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#101 Czarr

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Posted 01 February 2015 - 08:39 PM

View PostAresye, on 01 February 2015 - 08:33 PM, said:


Haha, what attack lane into Steiner?


the one that was closed off by JF and CGB forcing you guys to fight the clans, but they'll keep on writing they are doing what's best for wolf to lower your guard a bit

it's so stupid too why can't a clan wolf jumpship fly through territory owned by JF or CGB, makes no sense and just shows you the lack of planning for CW

Edited by Czarr, 01 February 2015 - 08:40 PM.


#102 Lukoi Banacek

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Posted 01 February 2015 - 08:40 PM

View PostCzarr, on 01 February 2015 - 08:04 PM, said:


Smoke adders have never been in an IS contract that is a lie


Actually, that's true that Smoke Adders have been permcon with CSJ for quite some time. However...we have other units (2 actually) played by the same people. So, no it's not a lie that we took a planet in IS-Trial Mechs once before already.

#103 Kain Demos

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Posted 01 February 2015 - 08:44 PM

View PostCzarr, on 01 February 2015 - 08:39 PM, said:


the one that was closed off by JF and CGB forcing you guys to fight the clans, but they'll keep on writing they are doing what's best for wolf to lower your guard a bit

it's so stupid too why can't a clan wolf jumpship fly through territory owned by JF or CGB, makes no sense and just shows you the lack of planning for CW


The dumb thing is we have had a border with Steiner for DAYS and while they have always been able to attack us we have yet to be able to attack them. This along with the CJF wormhole into the middle of FRR territory is what effectively cut us off. I can not remember the last time we were able to attack an IS planet....it was early in the week sometime.

Edited by Kain Thul, 01 February 2015 - 08:53 PM.


#104 Davers

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Posted 01 February 2015 - 08:46 PM

View PostCzarr, on 01 February 2015 - 08:39 PM, said:


the one that was closed off by JF and CGB forcing you guys to fight the clans, but they'll keep on writing they are doing what's best for wolf to lower your guard a bit

it's so stupid too why can't a clan wolf jumpship fly through territory owned by JF or CGB, makes no sense and just shows you the lack of planning for CW

I think most of the testing for CW is the algorithm.

#105 JadeTimberwolf

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Posted 01 February 2015 - 08:49 PM

View PostCzarr, on 01 February 2015 - 08:39 PM, said:


the one that was closed off by JF and CGB forcing you guys to fight the clans, but they'll keep on writing they are doing what's best for wolf to lower your guard a bit

it's so stupid too why can't a clan wolf jumpship fly through territory owned by JF or CGB, makes no sense and just shows you the lack of planning for CW


The problem with this is, we CJF never actually cut Wolf off, the algorithm gave us a jump into FRR space leaving FRR planets between us and the FRR planets we took that we left for Wolf to take. There is a spot for Wolf to attack Steiner however the algorithm has denied Wolf a chance to attack those planets.

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Posted 01 February 2015 - 09:02 PM

View PostLucy Lui, on 01 February 2015 - 08:26 PM, said:

From Antonius Rex original post "[color=#959595]MS truly does understand the ****** map algorithm. And I believe we are willing to work with Wolf to open up lanes that will allow us to work together the way we were meant to be."[/color]





So what is it Rex, you realized that you honestly dont have a freaking clue what your talking about? Everyone else around here already knows that. Hope to see your scared ass soon on the battle field. Ohh, and we will scrim your bafoons anytime.


well i would say he knows CW better then the long dead Lords

#107 Gyrok

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Posted 01 February 2015 - 10:32 PM

View PostJaroth Corbett, on 01 February 2015 - 07:43 PM, said:


Do not give me that. They spelled out what happened when they tried to talk to you. If you do not sack up & take responsibility I see no reason to try to have any kind of discourse with you in the future. WE SAW THE GOD DAMN THING! IT WAS HERE IN BLACK & WHITE!


I AM TELLING YOU THAT THE CONVERSATION WE HAD WENT MUCH DIFFERENTLY THAN WAS POSTED. THEREFORE I WISH I HAD TS LOGS FOR PRIVATE MESSAGES SO I COULD POST THEM AND DISPROVE THE BS.

#108 Vassago Rain

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Posted 01 February 2015 - 10:39 PM

View PostGyrok, on 01 February 2015 - 10:32 PM, said:


I AM TELLING YOU THAT THE CONVERSATION WE HAD WENT MUCH DIFFERENTLY THAN WAS POSTED. THEREFORE I WISH I HAD TS LOGS FOR PRIVATE MESSAGES SO I COULD POST THEM AND DISPROVE THE BS.


You seem slightly upset, wuff khan-sempai.

#109 Gyrok

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Posted 01 February 2015 - 10:41 PM

View PostVassago Rain, on 01 February 2015 - 10:39 PM, said:


You seem slightly upset, wuff khan-sempai.


Responding to a known troll in same tone. Nothing more.

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Posted 01 February 2015 - 10:42 PM

View PostJadeTimberwolf, on 01 February 2015 - 08:49 PM, said:


The problem with this is, we CJF never actually cut Wolf off, the algorithm gave us a jump into FRR space leaving FRR planets between us and the FRR planets we took that we left for Wolf to take. There is a spot for Wolf to attack Steiner however the algorithm has denied Wolf a chance to attack those planets.


