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#361 Roadbeer

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:12 PM

View PostValar13, on 08 February 2015 - 07:58 PM, said:

Why is Kurita asking for help retaking the world MS is taking from them while dogpiling another Davion world?

That's the **** that keeps me up at night.

#362 MischiefSC

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:34 PM

View PostRoadbeer, on 08 February 2015 - 08:12 PM, said:

That's the **** that keeps me up at night.


We all know Kurita is a gestalt and it's all part of a single cunning plan.

And full of HAX.

That's just how they roll.

#363 Vandril

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:39 PM

So the question is - which unit is dogpiling on Dav? Isn't this part of the consequences we should be doing with the nSL? I'm being serious, not trolling. Because this is EXACTLY the behavior we are supposed to sort out.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:14 PM

The DCMS High Council is currently debating and voting on whether or not to join the Star League. When a decision is reached I will inform the relevant parties. As was mentioned previous to and during the meeting, DCMS Ambassadors would bring the information to the High Council, not make any blanket decisions at the time. Until the vote is finalized we will continue with both our current ceasefires and offensive strategies. There will be an answer within 48 hours. Thank you.

Edited by Lord Ikka, 08 February 2015 - 09:14 PM.


#365 Joe Decker

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:22 PM

View PostLord Ikka, on 08 February 2015 - 09:14 PM, said:

The DCMS High Council is currently debating and voting on whether or not to join the Star League. When a decision is reached I will inform the relevant parties. As was mentioned previous to and during the meeting, DCMS Ambassadors would bring the information to the High Council, not make any blanket decisions at the time. Until the vote is finalized we will continue with both our current ceasefires and offensive strategies. There will be an answer within 48 hours. Thank you.


I hope you Guys decide to focus Clans only in the near Future. Then you keep my Sword, AXE and Bow ^_^

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:23 PM

View PostLordSkyKnight, on 08 February 2015 - 03:57 PM, said:


So if you control the great majority of the competent to high end players, who are you fighting against? Get your story straight bud. Also how is another group of good players in ANY way limiting you from getting good competitive matches?


I finally figured it out. My apologies, I didn't articulate myself well. I meant to say the majority of players within MS are competent to comp level players, not the game overall.

As for the limitations of the matches, I don't want to belabor the point. If some groups aren't allowed to defend, or attack certain worlds due to Star League policy, both us and those other groups won't be able to fight. That's a loss for everybody I feel.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:23 PM

View PostRoadbeer, on 08 February 2015 - 08:12 PM, said:

That's the **** that keeps me up at night.


You are really into this, aren't you ? :)

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:29 PM

View PostJoe Decker, on 08 February 2015 - 09:23 PM, said:


You are really into this, aren't you ? :)


Roadbeer doesn't **** around, son.

#369 Roadbeer

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:30 PM

View PostJoe Decker, on 08 February 2015 - 09:23 PM, said:


You are really into this, aren't you ? :)

By this, I mean societies general desire to keep feeding money into the dickpunching machine

#370 bobF

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:38 PM

View PostRoadbeer, on 08 February 2015 - 09:30 PM, said:

By this, I mean societies general desire to keep feeding money into the dickpunching machine


Exactly why a transhuman cashless meritocracy based on honorable warrior culture beats primitive corporate fuedalism every time.

I'm jus sayin.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:41 PM

View PostbobF, on 08 February 2015 - 09:38 PM, said:


Exactly why a transhuman cashless meritocracy based on honorable warrior culture beats primitive corporate fuedalism every time.

I'm jus sayin.


Seyla. But it seems right now the clans aren't really going anywhere but backward.

#372 Roadbeer

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:50 PM

View PostbobF, on 08 February 2015 - 09:38 PM, said:


Exactly why a transhuman cashless meritocracy based on honorable warrior culture beats primitive corporate fuedalism every time.

I'm jus sayin.



