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[Kjudoon]

Okay, I think I'm throughly sick of the cry to spoonfeed people MWO.

Cowboy up.

[Joseph Mallan]

Rossario x Vampire, on 06 February 2015 - 05:56 AM, said:

LoL Josie... I did on "basic" SC more than most on "mastered". To "master" as a bare verb ralating to mech I mean unlocking "Master". To "master" as a skill driving the mech... shame we ain't got forum bage for a "Death Star" achivement.

my point still stands, you put in the time on the 3 Chassis (a point a still grumble about). to Unlock "master" It does suck that I have to be elite in 2 Chassis I will likely never use again once I am "mastered" in teh chassis I wanted.

I don't have to be a Elite Shot with a M-16 A1 to be an Expert with an M-16A4!

[The Wakelord]

Ascaloth, on 04 February 2015 - 07:33 AM, said:

Losing PUG games against premades is unbearable? Group up with some friends (it's even possible to make some in game).

Can't stand against clanners? Sell your IS mechs and buy some Clans to stomp around.

Just. Stop. Whining.

[redacted]

This is what you (and many others of similar ilk) are saying:
"Get out contrary opinions! I only want 5 people to play CW, I love ghost drops and waiting for 15 minutes at a time!"

Edited by GM Patience, 12 February 2015 - 06:25 PM.
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[jackal40]

Joseph Mallan, on 06 February 2015 - 06:04 AM, said:

my point still stands, you put in the time on the 3 Chassis (a point a still grumble about). to Unlock "master" It does suck that I have to be elite in 2 Chassis I will likely never use again once I am "mastered" in teh chassis I wanted.

I don't have to be a Elite Shot with a M-16 A1 to be an Expert with an M-16A4!

I equate this to having to Master Windows 95, 98, and XP just to be able to use Windows 10. It really makes no sense to master 3 (or more) chassis just to play the one you like.

I only basiced the Clan chassis I intend to play - purchasing all three to master is so expensive I can't justify it. The extra module slots are the only real reason to go beyond the basic level.

I call it a flawed design.

[Revis Volek]

The Wakelord, on 06 February 2015 - 06:14 AM, said:

Why are you so dumb?

This is what you (and many others of similar ilk) are saying:
"Get out contrary opinions! I only want 5 people to play CW, I love ghost drops and waiting for 15 minutes at a time!"

What are you a 12 year old?

No, we are explaining to you that there are 3 other modes for those who dont want to get rolfstomped or are to igrnorant to group up. If you dont wanna group up for a game mode that kinda requires it then go play PUBLIC modes. They have 3 modes there for you and the other solo guys...please stop trying to make the whole game into a low skill friendly game.

You understand that the 12's WANT a challenge....we WANT organized groups to fight us, we WANT to face the best 12 pilots you have to offer....this is why we say GROUP UP. Not because we have contrary opinions we are trying to explain to you how to win.

PGI seems to have a contrary opinion as well since Russ has stated a few times that "CW is no place for SOLO and Casuals looking to grind mechs and cbills" Why not take someones advice for once and get off that cloud of judgement.

[Weeny Machine]

DarthRevis, on 06 February 2015 - 09:38 AM, said:

What are you a 12 year old?

No, we are explaining to you that there are 3 other modes for those who dont want to get rolfstomped or are to igrnorant to group up.

You understand that the 12's WANT a challenge....we WANT organized groups to fight us, we WANT to face the best 12 pilots you have to offer....this is why we say GROUP UP. Not because we have contrary opinions we are trying to explain to you how to win.

PGI seems to have a contrary opinion as well since Russ has stated a few times that "CW is no place for SOLO and Casuals looking to grind mechs and cbills" Why not take someones advice for once and get off that cloud of judgement.

Personally I stay away from CW because of my time schedule (which means I need to PuG). I have no problem with that.However, some things are amusing when I follow this discussion and read other threads:1.  "Group up or stay out. This is for the elites!!111" and in other threads "Bwaaah got to wait 30 min to get a CW game going". Oh well, haven't you realized that like in nearly every other online game the "casuals" are the majority? ;2. I still don't see how a seperat PuG queue for CW would be a tragedy /shrug3. Do you honestly think that the CW mode will get further / much resources when only a low percetage of players plays it at all? Do you really think it is good if "casuals" get roflstomped go back to the normal mode and get bored and eventually leave? Bear in mind that the playerbase isn't huge.Sorry. my format was killed by editting the post /sigh

Edited by Bush Hopper, 06 February 2015 - 10:05 AM.

[ollo]

Xmith, on 04 February 2015 - 04:58 PM, said:

That's small compared to the number of total players dropping at any given time.

http://imgur.com/5Quin0c

Hell, our "group" is 2 people and even we popped up in one game together without knowing the other was online. Randomness is a *****, as all roulette addicts will be able to tell you... 5 times red in row, the next one MUST be black!

