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[Maxwell Albritten]

Thorn Hallis, on 10 February 2015 - 08:08 AM, said:

Neither more or nor less broken then Marik making contact with its own borders.

Look, I'm not against re-taking capellan planets from Davion. I'm against calling capellan citizens "untrue" that help a potential ally, especially one that allready helped the capellan cause.

But nobody is against it. No one anywhere. What everyone is against is ignoring our borders and letting Davion regroup for no reason. In fact, that's been the standing order for weeks. The only thing that has changed is that suddenly a few guys have decided for all of us that we can't do that now for some reason without being BFF with Davions.

If we are so concerned about the clans we should all get in queue, take the Dav planet, then all get in the combine or FRR defense lines.

Edited by Maxwell Albritten, 10 February 2015 - 10:11 AM.

[Zvolimir the Blackhand]

What's funny is that you keep calling us Davion sympathizers.

This has nothing to do with them, and everything to do with the Confederation.

Keep your mindless hate flowing though. We have already figured out how to harness it.

[An Anime Princess]

Maxwell Albritten, on 10 February 2015 - 10:07 AM, said:

But nobody is against it. No one anywhere. What everyone is against is ignoring our borders and letting Davion regroup for no reason. In fact, that's been the standing order for weeks. The only thing that has changed is that suddenly a few guys have decided for all of us that we can't do that now for some reason without being BFF with Davions.

If we are so concerned about the clans we should all get in queue, take the Dav planet, then all get in the combine or FRR defense lines.

Do not waver, friend. The DCMS knows that House Liao will remain strong in the face of the Davion threat, and will crush them underfoot because their pilots are terrible and their mercs have left them. Dear Co-ordinator reminds you that Davion sympathizers are likely traitors. Arigatou gozaimasu~.

[Zvolimir the Blackhand]

An Anime Princess, on 10 February 2015 - 01:29 PM, said:

Dear Co-ordinator reminds you that Davion sympathizers are likely traitors.

Maskirovka reminds you that anyone not on a permanent LIAO contract giving you advice are probably the wrong ones to take advice from. This Kurita agitator is a perfect example.

I would like to make everyone happy, but that's not going to happen with the amount of haters on this forum in general so we're just going to go with the guys that are already signed on. No harm, no foul. And don't worry - if Davion attacks, we'll be right there to push them back.

That said, we are presently in talks with Davion units regarding the relinquishment of the Capitol worlds.

We might organize some sort of an event to turn a lot of them over.

Would you guys feel like you were being represented if you could:

A) Drop against Davion units in an semi-organized way so that both sides would enjoy quick drop times, rather than 40 minute wait snorefests? Or would you rather Davion units withdraw and allow the worlds to be taken by ghost drops?

B ) Regain the Capitol worlds quicker than current queues allow?

Look guys, I'm trying...help me out.

Edited by Zvolimir the Blackhand, 10 February 2015 - 02:09 PM.

[_____]

I mean if the Davs give back Capella, hopefully that means something to you guys. Diplomacy is also a weapon you know.

[Vassago Rain]

BlackhawkSC, on 10 February 2015 - 02:37 PM, said:

I mean if the Davs give back Capella, hopefully that means something to you guys. Diplomacy is also a weapon you know.

A pity gift is worth less than nothing compared to reclaiming it with your own green sword, especially when you're the one holding the military advantage through strong, hotblooded alliance with purple birds and mortal kombat dragons.



Gatekeepers are above fedrat scum dishonorable 'diplomacy' tactics.

[Richter Kerensky]

Can't believe have to suggest this to Liao, but maybe you take back Capella yourself?

[Grynos]

Ok so here is the reality of it.

1. Southern IS loyalist units , have little to nothing to say how the Northern IS loyalist units should handle the clans. Unless you decide you are going to join one of those northern houses it matters very little.. The only thing that a southern loyalist unit can do is defend. That means providing a stalemate and nothing more. At that point it is up to the northern houses to attack only, and in return they would have to trust that the southern houses could actually successfully defend against the clans.

2. If this Star League does go off.. How long do you think the queue times will be then????? Even with great organization , it is not going to change the fact , that if the clans decide to not attack and just defend , then a lot of time is spent wasted. What happens then?

3. Merc units , while not loyalists , are the deciding factor in most cases of CW outcomes. There are exceptions to this, Shout out to TCAF, but in reality Liao would be in a dire situation if it were not for Merc units. To cast them off or trivialize them in any way is not only disrespectful but a sure way to make it so they never come back.. Liao more so than most any other faction ( perhaps FRR )needs Merc units to be willing to come back and even extend their stays if they so choose.

4. Negotiating for Liao Capitals back???? Really , the Liao I was part of fought tooth and nail for everything it lost. Fought even harder to get it back and now you want to ask the Davions if they could give Liao it's planets back. Wow, it' a good thing the chancellor has loyalists units like TCAF around as well as other units and individuals. Liao does not cave to idle promises from a known threat like Davion... Grow a spine.