#373 MischiefSC

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:52 PM

View PostLord Ikka, on 08 February 2015 - 09:14 PM, said:

The DCMS High Council is currently debating and voting on whether or not to join the Star League. When a decision is reached I will inform the relevant parties. As was mentioned previous to and during the meeting, DCMS Ambassadors would bring the information to the High Council, not make any blanket decisions at the time. Until the vote is finalized we will continue with both our current ceasefires and offensive strategies. There will be an answer within 48 hours. Thank you.


You know, given the nature of CW and factions it's not unreasonable to say that some factions may not be 'all in' but still have units in them that are willing to dedicate their efforts to the nSL. It would be better to have 1/2 a faction or even 1/4 a faction than none. Besides, if the nSL is doing what it *should* be doing they will lead by example and hopefully that will lead other members of their faction to the same place.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:57 PM

View PostVandril, on 08 February 2015 - 08:39 PM, said:

So the question is - which unit is dogpiling on Dav? Isn't this part of the consequences we should be doing with the nSL? I'm being serious, not trolling. Because this is EXACTLY the behavior we are supposed to sort out.


I've said it before and will say it again -

CW is a marathon, not a sprint. You want to coordinate hundreds of people it takes days and weeks, maybe even months. A lot of leading by example. There are few carrots and few sticks in CW, the best of which is simply being worth admiring or behaving admirably.

I sincerely appreciate you asking that and if there's concerns on the Liao side that unit members who are involved in nSL are dropping against Davion please shoot one of us a message, we can drop there or ask someone who did and get you the info.

Sometimes it's just pugs and, well, pugs gonna pug. Sometimes it's bored or defiant unit members. Often it's both.

In the end though the nSL will succeed or fail based on leading by example and being worth respecting and emulating. Bads gonna bad; question is, are not-bads gonna see the value in being something more than a don'tcare pugfiller in pugqueue CW?

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:58 PM

View PostMischiefSC, on 08 February 2015 - 09:52 PM, said:


You know, given the nature of CW and factions it's not unreasonable to say that some factions may not be 'all in' but still have units in them that are willing to dedicate their efforts to the nSL. It would be better to have 1/2 a faction or even 1/4 a faction than none. Besides, if the nSL is doing what it *should* be doing they will lead by example and hopefully that will lead other members of their faction to the same place.


The DCMS acts as one, it's kept us together when the rest of the game was attacking us and will keep us together the next time it happens.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 10:20 PM

Let me make a few points before I sleep here after reading this thread.
Disclaimer: I like to play this game to have fun with people who are competent and that I enjoy being around. Do I aim and let loose at dumb/disrespectful people on the forums? Yeah I do and sorry if that makes certain individuals doubt the legitimacy of what I will say here...

1) This is a game, and MS does not control how CW works any more than any other unit.

2) This is still beta

3) The hardcore RPers in all factions are making cohesion between units in the same factions near impossible if people haven't noticed nevermind between IS and other IS or Clan and other Clan. This is not table top and it never will be get over it lore junkies and drop your stupid RP egos.

4) MS has been more than willing to help out IS and Clans as we do not play specifically either, we go where we see best fit based on various criteria and because our players enjoy playing both factions so that half our mechs are not constantly sitting around idle.

5) The talk on MS ts is 90% bsing banter when not communicating comms for battle, the other 10% is where to attack next or whatnot, not things like"OH HO HO WHERE CAN WE GET ALL THE PLANETZ!" Actually most of it is hybrid being grumpy :D

6) I am willing to bet that MS leadership is constantly in contact with more unit/faction leaders than most if not any other units other than the other large merc unit CI. Why because we are willing to work with people.

7) It is funny how many people get irritated by a group being successful, we are doing nothing outside of what the game lets us do and certainly nothing against the TOS. We don't make decisions to have things easy, we like a challenge and there are many units from all factions that can attest to that.

