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#1 skorpionet

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 08:11 AM

Period.

#2 Lord Ikka

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 08:18 AM

CW doesn't need pugs per se, just more players in general. Faction chat will help gather pugs but CW is a team sport, much more than public queue.

#3 Lily from animove

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 08:21 AM

Pugs need to stop pugging.

seriously, after PGI made grouping factionwide there is no reason to not downlaod teamspeak or any other used Voip, and at leats join it to be able to listen to a leaders orders. You don't need a mic, just being able to hear is enough.

Edited by Lily from animove, 29 January 2015 - 08:21 AM.


#4 Jacob Side

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 09:21 AM

^^^^ This x10000000000000000000000000000000

#5 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 09:23 AM

View Postskorpionet, on 29 January 2015 - 08:11 AM, said:

Period.

I'm sorry? Did I give you permission to speak for me? :huh:

#6 Snoopy

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 09:27 AM

View PostLily from animove, on 29 January 2015 - 08:21 AM, said:

Pugs need to stop pugging.

seriously, after PGI made grouping factionwide there is no reason to not downlaod teamspeak or any other used Voip, and at leats join it to be able to listen to a leaders orders. You don't need a mic, just being able to hear is enough.


I thought it was "same faction in your friendlist". But I may be wrong ...

#7 skorpionet

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 09:33 AM

View PostLily from animove, on 29 January 2015 - 08:21 AM, said:

Pugs need to stop pugging.

seriously, after PGI made grouping factionwide there is no reason to not downlaod teamspeak or any other used Voip, and at leats join it to be able to listen to a leaders orders. You don't need a mic, just being able to hear is enough.


Then if avoid PUG is the only way to play it's the time that you and your "team" will play versus nothing. Really fun!

#8 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 09:48 AM

View Postskorpionet, on 29 January 2015 - 09:33 AM, said:


Then if avoid PUG is the only way to play it's the time that you and your "team" will play versus nothing. Really fun!

Every time you go and PUG... you join a team. Comms will (supposedly) be added in Feb. What will your excuse be that you keep losing ot a 12 man team when you are a 12 man team?

#9 Kdogg788

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 09:51 AM

12s will always have a material advantage as they can synchronize their decks and strategy prior to the match and over a succession of matches.

-k

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 09:52 AM

Until you make it worth my while, this PUG is staying in the PUG queue, raking in the cash. Conquering the planet Poopendorf or whatever is way low in my list of priorities.

#11 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 09:53 AM

View PostMajor Tryhard, on 29 January 2015 - 09:52 AM, said:

Until you make it worth my while, this PUG is staying in the PUG queue, raking in the cash. Conquering the planet Poopendorf or whatever is way low in my list of priorities.

At least you are honest.

#12 Legal Insurrection

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 09:59 AM

eventually us pugs will get bored of making 1/3 the amount of creds in triple the amount of time it takes in a pub - non cw match just to be food for the other team. Their sighting will dissipate over time.

Edited by Legal Insurrection, 29 January 2015 - 09:59 AM.


#13 cranect

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 09:59 AM

View PostMajor Tryhard, on 29 January 2015 - 09:52 AM, said:

Until you make it worth my while, this PUG is staying in the PUG queue, raking in the cash. Conquering the planet Poopendorf or whatever is way low in my list of priorities.

There is honestly nothing wrong with that. If you realize that you don't want to listen to someone calling the shots or just dont want to do CW that is perfectly fine.

#14 Mcgral18

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 10:17 AM

I feel I have the opposite opinion; I have no intention of PUGging, since I prefer to have a minimum level of competence in my drops. PUGs can't consistently offer that.


The normal PUG queue is bad enough, while CW can make it worse. Now, I won't go as far to say PUGs shouldn't be allowed to play, but they occasionally do more harm than good, barely offering more resistance than a ghost drop. XL, Gauss Rifle Atlai come to mind. I've seen far too many of those.

Edited by Mcgral18, 29 January 2015 - 11:13 AM.