Edited by Grynos, 10 February 2015 - 03:23 PM.

[Jerry Wargate]

Diplomacy is wasted on some of this rabble... Ive experienced this first hand on my different House delegation visits...
Rude, ignorant, and redundant are the three words that come to mind...
Your either on this ship or your left behind... its that easy... and also funny how everyone has something to say but so few were at the initial IS meetings...

its easy to get on com and blast garbage here... anyone can do that...

but to make a stand or a change requires guts and thought...

now please keep whining "Traitors" "Sympathizers" and being complete Space Ape foodoo.... Its what is expected of you...

[Zvolimir the Blackhand]

Vassago Rain, on 10 February 2015 - 02:48 PM, said:

A pity gift is worth less than nothing compared to reclaiming it with your own green sword, especially when you're the one holding the military advantage through strong, hotblooded alliance with purple birds and mortal kombat dragons.



Gatekeepers are above fedrat scum dishonorable 'diplomacy' tactics.

#1 I didn't ask them to turn them over wholesale, I was asking if that's what the other Liao wanted. I would like to organize some fights and "take back Capella ourselves"

#2 I like that picture. I'm confiscating it.

#3 Liao has the best "diplomacy" tactics - if you've ever read a book.

[Faith McCarron]

It's foolish to take anything off the board. I want good fights. I also want Liao planets, especially the prestige ones back. That means that if we can negotiate some kind of deal, we should listen. To just say "diplomacy is for poopy-heads" is silly. At the end of the day, what I want is a strong House Liao. If that means punching someone in the face, I'm for it. If it means a knife in the back, I'm for it. If it means drinks at the bar, I'm for it.

[Jerry Wargate]

Faith McCarron, on 10 February 2015 - 04:01 PM, said:

It's foolish to take anything off the board. I want good fights. I also want Liao planets, especially the prestige ones back. That means that if we can negotiate some kind of deal, we should listen. To just say "diplomacy is for poopy-heads" is silly. At the end of the day, what I want is a strong House Liao. If that means punching someone in the face, I'm for it. If it means a knife in the back, I'm for it. If it means drinks at the bar, I'm for it.

In complete agreement...

[_____]

Vassago Rain, on 10 February 2015 - 02:48 PM, said:

Shameful that Japanese meiji era art is used to imitate Liao. Check out the stuff Jerry Wargate has plastered all over the forums. Way funnier!

Edited by BlackhawkSC, 10 February 2015 - 04:45 PM.

[Malavai Fletcher]

Why would we want the planets just handed back to us?

When we can just walk in and take them.

Like we have been doing.

Thank goodness TCAF and GS are fighting for Liao.

[ArchangelKenko]

Malavai Fletcher, on 10 February 2015 - 05:17 PM, said:

Why would we want the planets just handed back to us?

When we can just walk in and take them.

Like we have been doing.

Thank goodness TCAF and GS are fighting for Liao.

Because warfare consists of a lot more than fighting if you're doing it right. Like a cunning Capellan.

[Vassago Rain]

ArchangelKenko, on 10 February 2015 - 06:35 PM, said:

Because warfare consists of a lot more than fighting if you're doing it right. Like a cunning Capellan.

MWO doesn't support such advanced features.

[ShinVector]

Malavai Fletcher, on 10 February 2015 - 05:17 PM, said:

Thank goodness TCAF and GS are fighting for Liao.

Hey... Don't forgot the Liao loyalist pugs and Liao Loyalist units that don't have a 12man. We helpful fillers.
Also don't forget the reinforcements provided by Merc Units like APOC.

Recently mostly Asian Merc units like SMLJ and 5SSP join Liao. Let see whether more 12mans can be started during oceanic time.

Edited by ShinVector, 10 February 2015 - 07:45 PM.

[WARCRACK]

I hesitate to jump into this debate as role playing is not my thing. But I do appreciate a game that is complex and competitive. I also like the novelty of a Space China. For now... where my friends are playing, I will be right there beside them with my unit on the field battling.

I just kind of figured if the Devs wanted to simulate the Battletech timeline for instance, they'd impose a peace (remove targets against each others houses) and create targets for all IS factions to attack or defend from the clans. I have every expectation the map will be reset in a half a year or sooner.

[Maxwell Albritten]

Once again, honorable and loyal Capellans and mercs in our employ are on track to liberate another world from the DavRats. Davion lapdogs within the Confederation have been reported to be weeping.

Edited by Maxwell Albritten, 10 February 2015 - 08:05 PM.

[WARCRACK]

I also do appreciate how all the units involved add flavor or color to this game. It really gives a player like me something worth sitting back to enjoy watching. Like a House of Cards in Space.