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[Keira RAVEN McKenna]

so my point still stands regardless of the pedantic details... the clans were constantly at odds with each other even during the invasion, to the point of bloodshed.

Its funny... its like you get hit by a car, the agrument is whether or not you were hit. so you are all arguing over the colour of the car, which is irrelevant to the core discussion... WERE you hit by a car.

In this case... DID the clans scrap amongst themselves during the invasion of the IS. The Answer is a resounding HELL YES THEY DID!!

SO claims of "were are only here to fight the IS and to get to Terra as a united team" are just plain rubbish. Any clan is fair game if the others feel the need to slap one about - currently thats the Wolves.

THATS what all this was about, not which clan was invading, which was watching, which was reserve...lol

Focus boys... focus.

Edited by Keira RAVEN McKenna, 02 February 2015 - 03:09 PM.

[Kenyon Burguess]

Era report 3052 backs up alot of the shady clan vrs dealings, thats the lore book everyone needs to be looking at. As an example of inter clan warfare. Barbara sennet sakhan of diamond shark took the world of nyserta from the ghost bears using the 369 strike cluster page 62. Now go fight ffs

[Vxheous]

Keira RAVEN McKenna, on 02 February 2015 - 03:04 PM, said:

so my point still stands regardless of the pedantic details... the clans were constantly at odds with each other even during the invasion, to the point of bloodshed.

Its funny... its like you get hit by a car, the agrument is whether or not you were hit. so you are all arguing over the colour of the car, which is irrelevant to the core discussion... WERE you hit by a car.

In this case... DID the clans scrap amongst themselves during the invasion of the IS. The Answer is a resounding HELL YES THEY DID!!

SO claims of "were are only here to fight the IS and to get to Terra as a united team" are just plain rubbish. Any clan is fair game if the others feel the need to slap one about - currently thats the Wolves.

THATS what all this was about, not which clan was invading, which was watching, which was reserve...lol

Focus boys... focus.

Neg, actually, they did not fight with each other. When the initial invasion corridors were assigned based on bidding, the original 4 invading clans stuck to their invasion corridors, and did not attack each other's planets, period. Those planets that resided between corridors (ie Rasalhague), the right to take the planet was won by bidding between the two clans, not by actual fighting.

When the new clans were activated, Ulric forced Falcon and Jaguar to essentially give up planets, or garrison planets TOGETHER, essentially taking honor away from both Falcon and Jaguar. He wanted them to bicker with each other and have to bid against each other (see above) for the rights to take planets. When the Clans attacked Luthien, both Smoke Jaguar and Nova Cats dropped at the same time. They did not work with each other, but they did not shoot at each other's backs either.

[Kain Demos]

Keira RAVEN McKenna, on 02 February 2015 - 03:04 PM, said:

so my point still stands regardless of the pedantic details... the clans were constantly at odds with each other even during the invasion, to the point of bloodshed.

Its funny... its like you get hit by a car, the agrument is whether or not you were hit. so you are all arguing over the colour of the car, which is irrelevant to the core discussion... WERE you hit by a car.

In this case... DID the clans scrap amongst themselves during the invasion of the IS. The Answer is a resounding HELL YES THEY DID!!

SO claims of "were are only here to fight the IS and to get to Terra as a united team" are just plain rubbish. Any clan is fair game if the others feel the need to slap one about - currently thats the Wolves.

THATS what all this was about, not which clan was invading, which was watching, which was reserve...lol

Focus boys... focus.

Who is slapping us around?

[Keira RAVEN McKenna]

Kain Thul, on 02 February 2015 - 03:38 PM, said:

Who is slapping us around?

At this point... anyone who wants too.

[Kain Demos]

Keira RAVEN McKenna, on 02 February 2015 - 03:53 PM, said:

At this point... anyone who wants too.

We only have one faction we are really fighting right now due to the ****** up algorithim and it appears to me we are gaining ground not losing it.

[Alexander Steel]

Sarna matches with my memory of this...

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During the Trials to determine the three Clans who would invade the IS with Clan Wolf, and the one Reserve Clan, Clan Nova Cat placed 5th, just behind Clan Steel Viper. The Nova Cats, along with the Diamond Sharks challenged the Grand Council to a Trial of Refusal. Their victory would ensure those two Clans would be next in line to invade, if deemed necessary. Additionally, it allowed a small contingent of Nova Cats to participate in minor actions during the initial invasion.

[Duvanor]

Keira RAVEN McKenna, on 02 February 2015 - 03:04 PM, said:

so my point still stands regardless of the pedantic details... the clans were constantly at odds with each other even during the invasion, to the point of bloodshed.

Its funny... its like you get hit by a car, the agrument is whether or not you were hit. so you are all arguing over the colour of the car, which is irrelevant to the core discussion... WERE you hit by a car.

In this case... DID the clans scrap amongst themselves during the invasion of the IS. The Answer is a resounding HELL YES THEY DID!!

SO claims of "were are only here to fight the IS and to get to Terra as a united team" are just plain rubbish. Any clan is fair game if the others feel the need to slap one about - currently thats the Wolves.

THATS what all this was about, not which clan was invading, which was watching, which was reserve...lol

Focus boys... focus.

Your reasoning is inaccurate. Operation Revival follows the model of Operation Klondike. Prior to the actual attack biddings took place and thus all participating Clans had predefined forces and targets.

During Operation Revival the Clans followed the ilKhan who acted as mediator between the Clans and most trials were suspended.

