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#101 Noesis

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 06:30 AM

View PostKuroNyra, on 08 February 2015 - 06:14 AM, said:

A clan issuing a Batchall and declaring like Clan Wolf have done can in no way be considered has a Dezgra behavior.
Jade Falcons know our intention and welcome the challenge like true warriors.

The Batchall has been made, bargainned well and done.
The Way of the Clan is followed and the Zellbrigen is respected.

Can you say the same? Bandit?
I don't think so, but it is not a surprise since you are just a Dezgra, all your words are like mosquitos attacking the invincible and unstoppable power of the Ghost Bear, the Jade Falcon, the Smoke Jaguar, and the Wolf.

You can keep crying like the Bandit you are, true Warriors are talking. You are not worthy of my time anymore, or the time of any true Clan Warrior.

Even a Spheroid Barbarian got more honor than you do. :P


But these are labels that you place onto the Dark Born.

The very fact that I said "if" you didn't follow the traditions of the Clan ways was as a result of recongnising that you are not fully being supporting of a trial of possession as was mentioned to do with planets. Otherwise you would have ceded planets as a result of the failed attempts surely. So you are not following the batchall ways.

Yes you are being courteous to CJF by declaring your intentions but you are also not allowing them to respond to that declaration as per the process of trials either.

So in essence you are not fully following the Batchall process as per how you define your own rules. Whether or not if the Dark Born do not follow these processes does not change the fact of how you are treating them.

Also please show one act of Banditry that the Dark Born have shown as part of military activities. Then compare that with perhaps the number of transgressions show by Clan Wolf, like forming a NAP with Stenier against other Clan interests or GK representing Kurita. Numerous calls for Clan to attack other Clans in posts and yet not declaring these as trials or giving them the full honour they perhaps deserve. These then actual fruits or actions that could be measured outside of your own speculation and assumption about our group. Yet there are facts to support Dezgra behaviour by Clan Wolf as above, and also the fact that you don't always declare these intentions or have fully done so in the past anyhow.

You have a history of wanting to insult our group and demonstrate this prejudice and yet having no real evidence of transgressions to back this up. We have then taken your aggrevations and prejudice to task as a need to defend our interests and to educate the error of making these assumptions and fallacies which has been an ongoing campaign even before the start of Operation Revival. Something we have had to endure to a point where it is no longer funny and as such will now continue to defend our position and show the very real nature of Clan Wolf with their inaccuracies and use of fallacy as ongoing attempts to undermine others without acceptable cause to do so.

Edited by Noesis, 08 February 2015 - 06:33 AM.


#102 Ripper X

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 06:35 AM

View PostBrusana, on 08 February 2015 - 06:28 AM, said:


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I have no idea what that is suppose to mean

#103 Brusana

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 06:38 AM

View PostRipper X, on 08 February 2015 - 06:35 AM, said:


I have no idea what that is suppose to mean


It means your theory is crap because it is highly unlikely that there is a conspiracy to prevent Wolves from getting a corridor and much more likely that the pugs just stomped you.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 06:41 AM

View PostRipper X, on 08 February 2015 - 06:22 AM, said:

BTW I have noticed a lot of Jade Falcons with no unit tags defending and attacking along Wolf borders past few days. Very skilled and appeared to be very organized as well for 'random' pugs. What looks to be pugs, plays like an organized team or at least part of a team. I might be thinking that some people might be playing alt accounts to stop us from getting to the Inner Sphere.



Jade Falcon as a whole, as one of the smallest factions (save for pre-merc CSJ), has consistently made an effort to train and offer pugs our clan Teamspeak to their use at will. JFP, Lords, Kcom and RJF have actively attempted to teach them the ways to fight and win.

As such, I think you will find many Jade Falcon pug drops and groups as more actively organized than many other factions.

Edited by Wingbreaker, 08 February 2015 - 06:42 AM.


#105 Ripper X

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 06:43 AM

View PostBrusana, on 08 February 2015 - 06:38 AM, said:


It means your theory is crap because it is highly unlikely that there is a conspiracy to prevent Wolves from getting a corridor and much more likely that the pugs just stomped you.


I know a highly organized team when I see one. It was not an entire team but part of the team. They did not fight like pugs at all. I am in a competitive unit and I know when I am fighting against other competitive units.

Edited by Ripper X, 08 February 2015 - 06:43 AM.


#106 jeirhart

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 06:45 AM

Show me a screenshot of these pugs beating your organized twelve man so that I may see who you think is on an alt just to defend against Clan Wolf.

Also so I can laugh at Wolves being defeated by random solo players.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 06:46 AM

View PostRipper X, on 08 February 2015 - 06:43 AM, said:


I know a highly organized team when I see one. It was not an entire team but part of the team. They did not fight like pugs at all. I am in a competitive unit and I know when I am fighting against other competitive units.



I highly doubt it was the case, but as an addition, we do maintain a cadet training corps. They do not earn their tags until they pass ToP, so you may have fought them, though JFP didn't field more than a 6 man all night to my knowledge.

#108 Ripper X

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 06:46 AM

View PostWingbreaker, on 08 February 2015 - 06:41 AM, said:



Jade Falcon as a whole, as one of the smallest factions (save for pre-merc CSJ), has consistently made an effort to train and offer pugs our clan Teamspeak to their use at will. JFP, Lords, Kcom and RJF have actively attempted to teach them the ways to fight and win.