#15 asdbnmrty

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 10:20 AM

CW needs more players? I wonder why no one is playing it. Maybe it's because Attackers completely ignore Defending mechs, run past them, and shoot at Generators. Defenders chicken shoot attacking mechs who don't fight back... but wait just shoot the legs nothing else!

PUG or Premade, doesn't matter because that's what you do in CW... in a mech combat game. I'm not playing CW because the attack/defend mode is stupid as hell. It's great that there are objectives, but this is seriously how we interact with them? Seriously?

VOIP, yeah right voice chat doesn't do **** like people think. I know you're all imagining:
"Tangos inbound 10 o'clock, 1200 meters"
"Targeting, we got a Atlas AC20, Catapult Dual Gauss, Jenner 6 med... He's flanking!"
"I got him, got him. Delta moving behind hill... I got missile lock!"
"All units focus Delta... He's lost him leg... We got him Delta down, repeat Delta down"
"There all over me I need back up here!"
"Alpha Lance swing behind the ridge and provide supressive fire, cover our Assaults"
"They are retreating"
"Woo good job boys, this planet is ours!"

But this is what actually happens on voice chat:
*Bruuup* "Been drinkin' all night"
"Gotta go feed cat, be AFK 5 min"
"Everybody group up here" (Where the **** is this guy talking about)
"There's 2 mechs over in E7, watch out" (That's ****** E8, not E7. And those were Spiders, they are long gone, why bother reporting that)
"There they are, everyone focus the Timberwolf" (Which ******* Timberwolf, there are 3... what about that ****** Direwolf over there... or that EMC Kit Fox)
"Bravo, Targeting Bravo, focus!" (He ******* already ran behind cover)
"Delta is in the open, focus fire!" (That's ******* obvious, he's the only mech to shoot at)
"Deploy UAV" (I already did... 10 seconds ago)
"That Kit Fox has ECM!" (No ******* duh, I can't target anything, it's really obvious the Kit Fox has it.,, and it's expect"
"My CT is exposed" (Yeah I can tell by your half mangled mech chassis)
"OMG clans OP"
"Why they nerf my weapon"
"HEY GUYS GO PREORDER THE URBANMECH LOLOLOLOLOLOLO ONLY $40 FOR A TRASHCAN THAT THEY DIDN'T RELEASE SPECS FOR"

There, that's what voice chat does, a bunch of nothing. Just add a charge area nav point and a designated priority target to the targeting system with a different graphic. That's all we need. An no don't make us use the ****** battle grid that removes us form the fight, incorporate it into the HUD.

#16 Davers

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 10:22 AM

View PostKdogg788, on 29 January 2015 - 09:51 AM, said:

12s will always have a material advantage as they can synchronize their decks and strategy prior to the match and over a succession of matches.

-k

Then there is always the solo queue for you. Nothing wrong with that either. I play WoT and never bothered to join a unit or do CW over there. More than happy playing around with my low tier tanks too- no pressure to grind away to get top tier, just having fun drops.

#17 AlmightyAeng

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 10:55 AM

View Postskorpionet, on 29 January 2015 - 08:11 AM, said:

Period.


This statement...is redundant. Hehehe.

#18 Saint Scarlett Johan

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 11:08 AM

Since there is no Elo in CW, everything I've ever said about Elo I took back.

I've actually met the Underhive now. I've met the players that are incapable of landing 100 damage with 4 mechs that weren't trials. Some of said builds that may have been good in the Public Queue were the Elo spared them from good builds, but in CW? No such thing as many have noticed.

Also, ThunderRuns and StormConga Lines are boring.

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 11:11 AM

View PostLord Scarlett Johan, on 29 January 2015 - 11:08 AM, said:

Also, ThunderRuns and StormConga Lines are boring.


Don't forget WolfShuffles and LightSkips.

#20 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 11:18 AM

View PostGhost Badger, on 29 January 2015 - 11:11 AM, said:


Don't forget LightSkips.
Trust me if you are a 6'2" burly guy... Lightskips are anything but boring! :lol:


Specially to the observers!

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 29 January 2015 - 11:18 AM.






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