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[Joseph Mallan]

Bloodweaver, on 20 February 2015 - 10:05 PM, said:

You cannot "assume" they're a DC, because they STILL HAVE A PING. You don't get to make incorrect assumptions when the PROOF of them being incorrect, is right in front of you. What you are talking about is an AFK, not a DC, and you know it - just can't bring yourself to admit to ratting out AFKs, why is that? Because you know it's wrong? I doubt that it's really because you don't know the difference, but that IS the only other possibility.

I can assume what I want to. If I am wrong the aggrieved can then turn me in to PGI. Thats how it works.

[Kristov Kerensky]

Bloodweaver, on 20 February 2015 - 10:05 PM, said:

You cannot "assume" they're a DC, because they STILL HAVE A PING. You don't get to make incorrect assumptions when the PROOF of them being incorrect, is right in front of you. What you are talking about is an AFK, not a DC, and you know it - just can't bring yourself to admit to ratting out AFKs, why is that? Because you know it's wrong? I doubt that it's really because you don't know the difference, but that IS the only other possibility.

Actually, you can't assume they have a real ping. I had a player on my team drop in my lance, right in front of me. He moved, took Company Command and kept moving. I went around him and followed the lance, he was following. Game goes on, we get killed, 2 enemy left and him, in a Mad Dog, LRM setup. He's sitting in a good hidden firing position, he's not moving, and I see he has a ping and a score, still CC. Enemy can't find him, after 2 mins people on my team in team chat say we should give out his coords, he's a DC. I say he's not, he's got a ping. Seems he actually had a 0 ping, my UI just wasn't showing it, it was updating everyone else's ping, not his. I screenshot it just in case they were trying to pull one. End game screen, 0 ping showed up on my screen. Sometimes, we aren't seeing what we should be, it's not ours to convict, it's ours to report for investigation AFTER the round ends, not before anything has actually been or not been done.

[Kjudoon]

Washing my hands of this legalist fecalfest.

Impossible.

report what you think is wrong, let the mods do the rest since you won't listen to reason.

[Sembrin]

Slepnir, on 16 February 2015 - 05:33 PM, said:

Bingo, Jman you are the one who will get reported and punished, they do enforce the rules despite what you might think. I suspect I have assisted quite a few players taking a short unintentional vacation from the game. I report team treason every time even if it is on the enemy team.

I give away the player location of sore losers all the time. As long as you are trying (in whatever way you can), or simply hiding to run down the clock for a win - more power to you. Otherwise, too bad. Feel free to report this post where I admit in public I do this. If they want to lose players over this, I volunteer. But frankly I think you're full of it /shrug

[WarZ]

Sembrin, on 07 March 2015 - 10:28 PM, said:

I give away the player location of sore losers all the time. As long as you are trying (in whatever way you can), or simply hiding to run down the clock for a win - more power to you. Otherwise, too bad. Feel free to report this post where I admit in public I do this. If they want to lose players over this, I volunteer. But frankly I think you're full of it /shrug

You are still a d*** for doing it.

[Sembrin]

Nope, but you're one for defending whiny crybabies acting like, well, whiny crybabies.

[Sorbic]

It's pretty rare that I see people posting the location of a player who's actually playing. The vast majority of the time it's when said player is just griefing/being dumb. If you're still on the move trying to get in on a fight then folks shouldn't report you. If you're just trying to be a penis or preserve your pointless K/D ratio than I wish your mech would light up like a flare.

[WarZ]

Sembrin, on 07 March 2015 - 11:11 PM, said:

Nope, but you're one for defending whiny crybabies acting like, well, whiny crybabies.

Again ... You are still a d*** for doing it.

[That Dawg]

Last night, we got rolled. Happens.
We are down to two players, one still doing his best. (terra therma)
I hop into the pit of the other player. NO weapons, and he's headed for no mans land.
I watch thinking he is going to suicide (also taking note of his coordinates) and lo' he shutsdown.
7 minutes left.
I called him on it, asked what he was planning sitting there in D7 or whatever it was. When I did that he powered up and said something about making them pay....luckily he shutdown again in a lava flow and overheated/died...what a maroon

[Lightfoot]

My two cents. If you lose your mech and can't wait for the match to end then just level two mechs and jump to your hangered mech when you lose the other in a match. I just ignore my team-mates who have lost their mechs if they are not helping. There is always the 'Exit match?' button for their use.

