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[MischiefSC]

We'll see. Maybe 4x4 or 8x8 will help. A lot of options. Tons of perks to being house units. Changing to only 1 world per border per day (3 a day was always a bad idea). Gives factions time to swing the pendulum. Reduces the impact of large pop swings.

Still... At this point I would be game with sweeping changes I would not have before. I took big groups at their word. I hate playing uneven matches, wanted to think others would look for the same. Events have proven me wrong so protections for the community need to be in place.

[Roadbeer]

N0MAD, on 29 January 2015 - 04:31 PM, said:

I fear you are hearing the Fat Lady warm up..

50 days, still no faction tag

This my dear readers, is the definition of a pseudo intellectual.

[N0MAD]

Roadbeer, on 29 January 2015 - 04:43 PM, said:

50 days, still no faction tag

This my dear readers, is the definition of a pseudo intellectual.

Still the sad little angry man with nothing but insults, for what 3 years now?
So what has me not wearing a unit tag have to do with anything apart from activating your anger and trolling?

[wanderer]

It's fairly simple.

This isn't the pubbie queue. Your opponents are whoever's on-world. If you're PUGing on a Kurita world that's being hit by Clan forces?

Leave it. Kurita's organized efforts are aimed at Davion, and the all-factions PUGgy trough is there simply for the Clan forces to fatten up their resources killing without cease and with ease. Attack a Davion world or fight in the public queue instead.

[Roadbeer]

N0MAD, on 29 January 2015 - 04:55 PM, said:

Still the sad little angry man with nothing but insults, for what 3 years now?
So what has me not wearing a unit tag have to do with anything apart from activating your anger and trolling?

Because it proves you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about when it comes to CW.

DERP!

[N0MAD]

Roadbeer, on 29 January 2015 - 05:01 PM, said:

Because it proves you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about when it comes to CW.

DERP!

And what did i say about CW? again got to go back to that reading comprehension we talked about, well rather the lack of it hence the anger..
Did you really say DERP?

Look boy if you want to get into a pissing competition with me you got to learn not to squat when you take a pee.

Edited by N0MAD, 29 January 2015 - 05:07 PM.

[Odins Fist]

N0MAD, on 29 January 2015 - 04:55 PM, said:

Still the sad little angry man with nothing but insults, for what 3 years now?
So what has me not wearing a unit tag have to do with anything apart from activating your anger and trolling?

Have you even CW'd yet..??

[N0MAD]

Odins Fist, on 29 January 2015 - 05:11 PM, said:

Have you even CW'd yet..??

What for?

[Odins Fist]

N0MAD, on 29 January 2015 - 05:12 PM, said:

What for?

Uh, you're in a COMMUNITY WARFARE thread posting opinions..??

It was an honest question there Sport.

[Triordinant]

MischiefSC, on 29 January 2015 - 03:30 PM, said:

I hate to say this, I do, but -

CW proved one thing very clearly.

Most the big groups absolutely do NOT, and have NEVER, wanted good competitive games. Some teams do; most are mid sized and house units. They play all comers and work to get good matches.

A number of big groups though have actually worked to make sure they don't play other competitive teams near their own size. In fact the preference seems to be teaming up against IS pugs on the Clan border. Literally they have gravitated to an environment that most closely simulates playing in a 12man against pugs in trial mechs.

I've argued often that such wasn't the case but now that all the cards are on the table....

Yeah. A lot of groups work to avoid playing anyone close to their own skill and seek out the easiest matches they can.

Maybe we do need split queues and Elo in cw. I dunno. I am way more open to those ideas than I was.

Every time I mentioned "the people no one wants to play with" in the past 18 months, I was referring to those guys. It's nice to know the so-called "Premade Boogeyman" of old wasn't a boogeyman at all.

[Yokaiko]

MischiefSC, on 29 January 2015 - 04:17 PM, said:

League play is great. There are a lot of other games getting played. There are a lot of big teams taking careful steps to avoid each other and farm the easiest money they can. CW currently allows the sort of farming, in fact hugely rewards the farming, that Elo and the queue split was created to avoid. Any claims that it was a matter of 'boredom' or 'long waits' or other excuses before hold no water here. Given the chance they are taking the easiest fights they can.

So you either wait for cw to die or you find means to disincent that behavior.

Yeah, so if they were farming money they would be in the public queue

.....just saying

[Roadbeer]

Odins Fist, on 29 January 2015 - 05:11 PM, said:

Have you even CW'd yet..??

The answer is no, he hasn't, just a fail troll.

[Triordinant]

MischiefSC, on 29 January 2015 - 04:42 PM, said:

We'll see. Maybe 4x4 or 8x8 will help. A lot of options. Tons of perks to being house units. Changing to only 1 world per border per day (3 a day was always a bad idea). Gives factions time to swing the pendulum. Reduces the impact of large pop swings.

Still... At this point I would be game with sweeping changes I would not have before. I took big groups at their word. I hate playing uneven matches, wanted to think others would look for the same. Events have proven me wrong so protections for the community need to be in place.

Maybe a Unit Block List? When you drop, you're guaranteed to never drop against the Units on your list.

[N0MAD]

Odins Fist, on 29 January 2015 - 05:13 PM, said:

Uh, you're in a COMMUNITY WARFARE thread posting opinions..??

It was an honest question there Sport.

No opinion posted just a remark to Mischief, but i do get a kick out of Roadbeers anger.
In answer to your honest Question, how many people do you think have more than one account?
But because you asked and werent rude about it, yes i have.

[MischiefSC]

Yokaiko, on 29 January 2015 - 05:16 PM, said:

Yeah, so if they were farming money they would be in the public queue

.....just saying

You don't make 800k+ in 20 minutes in group queue. Not consistently. Playing group against is pugs on clan border is 100% wins. No Elo, no risk.

[N0MAD]

MischiefSC, on 29 January 2015 - 05:37 PM, said:

You don't make 800k+ in 20 minutes in group queue. Not consistently. Playing group against is pugs on clan border is 100% wins. No Elo, no risk.

Playing organised group in any Q vs pugs is a win bro.

[Triordinant]

MischiefSC, on 29 January 2015 - 05:37 PM, said:

You don't make 800k+ in 20 minutes in group queue. Not consistently. Playing group against is pugs on clan border is 100% wins. No Elo, no risk.

Fun and profit at the expense of others has been called a form of psychopathy...

[Yokaiko]

MischiefSC, on 29 January 2015 - 05:37 PM, said:

You don't make 800k+ in 20 minutes in group queue. Not consistently. Playing group against is pugs on clan border is 100% wins. No Elo, no risk.

You don't make 800k in 20 minutes in CW either, maybe 600, and that takes about 45 minutes couting queue times.

[MischiefSC]

N0MAD, on 29 January 2015 - 05:47 PM, said:

Playing organised group in any Q vs pugs is a win bro.

Group queue isn't as consistent for wins.

Yokaiko, on 29 January 2015 - 06:49 PM, said:

You don't make 800k in 20 minutes in CW either, maybe 600, and that takes about 45 minutes couting queue times.

You have waits to get people into group queue too. Not quite the same but close. If you can't farm better in CW than you can in group queue (with Elo and matching) I don't know what to tell you. Even losing I can farm more money more quickly pugging on Clan border than I can in group or pug queue. Even on a loss, 3-8 kills, 1000-2500 damage, almost every match. Winning consistently on top of it just rains money.

[N0MAD]

People are mistaken if they think that purely money rewards are going to make a big difference to the majority of Pugs playing CW or not.