As for Geist Nulls remark: Nyserta is a Periphery world. Is it actually part of the assigned attack corridors?

[Keira RAVEN McKenna]

Duvanor, on 02 February 2015 - 04:08 PM, said:

Your reasoning is inaccurate. Operation Revival follows the model of Operation Klondike. Prior to the actual attack biddings took place and thus all participating Clans had predefined forces and targets.

During Operation Revival the Clans followed the ilKhan who acted as mediator between the Clans and most trials (BUT NOT ALL) were suspended.

As for Geist Nulls remark: Nyserta is a Periphery world. Is it actually part of the assigned attack corridors?

[Gyrok]

Keira RAVEN McKenna, on 02 February 2015 - 04:27 PM, said:

Honestly, once UIric took over as ilKhan, all trials were suspended among the invading clans, aside from minor rights that could be resolved by chain of command. A trial between CJF and CW or CGB and CSJ or what have you would not have been allowed as it was considered a distraction to the more pressing matter at hand.

[Duvanor]

True. Sadly we did not get the deep periphery to fight. The invasion corridors on the other hand should be focused solely on conquering the IS and taking Terra.

[Kain Demos]

Duvanor, on 02 February 2015 - 04:36 PM, said:

True. Sadly we did not get the deep periphery to fight. The invasion corridors on the other hand should be focused solely on conquering the IS and taking Terra.

Strange that PGI bothered to include Periphery worlds and Clan worlds in the game but no functionality. Saving it for later I guess.

[Duvanor]

Probably. If they really advance the time line we might get Operation Serpent and Bulldog somewhere down the line.

Edited by Duvanor, 02 February 2015 - 05:06 PM.

[Keira RAVEN McKenna]

hopefully the homeworld fighting too! Even though the Snake Alliance pretty much backhands all of us back home it'll still be exciting times.

... clearly... I'm having a slow day in the office!

Edited by Keira RAVEN McKenna, 02 February 2015 - 05:09 PM.

[Duvanor]

Wars of Reaving would be awesome. I hope to see one day my ATMs. And maybe as a Coyote get all the cool, BFG of the Scentist Society to wreak havoc in the homeworlds, give nearly every Clan the finger and survive in the end anyway.

[Noesis]

Duvanor, on 02 February 2015 - 05:14 PM, said:

Wars of Reaving would be awesome.

The Dark Caste get a much more significant recognition and powerbase during this period.

Otherwise if you do want to consider Reaving in general a little earlier than the above, you can join the Dark Born now.

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What I do find more hilarious however is that the current MWO direction has probably caused more loyalist units in the Clans to attack each other over petty reasons that the Dark Born are now appearing to be more honourable in terms of actions than the vast majority of Wolf and some other units.

This with the idea that we may not hire some Wolf pilots due to their overqualified represented dezgra status that exceeds any current Dark Born achievement in this area to date.

Edited by Noesis, 02 February 2015 - 07:19 PM.

[operatorZ]

Noesis, on 02 February 2015 - 07:14 PM, said:

The Dark Caste get a much more significant recognition and powerbase during this period.

Otherwise if you do want to consider Reaving in general a little earlier than the above, you can join the Dark Born now.

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What I do find more hilarious however is that the current MWO direction has probably caused more loyalist units in the Clans to attack each other over petty reasons that the Dark Born are now appearing to be more honourable in terms of actions than the vast majority of Wolf and some other units.

This with the idea that we may not hire some Wolf pilots due to their overqualified represented dezgra status that exceeds any current Dark Born achievement in this area to date.

You said it brother, Clan Wolf ....better at doing what you do before you do it...

[lpmagic]

Noesis, on 02 February 2015 - 07:14 PM, said:

The Dark Caste get a much more significant recognition and powerbase during this period.

Otherwise if you do want to consider Reaving in general a little earlier than the above, you can join the Dark Born now.

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What I do find more hilarious however is that the current MWO direction has probably caused more loyalist units in the Clans to attack each other over petty reasons that the Dark Born are now appearing to be more honourable in terms of actions than the vast majority of Wolf and some other units.

This with the idea that we may not hire some Wolf pilots due to their overqualified represented dezgra status that exceeds any current Dark Born achievement in this area to date.

LOL Noesis......WTF you talking about? lol. I'm pretty sure no one (even fellow bears) will really want to be hired by your nebulousness, this is like a poorly written B movie screenplay. LMAO!

[Noesis]

lpmagic, on 03 February 2015 - 08:54 AM, said:

LOL Noesis......WTF you talking about? lol. I'm pretty sure no one (even fellow bears) will really want to be hired by your nebulousness, this is like a poorly written B movie screenplay. LMAO!

I'm sure as you say that our more niche and unique perspective of MWO may not appeal to everyone. But the point was made just to indicate the irony that there are players demonstrating worse behaviour than the representative Dark Caste coming from the supposed "honour" concerned Warrior Caste of the Clans.

Edited by Noesis, 03 February 2015 - 08:59 AM.

[lpmagic]

Again, leaving out the obvious, and not pointing to anything. Exactly what do you mean? examples would be nice. If you wish to take a swipe, once again, please be magnanimous enough to share what it is your referring to? Obviously no names but situational would be nice. You see, I tire of relentless trolling, so I won't enter in to any real conversation, however, if your going to continue to troll, at least be forthcoming with some info that is germane to the situation you are pointing out. Unless wolf is in your forum unconditionally trolling, daily, I don't see your meaning.