said:

Eff off.

I buy mechs i like AND that will be effective. But i don't tell others what they NEED to buy.

Also, having spent a hair under $900 on this game in just one year i think i've done more than enough to show my support for it.

A POS mech for $20 does nothing... except get me a POS mech.

well Motty, I couldn't give a leaking drizzle what you do.

I'm talking to those who specifically clamored for the Urbie over the last 2-3 years. It's time they put up or shut up.

But hey, keep acting the churl.

Ghost Badger, on 20 January 2015 - 09:14 AM, said:

Didn't you quit for the 5th time, like, 2 weeks ago? If you're gonna go, stay gone man.


Congrats. You've now spurred the Marik bacon-loving community to fund this idea, Joe.

Flaming Oblivious is too in need of attention to every truly go away..... unless people simply wise up and ignore him.

[Utilyan]

Joseph Mallan, on 20 January 2015 - 07:54 AM, said:

No matter how you dress it up...

[AlmightyAeng]

From the PGI urbanmech convo...it basically sounds like them saying;

"If the fanbois will pay for a mech that is, literally, terrible and a joke...it sounds like they'd REALLY fork it over for OTHER cannon/stock aspects. So...if this trashcan sells...heck...it'll prove to us that there IS money to be made on a stock queue and/or other cannon mechs, and we'll devote resources to it. Because, otherwise, we wouldn't take a chance and spend our resources developing this thing that may flop."

I've seen far worse marketing plans. They're putting out feelers on what the community finds valuable...so that they're not devoting resources to stuff "we" (and by "we" I mean a percentage of the community willing to pay money for stuff) want.

[General Taskeen]

We lobbied for some new modes, like stock mode, hoping it would be a public game option (there was some thread with a thousand or more votes), but if its true that its just for private that's a real let down for me.

Something different was needed to stir up the stale public queue, which is always the same. New players/casuals don't bother locating forum posts or TS groups for private matches, and since there is no UI in game for a player to simply 'view' lobbies it makes it more difficult than it needs to be. The game caters towards quick clicking the "launch" button hoping for a game. In the old MW days it was so much easier to set up all kinds of server options and play styles, including the simply check box "Stock Mode" and the server handled the rest as people joined.

Russ says "want to see 12v12 private urbie stock battle" (it sounds dismissive, although unintentionally?) and I'd rather he state, with confidence in the old franchise and the IP he has, "Yeah, I'd really like to see us bring back the classic modes and playstyles from the previous MW games and see 12v12 in the public matches with those to enhance our game, we want options for our player base. And also the UrbanMech was added by default in games like MPBT3025, MW2: Mercs, and MW4 MekPak 1, so its kind of a no brainer to add it for fans."

Edited by General Taskeen, 20 January 2015 - 09:21 AM.

[AlmightyAeng]

General Taskeen, on 20 January 2015 - 09:18 AM, said:

We lobbied for some new modes, like stock mode, hoping it would be a public game option, but if its true that its just for private that's a real let down for me.

Something different was needed to stir up the stale public queue, which is always the same. New players/casuals don't bother locating forum posts or TS groups for private matches, and since there is no UI in game for a player to simply 'view' lobbies it makes it more difficult than it needs to be. The game caters towards quick clicking the "launch" button hoping for a game. In the old MW days it was so much easier to set up all kinds of server options and play styles, including the simply check box "Stock Mode" and the server handled the rest as people joined.

Russ says "want to see 12v12 private urbie stock battle" (it sounds dismissive, although unintentionally?) and I'd rather he state, with confidence in the old franchise and the IP he has, "Yeah, I'd really like to see us bring back the classic modes and playstyles from the previous MW games and see 12v12 in the public matches with those to enhance our game, we want options for our player base. And also the UrbanMech was added by default in games like MPBT3025, MW2: Mercs, and MW4 MekPak 1, so its kind of a no brainer to add it for fans."

Cost/benefit analysis requires more research. Urbie offer equals research. They aren't flush enough to try everything for the sake of variety. What they work on needs to sell.