By the way, I was in a match where we were losing and were down to a single ECM Cicada with two ER Large, was the Comstar Uplink map, and that Cicada won the game. It took awhile, but on that occasion no one said "just give up, waaagggh!". Most of us watched.

Edited by Lightfoot, 08 March 2015 - 06:35 AM.

[Alienized]

what i seen lately is that people from the enemy team ask if the last remaining guy is active or inactive.
i usually try to kill one or 2 damaged enemy mechs when im the last man standing.
that means i have to find ways and paths to get them isolated which can take time.
some people dont understand that.
for gods sake i got legged once in my huginn and should have chased enemy assaults... i simply waited shutdown at a junction for an opportunity but my position got called out altho it was assault-mode on terra therma.
even if the enemy knew my position it was still faster to cap than moving to me and kill me and thats what they done anyway BUT i even said that im legged in all chat and i cant keep up with them while beeing on the other side of the map.

i might have gotten a kill at all if some unwary enemy moved past me but people just act like bad losers just because they cant see the obvious and deny someone a kill they didnt get because of terrible teamplay.
no need to say that my team got stomped and it was all the huginns fault that had 2 solo kills eh?

[FireDog]

MW4 solved this problem by letting the players vote off the procrastinating, selfish players. And no kidding, it petty much worked out well. If a player was still in the game no one bothered to go though the voting process.... Only the really offending players got booted. Then again even if the last mech standing was stripped and weaponless, the mech's pilot was still a threat and could take out a heavily damaged mech(s) by ramming, ejecting and blowing the reactor. Those mad suicide runs toward the "winning team" were sometimes worth looking forward too.

[TB Freelancer]

Rushin Roulette, on 01 February 2015 - 02:16 AM, said:

This is not a punishable offence. Even if the last mech runs off to a random corner and shuts down.
As long as the "offending" player participated during a fight and dealt any form of damage to the enemy team, then he is not in breach of any rules. Staff members have already answered this in the past. Hiding if you are against an overwhelming opposition is a valid tactic and in the case of conquest can even mean a loss for the team with 10 mechs left if they are out-capped by the last opponent.

Try explaining that simple logic to guys with the intellect and maturity of an 8 year old spoiled brat....

...its a concept beyond their mental capacity.

[Belazaar]

It wouldn't be a problem if they would just free up the mech and/or modules.

[MechWarrior3671771]

Stormyblade: "Boy, you certainly have a book full of excuses ready for when someone might accuse you of being AFK or not playing, don't you?"

Learn to read - I was explaining how I could miss your all-important demands typed in chat, not AFK or DC.

And again, you are assuming someone is AFK/DC simply because they don't want to talk to you.

Do you get that a lot? I bet you do.


"but maybe you could spend some time working on your computer so it's not infected with malware and update all your drivers?"

Oh yay! Even more ignorant assumptions. Its not malware, its the "warning - blocked" popup I get when my anti-malware program detects something. I have to minimize MWO to close the pop-up. Last PGI patch has fixed that. I'm also trying to configure & deconflict 3 diff controllers to see which one I want to go with permanently. So telling me to update my drivers is ignorant and useless advice.

Regardless of any of that, its not your place to "rule" on whether my lack of response to your demands in chat warrants calling out my position and committing Team Treason. Please get over yourself.

Edited by Fenrisulvyn, 08 March 2015 - 10:33 AM.

[MechWarrior3671771]

Bottom line (again, after 35 pages of this)

If you think someome is shutdown and hiding, for whatever reason, report them after the match ends.

Committing Team Treason during the match is against the rules.

You can't advocate following the rules while breaking said rules because you *assume* you know what the pilot is up to.

[MechWarrior3671771]

Joseph: " I can assume what I want to. If I am wrong the aggrieved can then turn me in to PGI. Thats how it works."

Shorter Joseph: I like to pretend the other guy is cheating so I can justify cheating.

That's NOT how it works.

[Mad Strike]

bump

[Mystere]

Belazaar, on 08 March 2015 - 09:58 AM, said:

It wouldn't be a problem if they would just free up the mech and/or modules.

There is one reason Mechs are locked: suicide farming on 1 Mech.

[Corbenik]

Well wouldn't it be easier if you are last man standing are are going to "ambush" by powering down typing in chat while you are powering down "Hey team ima try to ambush them so don't let anyone know my position because i am trying to fight with a chance at least" at least then if someone does give your position away you can see who the real douche is and you wont be liable because you said something. honestly that is better than trying to mind read whos being a time waster and whos really trying to use tactics.