As such, I think you will find many Jade Falcon pug drops and groups as more actively organized than many other factions.


Normally I would agree with you. But when a number of tagless players who create accounts nearly at the same time and never posted anything and their accounts all look like clones of one another. Makes one wonder. Also it is a well known fact that many competitive players have alt accounts.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 06:51 AM

View PostRipper X, on 08 February 2015 - 06:46 AM, said:


Normally I would agree with you. But when a number of tagless players who create accounts nearly at the same time and never posted anything and their accounts all look like clones of one another. Makes one wonder. Also it is a well known fact that many competitive players have alt accounts.


I've had this account for 2-3 years now and have only recently been active on the MWO forums. Not everyone visits the forums.

Edited by Brusana, 08 February 2015 - 06:51 AM.


#110 Ripper X

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 06:52 AM

View Postjeirhart, on 08 February 2015 - 06:45 AM, said:

Show me a screenshot of these pugs beating your organized twelve man so that I may see who you think is on an alt just to defend against Clan Wolf.

Also so I can laugh at Wolves being defeated by random solo players.

We were not a full 12. More like 8. I do not have a screenshot though. Never even thought about it. If I see it again I will take one. Jeirhart I am in GK. You know what it feels like to play against other Comp teams and comp players. Seriously some of those tagless guys felt like comp players to me. Now I am not saying anything against JF, it is just something has been going on behind the scenes lately in the clans. Something is not feeling right.

#111 Tsig

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 06:55 AM

View PostRipper X, on 08 February 2015 - 06:46 AM, said:


Normally I would agree with you. But when a number of tagless players who create accounts nearly at the same time and never posted anything and their accounts all look like clones of one another. Makes one wonder. Also it is a well known fact that many competitive players have alt accounts.


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#112 jeirhart

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 06:56 AM

View PostRipper X, on 08 February 2015 - 06:52 AM, said:

We were not a full 12. More like 8. I do not have a screenshot though. Never even thought about it. If I see it again I will take one. Jeirhart I am in GK. You know what it feels like to play against other Comp teams and comp players. Seriously some of those tagless guys felt like comp players to me. Now I am not saying anything against JF, it is just something has been going on behind the scenes lately in the clans. Something is not feeling right.


Then definitely take a screenshot next time. I have been in Clan Jade Falcon from the very beginning and I will recognize those among us who perform well and those brand new will stick out.

#113 Brusana

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 06:59 AM

Tsig's image is superior to mine in every single way.

View Postjeirhart, on 08 February 2015 - 06:56 AM, said:


Then definitely take a screenshot next time. I have been in Clan Jade Falcon from the very beginning and I will recognize those among us who perform well and those brand new will stick out.


Really Jeirhart you know EVERYONE? I love you man, but this guy is just being paranoid.

#114 Ripper X

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 07:00 AM

View PostTsig, on 08 February 2015 - 06:55 AM, said:


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I am not the conspiracy type at all. Just things haven't felt right for awhile. Hearing alot of things about backroom dealings and such. With the gifting system in place it would be very easy to pay for services to Mercs.

View PostBrusana, on 08 February 2015 - 06:59 AM, said:

Tsig's image is superior to mine in every single way.



Really Jeirhart you know EVERYONE? I love you man, but this guy is just being paranoid.


Btw it was not just myself that got this feeling we were up against comp players. I am just the only one vocal about it.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 07:06 AM

Just to clarify as a leader of Jade Falcon Prime and with contact with RJF, KCom, and Lords (the biggest CJF units), that the behavior you have described is beneath us and that we have absolutely zero interest in pulling garbage like that.

If anything like what you are describing is true, we do not support it.

If you would be so kind as to provide screenshots of any future battles in which you feel something is amiss, I would appreciate it.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 07:09 AM

View Postjeirhart, on 08 February 2015 - 07:06 AM, said:

Just to clarify as a leader of Jade Falcon Prime and with contact with RJF, KCom, and Lords (the biggest CJF units), that the behavior you have described is beneath us and that we have absolutely zero interest in pulling garbage like that.

If anything like what you are describing is true, we do not support it.

If you would be so kind as to provide screenshots of any future battles in which you feel something is amiss, I would appreciate it.


Like I said this is not on Jade Falcon. I think there is some other outside influence going on. I will take those screenshots for you when I see them again.

#117 Seth

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:35 AM

I think you might be overestimating our desire to hold our territory. I don't think people on new accounts running around in trial Mechs would even be that effective.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:41 AM

Does one of you want some popcorn?
I must say that this debate about Alt Accound is pretty hilarious.
Treat Pugs like Competitive guys. Problem solved.

The greater the challenge, the better it is. And if some guy come so low do use that kind of stuff to stop us, we can laught and see how we are feared!
Hopefully, Jades Falcons are not all like that.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:14 AM

View PostRipper X, on 08 February 2015 - 06:46 AM, said:

Normally I would agree with you. But when a number of tagless players who create accounts nearly at the same time and never posted anything and their accounts all look like clones of one another. Makes one wonder. Also it is a well known fact that many competitive players have alt accounts.


you mean they were also on trial mech?

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:39 AM

View PostLily from animove, on 08 February 2015 - 02:20 AM, said:


strange as MS was in GB they got also beaten to trash, lol. Now you fled trying to cover the loss as a result of your absence.

really i dont remember loseing many games or planets in the mercstar timezone.





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