8) My understanding regarding this situation of this star league is that MS is more than willing to help out and work with whatever agreements are binding the IS or Clan factions HOWEVER for some reason were seen as a threat because people know full well that if we decide to focus on a faction if provoked we would do what we did to wolf, or that we swap around from faction to faction as we see fit.

If you talk to any of our leaders on the diplomatic fronts Im sure you will find them to be more than level headed and reasonable people as long as the whole *Putting on my cloak and wizard hat* is left on the sidelines. Asking to have some input things on an equal playing field as the "7th unit" or whatnot that is outlined I don't think is unreasonable especially when it has nothing to do with being the "omnipotent rulers" of anything.


Just my two cents.

Edited by Necromantion, 08 February 2015 - 10:27 PM.


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Posted 08 February 2015 - 10:36 PM

This thread is amusing. Literally who died and made Mariks (who have never been on the clan front) king? Or Kurita and their 'retreat into Davion from the SJ even when Davion are defending us'.......Kurita doesn't even deserve a vote here from their total cowardice.

Steiner has been the only house defending against the clans since day 1. SRoT and DG (over 80 people combined simultaneous offensive) took a CGB planet last night just us. Meanwhile, Kurita ghost capped 2 worlds AFTER the 'ceasefire' while we were attacking the CGB. Obviously Kuritans 'retreat' in more than one direction.

Kurita literally broke the ceasefire in the first attack window. Just a fact.

Steiner units will be more productive retaking lost planets from the cowards that ghost drop us while we defended the north. Steiner has lost more planets from ghost dropping sissy IS houses than to the clans...which we pushed back into their own space once already.

As far as MS is concerned....shoot me off a PM on your next Kuritan offensive:) You were Steiner in the past and we wouldn't mind a 2nd tour of duty anytime. Steiner are used to merc groups doing their thing for the pay/glory.

Edited by Murzao, 08 February 2015 - 10:40 PM.


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Posted 08 February 2015 - 10:48 PM

View PostMurzao, on 08 February 2015 - 10:36 PM, said:

This thread is amusing. Literally who died and made Mariks (who have never been on the clan front) king? Or Kurita and their 'retreat into Davion from the SJ even when Davion are defending us'.......Kurita doesn't even deserve a vote here from their total cowardice.

Steiner has been the only house defending against the clans since day 1. SRoT and DG (over 80 people combined simultaneous offensive) took a CGB planet last night just us. Meanwhile, Kurita ghost capped 2 worlds AFTER the 'ceasefire' while we were attacking the CGB. Obviously Kuritans 'retreat' in more than one direction.

Kurita literally broke the ceasefire in the first attack window. Just a fact.

Steiner units will be more productive retaking lost planets from the cowards that ghost drop us while we defended the north. Steiner has lost more planets from ghost dropping sissy IS houses than to the clans...which we pushed back into their own space once already.

As far as MS is concerned....shoot me off a PM on your next Kuritan offensive:) You were Steiner in the past and we wouldn't mind a 2nd tour of duty anytime. Steiner are used to merc groups doing their thing for the pay/glory.

Just because Marik has never been on *your* border with the Clans, doesn't mean we/they haven't been on the Clan borders slugging it out with test-tube babies.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 10:57 PM

View Postdervishx5, on 08 February 2015 - 09:41 PM, said:


Seyla. But it seems right now the clans aren't really going anywhere but backward.


but your attacking kurita as we speak

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 11:01 PM

View PostMurzao, on 08 February 2015 - 10:36 PM, said:


As far as MS is concerned....shoot me off a PM on your next Kuritan offensive:) You were Steiner in the past and we wouldn't mind a 2nd tour of duty anytime. Steiner are used to merc groups doing their thing for the pay/glory.


as far as i know we will not to back Steiner for 4 to 5 weeks and that's a maybe, we like to play with factions that like to drop with us, and our last tour of Steiner there was no one to have fun with and it was just us.





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