[Taemien]

Flaming oblivion, on 05 February 2015 - 07:26 PM, said:

@ taemien

I know you were trolling.

But thanks for reaffirming why the devs will NEVER put groups back in solo again.

Unfortunately for you, I wasn't trolling. But you can think I was if it makes you feel better.

[FindersWeepers]

Can we please discuss the issue, and not resort to Ad Homina please?

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

oldradagast, on 06 February 2015 - 04:25 AM, said:

Can anyone tell me with a straight face how throwing PUG's, casuals, and so forth into a meat grinder is good for the game?

They did the same thing with the 12 man community warfare stuff before CW was actually out, you were expected to facegrind for a month or so of getting your ass handed to you and then youd like it. The funny thing there is what happened to that? It died out due to noone wanting to play like that

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Sep, on 06 February 2015 - 01:13 PM, said:

Can we please discuss the issue, and not resort to Ad Homina please?

My guess is no even though theyre breaking the forum rules and will likely get this thread locked for it

Pyrrhic victory is still a victory right guys?

[Richter Kerensky]

What meaningful discussion can arise from "I got stomped by an organized group of players who have been playing longer than me!!!! This game sucks!!!!!"? The game already tries to match groups with groups, splitting the queues between group and solo would likely raise the waiting times to unbearable levels and the game prevents 11 mans to prevent people stacking abuse on their solo pub. You also have an artificially low ELO for your first 25 matches to be nicer to new players. What more can even be done here?

[Weeny Machine]

Richter B., on 06 February 2015 - 03:06 PM, said:

What meaningful discussion can arise from "I got stomped by an organized group of players who have been playing longer than me!!!! This game sucks!!!!!"?  The game already tries to match groups with groups, splitting the queues between group and solo would likely raise the waiting times to unbearable levels and the game prevents 11 mans to prevent people stacking abuse on their solo pub.  You also have an artificially low ELO for your first 25 matches to be nicer to new players.  What more can even be done here?

That why it was said that there should be 2 queues: PuGs and Premades.As I said before: you cannot have it all: low waiting time, a mode which is widely accepted AND premades.

[Richter Kerensky]

I don't think MWO has enough players to make splitting the queues an acceptable option, like I said.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Richter B., on 06 February 2015 - 03:43 PM, said:

I don't think MWO has enough players to make splitting the queues an acceptable option, like I said.

Hell PGI said they didnt want to do that way back in the 3pv thread

[FindersWeepers]

I think that two mans should be in solo queue

[Inferno86]

I have not read all the answers even if much of it, but imagine that open mixed responses like what I've seen, I wanted to say I'm fed up with the piece of shame that is CW

programmers really are idiots, or **** like pugs, or feeding premades with fresh meat, I played a lot of games today and lost ALL, ALL TRODDEN, causing me great discomfort, DISTRESS AND ANXIETY

TODAY I HAVE LOST ALL THE GAMES, THE OTHER DAY ONE IN CATTLE 10, 10% MAXIMUM

A GENIE PREMADES SAY TO MAKE ONLY 3 PEOPLE KNOW THAT PLAY THIS AND DO NOT WANT TO HAVE TO DEPEND ON OTHERS FOR POWER PLAY CW

pugs if there is not to be matched against premade, would have to be matched against other pugs, which is the point seriously, that game after game to play full pugs show up against full premades with my team destroyed and humiliated

allow only join if you get into fair play, if not eliminate you can enter only CW, I see lots of pugs, .. let my teams always, because they can not play against other pugs ??

ye scoundrels and about without shame pushing us to play CW rewards with that amount of imbalance and foul play, have a look at the screenshot, in some developing a game in several screen shown

ALL my games are like that, every time I go see 1 minute in this lost just seeing the teams, this is perfectly avoidable am no idiot,

Today there were many people playing and went exactly as when Abia little, they put full pugs against full premades on purpose and it's a dirty trick, stop ******* players


http://imgur.com/jCZ...VLXnOef,9Wi5aHW

[Kjudoon]

Sep, on 06 February 2015 - 09:23 PM, said:

I think that two mans should be in solo queue

Now we gotta start this all over again. Do you even care about the pain other people went through? Do you????

Edited by Kjudoon, 07 February 2015 - 05:33 PM.

[Weeny Machine]

Richter B., on 06 February 2015 - 03:43 PM, said:

I don't think MWO has enough players to make splitting the queues an acceptable option, like I said.

Basically you already have that. I dare to say the majority of the "casuals" isn't doing any CW matches after being steamrolled a few time.

[Ghogiel]

Bush Hopper, on 08 February 2015 - 02:42 AM, said:

Basically you already have that. I dare to say the majority of the "casuals" isn't doing any CW matches after being steamrolled a few time.

There seems to be a constant supply of them that premades will steamroll.

What I have noticed is premades are usually on attack and PUGs seem to be drawn to defending planets.