Yeah, I don't think CJF was making an aggressive decision when they took that opportunity. There were still plenty of planets for us to go around their territory. But it never gave them to us, until all of the planets were gone. And we've had a clear border with Steiner, but the game doesn't recognize it exists...

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Posted 01 February 2015 - 11:14 PM

View PostKnightcrawler, on 01 February 2015 - 10:42 PM, said:


Yeah, I don't think CJF was making an aggressive decision when they took that opportunity. There were still plenty of planets for us to go around their territory. But it never gave them to us, until all of the planets were gone. And we've had a clear border with Steiner, but the game doesn't recognize it exists...


Which I feel is a major problem, the fact it hasn't recognized the border you have with Steiner. With any luck the next patch will fix that issue without screwing something else up.

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Posted 01 February 2015 - 11:42 PM

Assuming we still have a border by then.

#113 Dawnstealer

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Posted 01 February 2015 - 11:52 PM

View PostJadeTimberwolf, on 01 February 2015 - 08:49 PM, said:


The problem with this is, we CJF never actually cut Wolf off, the algorithm gave us a jump into FRR space leaving FRR planets between us and the FRR planets we took that we left for Wolf to take. There is a spot for Wolf to attack Steiner however the algorithm has denied Wolf a chance to attack those planets.

Yeah, that algorithm is another bizarre construct of CW. You should just be able to click a world that borders your system and be able to drop there. It would be way more tactical than "You can only attack this one world, and even though you're Clan, and your goal is to get to Terra, we're going to send you waaaaaaaaay over here instead."

#114 Davers

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 12:34 AM

View PostDawnstealer, on 01 February 2015 - 11:52 PM, said:

Yeah, that algorithm is another bizarre construct of CW. You should just be able to click a world that borders your system and be able to drop there. It would be way more tactical than "You can only attack this one world, and even though you're Clan, and your goal is to get to Terra, we're going to send you waaaaaaaaay over here instead."

If everyone could click on whatever world they wanted on their border, then the biggest factions would be taking 30 worlds a day from smaller factions.

#115 JadeTimberwolf

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 02:04 AM

View PostKnightcrawler, on 01 February 2015 - 11:42 PM, said:

Assuming we still have a border by then.


At the moment no worries about that from CJF our targets in steiner space lately have been deeper into it than that area.

View PostDawnstealer, on 01 February 2015 - 11:52 PM, said:

Yeah, that algorithm is another bizarre construct of CW. You should just be able to click a world that borders your system and be able to drop there. It would be way more tactical than "You can only attack this one world, and even though you're Clan, and your goal is to get to Terra, we're going to send you waaaaaaaaay over here instead."


As nice as that would be I have to agree with Davers it would open it up to where huge groups such as say MercStar, one of the largest units I know of, could end taking so many planets because of how big they are that smaller factions would be all but annihilated within a few days.

Edited by JadeTimberwolf, 02 February 2015 - 02:05 AM.


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Posted 02 February 2015 - 02:56 AM

View PostKnightcrawler, on 01 February 2015 - 11:42 PM, said:

Assuming we still have a border by then.

hopefully not, then we can get on with the REAL war Wardens Vs Crusaders!

#117 Jaroth Corbett

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 03:56 AM

View PostGyrok, on 01 February 2015 - 10:41 PM, said:


Responding to a known troll in same tone. Nothing more.


Troll? I am a troll now? I never trolled anyone since I signed up for this thing. Your OWN people acknowledged what you did. There is nothing to disprove. They begged not to be condemned by YOUR **** up. Now because you CHOOSE not to accept responsibility for your actions, I am a troll? You are ignored.

I bid you good day sir.

#118 Gyrok

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 05:51 AM

View PostJaroth Corbett, on 02 February 2015 - 03:56 AM, said:


Troll? I am a troll now? I never trolled anyone since I signed up for this thing. Your OWN people acknowledged what you did. There is nothing to disprove. They begged not to be condemned by YOUR **** up. Now because you CHOOSE not to accept responsibility for your actions, I am a troll? You are ignored.

I bid you good day sir.


You are trolling me now, and if you are saying CWI acknowledged it...well, they do not know what happened and want peace at any cost. While the rest of Wolf is not so naive.

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 06:42 AM

View PostGyrok, on 01 February 2015 - 10:32 PM, said:



I AM TELLING YOU THAT THE CONVERSATION WE HAD WENT MUCH DIFFERENTLY THAN WAS POSTED. THEREFORE I WISH I HAD TS LOGS FOR PRIVATE MESSAGES SO I COULD POST THEM AND DISPROVE THE BS.


Hulk SMASH!

#120 Alexander Steel

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 06:47 AM

View PostGyrok, on 01 February 2015 - 10:41 PM, said:



Responding to a known troll in same tone. Nothing more.


Really? I've had some back and forths with Jaroth Corbett in another thread and he seems to be very knowledgeable about the Lore, and willing to listen to others when they explain their point of view. Pretty much the exact opposite of a troll.





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